The Freeman Movement and England

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Pikachu said:
Although I don't think any of our prisons would ever feature on "America's Hardest Prisons" - they are not very nice places. Especially if you think you know better than everyone else and won't shut up about it. And as at least one of our local FMOTls proclaims that he only lives on purified water and organic fruit and veg...

They can call it victory if they like.
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I've only come across one in the 5 years since I qualified. It sounds like you're dealing with a nest of the blighters :eek:
 
jargon buster said:
Rob Menard posted this
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1058832532#post1058832532

JB/asky
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Personating peace officer​

130. (1) Everyone commits an offence who
(a) falsely represents himself to be a peace officer or a public officer; or
(b) not being a peace officer or public officer, uses a badge or article of uniform or equipment in a manner that is likely to cause persons to believe that he is a peace officer or a public officer, as the case may be.
Punishment​

(2) Everyone who commits an offence under subsection (1)
(a) is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term of not more than five years; or
(b) is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction.


http://www.canlii.org/en/ca/laws/stat/rsc-1985-c-c-46/latest/rsc-1985-c-c-46.html#sec130subsec1
 
D'rok said:
Personating peace officer​

130. (1) Everyone commits an offence who
(a) falsely represents himself to be a peace officer or a public officer; or
(b) not being a peace officer or public officer, uses a badge or article of uniform or equipment in a manner that is likely to cause persons to believe that he is a peace officer or a public officer, as the case may be.
Punishment​

(2) Everyone who commits an offence under subsection (1)
(a) is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term of not more than five years; or
(b) is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction.


http://www.canlii.org/en/ca/laws/stat/rsc-1985-c-c-46/latest/rsc-1985-c-c-46.html#sec130subsec1
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_enforcement_officer#Canada


In Canada, the Criminal Code (R.S., c. C-34, s. 2.) defines a peace officer as:
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"peace officer" includes

* (a) a mayor, warden, reeve, sheriff, deputy sheriff, sheriff’s officer, and justice of the peace,

* (b) a member of the Correctional Service of Canada who is designated as a peace officer pursuant to Part I of the Corrections and Conditional Release Act, and a warden, deputy warden, instructor, keeper, jailer, guard and any other officer or permanent employee of a prison other than a penitentiary as defined in Part I of the Corrections and Conditional Release Act,

* (c) a police officer, police constable, bailiff, constable, or other person employed for the preservation and maintenance of the public peace or for the service or execution of civil process,

* (d) an officer within the meaning of the Customs Act, the Excise Act or the Excise Act, 2001, or a person having the powers of such an officer, when performing any duty in the administration of any of those Acts,

* (d.1) an officer authorized under subsection 138(1) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act,

* (e) a person designated as a fishery guardian under the Fisheries Act when performing any duties or functions under that Act and a person designated as a fishery officer under the Fisheries Act when performing any duties or functions under that Act or the Coastal Fisheries Protection Act,

* (f) the pilot in command of an aircraft
o (i) registered in Canada under regulations made under the Aeronautics Act, or
o (ii) leased without crew and operated by a person who is qualified under regulations made under the Aeronautics Act to be registered as owner of an aircraft registered in Canada under those regulations, while the aircraft is in flight, and

* (g) officers and non-commissioned members of the Canadian Forces who are
o (i) appointed for the purposes of section 156 of the National Defence Act, (Military Police) or
o (ii) employed on duties that the Governor in Council, in regulations made under the National Defence Act for the purposes of this paragraph, has prescribed to be of such a kind as to necessitate that the officers and non-commissioned members performing them have the powers of peace officers;
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So, any guesses as to which one he claims to be? :D
 
What annoys me about most of the cases I've read about is that they all seem to involve trivial (at least to me) amounts of money. I'm paying off five figures worth of debt at the moment. It's not easy but I'm managing, having arranged repayment plans with my creditors that I can just about afford.

But some of these sums are for less than a hundred pounds. And they go through the FOTL rigmarole and end up owing many times that or in jail.

Crazy.
 
Horatius said:
I'm actually impressed with that mod's responses in that thread.
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Yes, it does make a change.
It appears that the mod merlincove threw the towel in yesterday.
He was biased in favour of the FOTL, and protected certain members no matter what they posted. But he was always quick to issue warnings to those that disagree with the FOTL.
Good riddance I say.
 
commandlinegamer said:
What annoys me about most of the cases I've read about is that they all seem to involve trivial (at least to me) amounts of money.
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Here is advice given on TPUC by skipper1 to somebody who has received a FPN for £60 for failing to wear a seatbelt and fears the bailiffs are coming.

sell the house to your mother for £1 you will get it back in your will, you dont own the house or anything inside it, its all your mothers, or me il look after it for you.

or go to court, turn yourself into optimus prime and kill the judges, worked for me. shut up jasmine you know this works, dont diss it.
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Horatius said:
I'm actually impressed with that mod's responses in that thread.
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I was as well ('Krakhead'?). my guess is the people running Icke regard FMOTL as a relatively minor matter compared to reptilians, satanism, 'troofing' & antisemitism.
 
Horatius said:
I'm actually impressed with that mod's responses in that thread.
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And girlgyes' response?

Using words like Witch hunt is rich. When it is they who cast the witch hunt on us.
Read the Forum rules yourself. Then when you've done that read the Forum topic.

It is not the James Randi Forum for Skeptical Enquiry. So please don't talk about adult behaviour to me.

Guess gg isn't contracting with the mods.

So far Asky has caused three regulars to leave(or threaten to) the DI forum.

Is there a medal or citation for that?

The Order of the Burr Under the Saddle?
 
gtm said:
I was as well ('Krakhead'?). my guess is the people running Icke regard FMOTL as a relatively minor matter compared to reptilians, satanism, 'troofing' & antisemitism.
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I was going to comment on the irony of a guy who calls himself "Krakhead" being the voice of reason, but I decided not to....D'Oh!
 
When I saw Rob's new mission as a Peace Officer and Droks lovely law citations, I had to copy and paste it over on the Icke forum. Hope you don't mind, Drok.
 
So far Asky has caused three regulars to leave(or threaten to) the DI forum.
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I got girlgye a permenant ban from TPUC :D
She also said that I was out to make her commit suicide?????
I mean, influence someone over an internet forum?
How unstable does someone have to be to not stop reading someones posts?

JB/asky
 
I note that girlgye has joined the "fish or cut bait" part of the movement. Of course if nobody contracts with her, well uuummm, who cares:

I will be leaving shortly too as are others, I believe. It's just intolerable. I came to get volunteers to raise awareness for Robert Green in Aberdeen. Witnesses are coming forward and most people on here want to judge, criticise or do nothing.

So it's not for me.

I can't be around moral cowardice. FMOL is not about fence sitting or anarchy. You know that
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http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=113690&page=3

This from somebody who almost talked one of her "friends" into jail.

Norm
 
I feel sorry for Menard, after all he's just trying to earn an er...... honest living and you jrefers are spoiling it for him.:D
 
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