Men shouldn't get plastic surgery.

I have no problem with people getting a crooked nose fixed, a big nose shaved, teeth made nicer. Their money, their choices.
I think the difference is when they try to take 20 years off, and lips start looking fake, forehead alien like. I wonder how they can look in a mirror and think it looks good, when only their yes men would agree. The lip trend makes former cute women look trashy, or rough.
Years ago the facelifts the stars had I dont remember standing out so great, except they looked freshfaced. I dont remember any looking like wax dolls or aliens!
 
I have no problem with people getting a crooked nose fixed, a big nose shaved, teeth made nicer. Their money, their choices.
I think the difference is when they try to take 20 years off, and lips start looking fake, forehead alien like. I wonder how they can look in a mirror and think it looks good, when only their yes men would agree. The lip trend makes former cute women look trashy, or rough.
Years ago the facelifts the stars had I dont remember standing out so great, except they looked freshfaced. I dont remember any looking like wax dolls or aliens!

So you like good plastic surgery not bad plastic surgery?
 
Yep. I dont see the need for it mostly however, I like people ageing, I mean let the 30 year olds play 30 year olds. Bad plastic surgery makes me sad, and wonder how the surgeons can be proud of their work!
Also, I havnt seen Gary Shandling for years. He has the kind of face that looks a bit masklike to begin with. I dont know if I want to see that emphasised :eek:
 
You said no one should have plastic surgery solely to improve appearance.
Yes, I did. I should have been more clear. I meant that I didn't believe anyone who already has a natural appearance should have surgery solely to improve it. I can accept people with disfiguring injuries or congenital disorders having surgery to correct these defects. Sorry for misleading.
 
Aside from fifty-something lionking, I'm curious to know the ages of the men in this thread who agree with the OP.

May I suggest you might have a different opinion in ten, twenty or thirty years?
I'm forty, but I keep getting told that I don't look it. And I don't believe that barring some disfiguring injury I'd ever consider cosmetic surgery.

Actually, there is one cosmetic procedure I'd consider. There's a way to prevent sweating, by embedding alunimium ions into the pores. I'd have that done on the palms of my hands. It's not actually surgery, but it's a cosmetic procedure, and given how much my hands sweat, it's something I'd consider if I had the cash.
 
Yes, I did. I should have been more clear. I meant that I didn't believe anyone who already has a natural appearance should have surgery solely to improve it. I can accept people with disfiguring injuries or congenital disorders having surgery to correct these defects. Sorry for misleading.

And if the defect is say having no chin?
 
There are reconstruction techniques... but if something is inoperable, then obviously it is inoperable. Duh.

But chin implants are right out for just having a weak chin?

Plastic surgery can make people look a lot better and go unnoticed, provided they have the right problems for the surgery to fix.
 
But chin implants are right out for just having a weak chin?

Plastic surgery can make people look a lot better and go unnoticed, provided they have the right problems for the surgery to fix.
When there's a problem to be fixed, sure. But a woman with perfectly ordinary C-cups getting breast enlargement for no reason other than she thinks men go for big boobs? Unnecessary.
 
we dont need that, we are naturally beatiful :D

In fact, I've had plastic surgeons tell me that I should have some procedures done to make myself less gorgeous, because merely by appearing in public I was giving people crushing inferiority complexes. It's a burden, all this hotness. I can't even go to art museums because when I walk by the classical statuary, everyone says "these Greek gods look like crap compared to him!" and then the museums lose their funding.
 
In fact, I've had plastic surgeons tell me that I should have some procedures done to make myself less gorgeous, because merely by appearing in public I was giving people crushing inferiority complexes. It's a burden, all this hotness. I can't even go to art museums because when I walk by the classical statuary, everyone says "these Greek gods look like crap compared to him!" and then the museums lose their funding.

yeah we have a huge burden. life is hard :D
 
When there's a problem to be fixed, sure. But a woman with perfectly ordinary C-cups getting breast enlargement for no reason other than she thinks men go for big boobs? Unnecessary.

Both are getting it to make themselves more attractive. The desire and the goals are the same, it is just which ones you find to improve their attractiveness more.
 
I think people should do what they want with their own time and money, outside of effecting other people.

At the core of the issue, what difference does a person getting PS really make to anyone else? The choice is theirs alone, or perhaps made mutually with a significant other. Does it degrade the concept of aging? Does it have some societal effect? I don't think so.

What a shame it would be to look back as a 80 year old and say, "gosh, I had the money, and I had the time - why didn't I fix my chin, or nose, or teeth, or breasts (or any body part) so I could've gone through life not thinking about it constantly?"

PS gets a bad name because of Hollywood overindulgence, but oftentimes middle class people utilize it to make subtle changes in their appearance, and research show that the better we look, the better we feel, and the quality of life improves.
 
Any man who has plastic surgery is not a real man. Real men know they're already perfect.
 
I meant that I didn't believe anyone who already has a natural appearance should have surgery solely to improve it. I can accept people with disfiguring injuries or congenital disorders having surgery to correct these defects.
The problem is that people who want surgery done often consider their traits to be defects even if they aren't by any objective measure or in anybody else's view. I'm reminded of one particular woman I know who has a relatively large, convex nose. To me she's sexy but I can nearly guarantee you that she hates her nose regardless of what I think.
 
Got braces two+ years ago. Not for any cosmetic reasons, but because one tooth was so out of alignment I kept biting my lip. That was adjusted in the first couple months. I'm still wondering why I can't have these things off NOW! Some people may think I'm an arrogant git but I have to get through the treatment. It's not always about vanity.

Fortunately I could afford to pay up front at the time, but I still get questioning looks like "How can you afford braces if you are unemployed?"
 
I'm watching Jay Leno's show right now and he's got Garry Shandling on. Shandling looks like he's wearing a mask. Women look bad enough when they have work done, but men look ridiculous. Bruce Jenner, Kenny Rogers, Mickey Rourke. Men should just accept the aging process.

Steve S

Do you really think that the morality of people having plastic surgery relies on how culturally accepted the results are? How do you reconsile **** liek female genital mutilation, foot binding, or neck rings?
 
To be honest, I don't think anyone should get plastic surgery, with the exception of people disfigured in accidents or with a birth defect. Nine times out ten the person looks worse than before the surgery.

Well there´s some other reasons, I know a lot of people under going gender reassignment use plastic surgery as a lifeboat towards being able to aesthetically fit into society as their new gender. Usually though, plastic surgery should be confined towards reconstruction from some horrible accident, or if you want a cone head. ;)
 

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