The Freeman Movement and England

[D'rok]

When I saw Rob's new mission as a Peace Officer and Droks lovely law citations, I had to copy and paste it over on the Icke forum. Hope you don't mind, Drok.

Of course not. But Menard doesn't consent to that part of the Criminal Code, so he's free and clear.

 

[Especially]

You have to laugh.

There are two and only two kinds of government.

A. Governments who serve the people
B. People who serve governments

And guess what ? The vast majority of people are sleepwalking in to serving governments. All achieved by believing your 'enemies' are attacking your freedoms ! What freedoms ? The Patriot Act, the surveillance state, the industrial military complex, the misinformation age, the endless 'war on error'. So, whose attacking your freedoms ? LOL !!!

Want to do something about it ? Great ! Check out the corporate legal industry, the legalise, the corporate political system, the Statutes posing as 'laws', the unaccountability of your own ruling elites, the mafia ruling virtually every part of modern life and the Common Law which gives you back your personal sovereignty.

Against which are the paid stooges, the fraternities, the illusionists, the magicians of the mass media, the banker bailouts, the fiat money, and the deception of the spin merchants of the mass media. Unplug your corporate TV and get a life.

Exercise your own power of consent - or lose it. Simple.

 

[Stacey Grove]

Hi, notwat

 

[remirol]

Did he actually say anything there?

 

[Especially]

No, not to you, anyway !

Choose whom you will serve.

And render unto Caesar, of course !! LOL

We get so busy 'rendering unto Caesar' we've no time for anything else, right ? LOL

Did he actually say anything there?

 

[Stacey Grove]

Especially is notwattyler on TPUC.
He believes courts consider us as Roman citizens.

http://www.tpuc.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=12838&hilit=roman

 

[remirol]

No, not to you, anyway !

Choose whom you will serve.

And render unto Caesar, of course !! LOL

We get so busy 'rendering unto Caesar' we've no time for anything else, right ? LOL

So just hot air, then, and still no evidence that FOTL does anything other than make things worse for the people who try to rely on it. Since you've been gone, you may have seen a bunch of evidence that FOTL gets you sent to jail -- any thoughts on any of that?

 

[D'rok]

You have to laugh.

There are two and only two kinds of government.

A. Governments who serve the people
B. People who serve governments

And guess what ? The vast majority of people are sleepwalking in to serving governments. All achieved by believing your 'enemies' are attacking your freedoms ! What freedoms ? The Patriot Act, the surveillance state, the industrial military complex, the misinformation age, the endless 'war on error'. So, whose attacking your freedoms ? LOL !!!

Want to do something about it ? Great ! Check out the corporate legal industry, the legalise, the corporate political system, the Statutes posing as 'laws', the unaccountability of your own ruling elites, the mafia ruling virtually every part of modern life and the Common Law which gives you back your personal sovereignty.

Against which are the paid stooges, the fraternities, the illusionists, the magicians of the mass media, the banker bailouts, the fiat money, and the deception of the spin merchants of the mass media. Unplug your corporate TV and get a life.

Exercise your own power of consent - or lose it. Simple.

I don't consent to having free-loading dirtbags using the services and infrastructure that my taxes paid for. I don't consent to a social contract where jackasses get a line-item veto on civic responsibility. I despise the hypocrisy of children who try to avoid their civic responsibility by complaining about it on a publicly subsidized telecommunications network.

Grow up or pay the price. Simple.

 

[Especially]

The opposite is true. The Common Law makes us free of tyrants. It recognises our rights, our power of consent, and it's hated by spooks of all kinds.

What's your next question ?

So just hot air, then, and still no evidence that FOTL does anything other than make things worse for the people who try to rely on it. Since you've been gone, you may have seen a bunch of evidence that FOTL gets you sent to jail -- any thoughts on any of that?

 

[Especially]

Growing up and paying the price for corporate bankers, corporate governments, corporate courts, corporate policeforces, corporate mass media and corporate industrial/military complex. Ah, yes, 'civic responsibility' ! What a wonderful term. Does that include the Common Law, the rights of free speech, the right to call in to question rampant corruption, fraternal takeovers of governments, spying, surveillance, wars in your name, and the usual mafia banksters robbing us blind and trashing the freedoms of ordinary men and women with zero responsibility and accountability for their actions ?

The civic responsibility of a man or a woman who exercises their power of consent and their own rights to the BS of ruling elites. Right ? We are so busy rendering unto Caesar we are model citizens. LOL !

Can't write more. I'm making/submitting an application form to cross the road. Subject to the permit, licence, grant of my hierarchical rulers, of course. Doesn't the word 'submit' appeal to you ? And any suspicious activity, no matter how small, must be reported on the hotline. As a good, model citizen, of our great 'free' nation.

Serving our government is all I want to do.


LOL

I don't consent to having free-loading dirtbags using the services and infrastructure that my taxes paid for. I don't consent to a social contract where jackasses get a line-item veto on civic responsibility. I despise the hypocrisy of children who try to avoid their civic responsibility by complaining about it on a publicly subsidized telecommunications network.

Grow up or pay the price. Simple.

 

[remirol]

The opposite is true. The Common Law makes us free of tyrants. It recognises our rights, our power of consent, and it's hated by spooks of all kinds.

You didn't read what I said. The reality is that using FOTL gets you sent to jail. Please reread the last few pages, where FOTLers attempt to apply their magic words, and get sent to jail, fined, and served with Liability Orders.

Any comment on the reality of FOTL being a complete failure?

 

[D'rok]

As usual, you demonstrate your profound and total ignorance of what the common law actually is.

