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[rorylee]

Hmmm, explosions cause a characteristic signal in seismometers. That signal can be distinguished from one caused by, say, a mine collapse or the various types of fault motion by analysing whether the initial 'blips' recorded on the seismographs around the world are up or down. I suppose that an impact on the Earth's surface might have a similar signature to an explosion - as long as the impactor hit the ground perpendicularly, such that the seismic waves propagated isotropically. But even if a non-explosive impact did have the same seismic signature as an explosion, I don't know how the amplitudes would compare. I have to add the disclaimer that I'm no seismologist, and I'm only speculating.

I should also clarify that the seismic waves from a nuclear explosion don't cause an earthquake; the seismic waves are an earthquake.

Alittle bit confused lol, not hard with technical talk i don't fully understand but is there anything stopping people in re-creating the seismic wave which can cause earthquakes from an explosion etc and re-producing it whenever like without the explosion?

In a sense, ripping apart a nuclear explosion, taking only the seismic wave from it and using that.

 

[Sean84]

Alittle bit confused lol, not hard with technical talk i don't fully understand but is there anything stopping people in re-creating the seismic wave which can cause earthquakes from an explosion etc and re-producing it whenever like without the explosion?

In a sense, ripping apart a nuclear explosion, taking only the seismic wave from it and using that.

Alittle bit confused lol, not hard with crazy talk i don't fully understand but WTF... ?

 

[TSR]

Alittle bit confused lol, not hard with technical talk i don't fully understand but is there anything stopping people in re-creating the seismic wave which can cause earthquakes from an explosion etc and re-producing it whenever like without the explosion?

In a sense, ripping apart a nuclear explosion, taking only the seismic wave from it and using that.

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You mean other than the fact that it's not possible to "rip apart" a nuclear explosion and "take only the seismic wave?"

Can one "rip apart" a piano and take only the music?
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[Jack by the hedge]

Alittle bit confused lol, not hard with technical talk i don't fully understand but is there anything stopping people in re-creating the seismic wave which can cause earthquakes from an explosion etc and re-producing it whenever like without the explosion?

In a sense, ripping apart a nuclear explosion, taking only the seismic wave from it and using that.

That would be like popping a balloon, throwing away the balloon and keeping the "bang" in a cardboard box. Do you see the problem?

The seismic wave of a nuclear test is (exactly like the pop of a bursting balloon) an expanding pressure wave, moving away from the source of the explosion. You want to throw away the H-bomb but keep the energy it releases. What would you keep it in?

Thankfully there is one convenient container capable of containing one H-bomb's worth of explosive energy: it's called... an H-bomb.

 

[TSR]

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Stundied, BTW
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[rorylee]

That would be like popping a balloon, throwing away the balloon and keeping the "bang" in a cardboard box. Do you see the problem?

The seismic wave of a nuclear test is (exactly like the pop of a bursting balloon) an expanding pressure wave, moving away from the source of the explosion. You want to throw away the H-bomb but keep the energy it releases. What would you keep it in?

Thankfully there is one convenient container capable of containing one H-bomb's worth of explosive energy: it's called... an H-bomb.

Im been a smart ass, but yes. Take a sound recording on the 'bang' from the balloon

So there is no way to re-produce a seismic wave?

 

[TSR]

So there is no way to re-produce a seismic wave?

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Sure there is: do what ever caused the first one again.
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[rorylee]

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Sure there is: do what ever caused the first one again.
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lol sure, fair enough answer! But we make can make other waves, why not that one without an explosion? i don't know this field that much, why all the questions.

We know a nuclear bomb can cause earthquakes from the seismic waves. Its an area that can explain man-made earthquakes if somehow new technology (HAARP) was able to re-create them seismic waves without the need of a nuclear exlposion. Just canceling out a possibility that is all.

 

[TSR]

lol sure, fair enough answer! But we make can make other waves, why not that one without an explosion? i don't know this field that much, why all the questions.

We know a nuclear bomb can cause earthquakes from the seismic waves. Its an area that can explain man-made earthquakes if somehow new technology (HAARP) was able to re-create them seismic waves without the need of a nuclear exlposion. Just canceling out a possibility that is all.

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The problem is, that "re-creating" seismic waves isn't what HAARP does.

You really should learn a bit about a subject before you start making crap up...
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[Correa Neto]

Two protons expelled at each coupling site creates the mode of force, the embryo becomes a fish that we don't enter until a plate, we're here to experience evolve the little toe, atrophy, don't ask me how I'll be dead in a thousand light years, thank you, thank you. Genesis turns to its source, reduction occurs stepwise though the essence is all one. End of line. FTL system check, diagnostic functions within parameters repeats the harlequin the agony exquisite, the colors run the path of ashes, neuronal network run fifty-two percent of heat exchanger cross-collateralized with hyper-dimensional matrix, upper senses, repair ordered relay to zero zero zero zero.

 

[Cosmic Roy]

Im been a smart ass, but yes. Take a sound recording on the 'bang' from the balloon

So there is no way to re-produce a seismic wave?

Seismic waves carry through the Earth the energy of a given event, elsewhere on the planet. They also carry information about the nature of the event in the variation of their initial polarities when they emerge at the Earth's surface. Let's call this the seismic signature. For a given event, when you look at the seismographs recorded by all the seismic stations distributed across the world, you can tell whether that event was caused by an explosion or by a fault slip or whatever. In the case of a fault, you can even infer the orientation and slip direction. That's how scientists for the Global Seismographic Network distinguish nuclear tests from earthquakes.

You asked whether the seismic waves associated with an explosion could be reproduced by some other means. I speculate that something big hitting the surface of the planet could produce seismic waves with the right kind of polarity distribution (the seismic signature). But to initiate seismic waves with the same energy as those created by a nuclear detonation would require you to put into the ground the same amount of energy that a nuclear bomb does. To my (admittedly naive) mind, there's no way of doing that that does not involve a nuclear bomb, as posters before me have said.

I can definitively assure you that one method that will not work is to direct radiowaves into the sky above an obscure part of North America.

 

[Belz...]

It wasn't like that at all, i didn't want to mention it in this thread but to better explain it, its a thought that wasn't my own i got after watching a show relating to it on TV/Internet.

Then i looked for possible ways as i said 'IF' it could be done. I found 2, 1 a fact and 2 a theory with no proof.

I'm sorry... what ?

 

[TSR]

Two protons expelled at each coupling site creates the mode of force, the embryo becomes a fish that we don't enter until a plate, we're here to experience evolve the little toe, atrophy, don't ask me how I'll be dead in a thousand light years, thank you, thank you. Genesis turns to its source, reduction occurs stepwise though the essence is all one. End of line. FTL system check, diagnostic functions within parameters repeats the harlequin the agony exquisite, the colors run the path of ashes, neuronal network run fifty-two percent of heat exchanger cross-collateralized with hyper-dimensional matrix, upper senses, repair ordered relay to zero zero zero zero.

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And the little penguin says "Radio! Radio!"
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[Jack by the hedge]

Im been a smart ass, but yes. Take a sound recording on the 'bang' from the balloon

So there is no way to re-produce a seismic wave?

You can produce a seismic wave lots of ways - by whacking a steel groundplate with a sledgehammer, for example - but that doesn't make terribly big seismic waves.

I wondered if recording the balloon would occur to you. The thing is, an audio amp and loudspeaker are capable of emitting the same amount of sound energy as a popping balloon. In other words the pop from a speaker can be just as loud as the original pop.

But there's only one man-made thing which can reproduce a bang as loud as an H-bomb. And that's another H-bomb.

 

[Cosmic Roy]

We know a nuclear bomb can cause earthquakes from the seismic waves. Its an area that can explain man-made earthquakes if somehow new technology (HAARP) was able to re-create them seismic waves without the need of a nuclear exlposion. Just canceling out a possibility that is all.

You should probably drop this nuclear bomb approach to earthquakes, rorylee. If you use a broad definition of Earthquake as meaning any motion of the ground, then yes, bombs cause earthquakes (though remember that Marduk disagreed with me about my definitions). But these earthquakes are not what most people imagine when they hear the word. The tremors caused by nuclear bombs can be detected all over the world, sure, but they're not the kind of ground movements that flattened Port au Prince, and the seismic waves produced cannot be targeted.

 

[Marduk]

I'll be dead in a thousand light years, thank you.

then finally the rest of us might be spared your witticisms

 

[Correa Neto]

Or not.

You know, due to quantum blahblahblahblahblahblah. Next time I'll try to dig the postmodernism generator. Should be at least on par with Cylon hybrid babble regarding content and understandability. Then we can compare with rorylee's posts...

 

[Jocce]

Two protons expelled at each coupling site

That should be "eachothers coupling site". Other than that it looks fine.

 

[Correa Neto]

OK, here it is!
Postmodernism Generator:
However, any number of discourses concerning the role of the artist as observer exist. If Batailleist `powerful communication’ holds, we have to choose between deconstructive appropriation and subcapitalist libertarianism.

In a sense, an abundance of deconstructions concerning subdeconstructivist cultural theory may be found. The primary theme of the works of Spelling is not, in fact, situationism, but presituationism.

Therefore, Lyotard suggests the use of cultural discourse to read and attack class. Von Junz[3] states that we have to choose between surrealism and neodialectic socialism.

TimeCube Generator:
Are you afraid to know? All Educated are
Stupid from brainwashing and word
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uneducated and Wise, than educated with Lies. You
are stupid and evil about the Earth's top
and bottom with front and back, and
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- with a top and bottom, front and back
and it's 2 sides. YOU KNOW WHAT!!! You are
probably brainwashed, indoctrinated, educated
stupid because they are really dumb and
cannot comprehend their slavery to
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corners of races with each race divided by 4
to discover a perfectly vertical Earth
axis which represents the imperfection of
all created life on Earth. No human has
personal right to believe wrong. As there is a
word masturbation. A fart has more
"substance" than a single rotation of the Earth.
Educators are evil bastards who fear Time Cube -
which disproves god scams. That is criminal
academia.

SubGenius Brag Generator
Yes, I'm the last remaining Homo Correctus! YAH-HOOOO! I wipe the *Pyramids* off my shoes before I enter *my* house! *Space monsters* cringe at my tread! Now give me some more of...

Discuss.

Postmodernism generator (and links to the other generators) can be found at
http://www.elsewhere.org/pomo/

 

[rorylee]

Sweet, thanks for the explanation Cosmic Roy, much appreciated, I've got a better understanding now.

Some reason im still interested on thinking about seismic waves and now maybe a link to gravity or anti-gravity, why, i don't know yet. I wish i wasn't cap i would watch this video again about anti-gravity by Body Bushman, i remember it to be mind blowing but i forget most now lol *slaps head*.

Boyd Bushman On The Hutchison Effect Antigravity - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv8WwnWJDmw