Go make up a better fairy story. Your pathetic narrative is swill only for the gullible and the simple.

 

[tobjai]

What do you contend "the highway" means in this context?

I had to bring this one up again, as I previously failed to point out one important thing. To fresh up the collective memory, the cop had said the following to Josh recorded on camera: "once you go on to the highway you need to have insurance"

Now, lets assume by using the word "highway" the cop actually meant all public streets (which I'm convinced he didn't. Because, using the wording "once you are going to..." assumes that he hasn't done it yet. But he has, as he clearly didn't get pulled over for driving in his private parking lot. He just happened to be nearby, so he pulled in to avoid being towed). He did not say "once you go on the highway, you need to have a drivers licence and a vehicle registration" .... just insurance.


Anyway... the reason I actually came on here today is to point out some genius stand up comedy (well, he is sitting) by Robert Menard. I wanted to make mention of his performance here, as at one point he is bringing up this forum (He didn't call it by name, but I'm pretty sure he meant this one). You'll find it on his youtube channel MrMitee. It is called Malcolms Travels, particularly Pt. 5-11

Enjoy

 

[Especially]

Ah, yes, and what does that mean ?

We have governments serving the people or people serving the governments. As for myself, I LOVE serving governments. Get me a bank. I feel like I simply must bail them out. Right away.

I'm nearly completed my application form to dispose of a bag of rubbish which I will send today. After I've reported my neighbours for very suspicious activity.

Don't you just love George Orwell and the Patriot Act ? Those heroic policemen and our heroic corporate news channels. Common Law - what's that ??? LOL

The war on error continues. Chocolate rations are about to be increased and razor blades are in short supply. The war with Eurasia continues and we all LOVE our corporate leaders. The Ministry of Truth reigns.

As usual, you demonstrate your profound and total ignorance of what the common law actually is.

Go make up a better fairy story. Your pathetic narrative is swill only for the gullible and the simple.

 

[tobjai]

I don't consent to having free-loading dirtbags using the services and infrastructure that my taxes paid for. I don't consent to a social contract where jackasses get a line-item veto on civic responsibility. I despise.....

WOW, is that the true agenda of this forum in a nutshell OR WHAT?!?

 

[remirol]

He did not say "once you go on the highway, you need to have a drivers licence and a vehicle registration" .... just insurance.

Omitting to explicitly mention a law doesn't mean it doesn't exist, as your "success story" found out when he got ticketed and summoned to court. It looks like another FOTLer is headed for jail and big fines... reality setting in again.

Anyway... the reason I actually came on here today is to point out some genius stand up comedy (well, he is sitting) by Robert Menard.

Have you read any of the recent comedy where Robert Menard is now impersonating a peace officer? That is funny stuff. I am just dying to hear what happens when he attempts to arrest someone for enforcing the real laws. Any comments on any of that, by the way, or just here to babble about rubbish on Youtube some more?

 

[Dave Rogers]

He did not say "once you go on the highway, you need to have a drivers licence and a vehicle registration" .... just insurance.

This is a fallacy very closely related to affirming the consequent. The policeman's statement was clearly (to anyone with common sense, so I can understand why FMOTL types don't get this) not intended as a comprehensive statement of every legal requirement, but simply as a statement of one legal requirement. Therefore, any inference that a driver's license and a vehicle registration are not required is fallacious. If you dispute this, I suggest you find a local venue that requires the wearing of a tie for admission, turn up wearing only a tie, and see if they'll let you in.

Dave

 

[tobjai]

Omitting to explicitly mention a law doesn't mean it doesn't exist, as your "success story" found out when he got ticketed and summoned to court. It looks like another FOTLer is headed for jail and big fines... reality setting in again.

Dude, I don't care about your reality. Nice distraction attempt anyway.

Fact is, there is no evidence of Josh having been ticketed at that particular occasion, and you can't prove otherwise. So lets focus on what we do know: "Once you go on the highway, you'll have to have insurance."

 

[Especially]

What we really, really need are lots of Freemasons, Knights of Columbus, and college fraternities infesting every pore of our society. Oath taking morons of state. And less talk of civil liberties. Our great freedoms are not under attack from morons. And nobody has any reason to be suspicious of the rise of the information state.

They hate our freedoms. So we love the surveillance state and the buffoons of the corporate newschannels, the corporate bankers, the corporate politicians, the corporate police forces and the 'laws' which are only statutes.

Chocolate rations are about to be increased. National Hate Week is almost over. And what we really, really need is a big brother globalised police state. Criticised by nobody.

In my opinion the Chemtrails, mass vaccinations, Codex Alimentarius, the war on error, the trashing of the Rights and freedoms of individuals are a small price for us to pay for our great 'freedoms'.

Oh, how I love NEW LAWS. New revenue collecting agents. And a dumbing down surveillance state.

I am, as you see, a model citizen of the 4th Reich. The NWO. And these Common Law people are only making fools of us.

 

[tobjai]

This is a fallacy very closely related to affirming the consequent. The policeman's statement was clearly (to anyone with common sense, so I can understand why FMOTL types don't get this) not intended as a comprehensive statement of every legal requirement, but simply as a statement of one legal requirement. Therefore, any inference that a driver's license and a vehicle registration are not required is fallacious. If you dispute this, I suggest you find a local venue that requires the wearing of a tie for admission, turn up wearing only a tie, and see if they'll let you in.

Dave

Have you ever spend much time on the subjects of psychology and lingual science? Do you really think that if the cop had an issue with the fact that there was no licence, he'd come out saying: "k, perfect... once you go on to the highway you need to have insurance"

Think again.