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The Marijuana Conspiracy

I think it is more that they are violently anti US Establishment...and anybody they perceive of as being Anti US Establishment they like.
If Hitler or Stalin were alive today and saying nasty things about the US Government, the FOTLers would be swooning over them.
 
dudalb said:
I think it is more that they are violently anti US Establishment...and anybody they perceive of as being Anti US Establishment they like.
If Hitler or Stalin were alive today and saying nasty things about the US Government, the FOTLers would be swooning over them.
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Yeah, it seems that if a certain type of person dislikes the us, then they just attach to anything else that dosn't like the us. I mean don't get me wrong the us government does a lot of stupid things, but that dosn't justify blaming everything from hangnails to plagues on the,
 
sadhatter said:
I like your questions and i would like to try my hand with them.
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Now i can't wait to compare my answers to the rest of the class.
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Thanks, Sadhatter!

Your answers are similar to mine. I'd have a higher age limit, though, especially since brain development isn't done until 25.

I also see a distinction between decriminalization and legalization. In the U.S., we'd probably have to start by instituting fines for use or possession as a first step down from current practices. But I haven't thought about it much since this isn't my issue.
 
I think Dandyone is stuck between a rock and a hardplace. He doesn't trust private enterprise because he thinks all business leaders conspire in secret volcano lairs to do terrible things but he also doesn't trust the government as can be seen in his rants against the FDA, CDC and commerce regulation.

In essence he doesn't trust anyone but himself so this is all really just him getting hot and bothered about other people telling him what to do and what comes across is all this content lacking rage and fury. Loads of acrimony but no answers because answers aren't the point, getting people to stop stopping him from doing whatever the hell he wants is the point.
 
Hans said:
Well heck I'll reply as a Dandone clone

1. I want complete freedom from all taxes
2. I want the freedom to have my SSN check doubled or if I have a government or private pension I don't want the government to prevent me from having them doubling it, LOL
3. I want to have the freedom to remove all sin laws - no age limits for drinking,driving or sexual activity
4. I want the freedom to have no military at all but just a militia
5. I want the freedom to make the government admit they know about aliens
6. I want the freedom to make the government admit they know about cities on Mars
7. I want the freedom to shoot my ex-wife
8. I want the freedom to shut down the Federal Reserve
9. I want the freedom to live in a country that is capitalistic but has no corporations
10. I want the freedom to say whatever I want while preventing those I don't agree with to say anything
11. I want the freedom to have our children taught to think like me
12. I also want the freedom to count 12 as 10
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1-No, but I'd like my taxes to be legal apportioned taxes and have them put to better use. Single payer universal health care should be a priority, along with infrastructure repair and updates.

2-Don't want any SSN, but support it for those who need it.

3-Reasonable local and state laws for use of intoxicating agents and cigarettes in public, including banns in certain public places. Reasonable child endangerment laws regarding furnishing alcohol, tobacco, or drugs to those under 18.

4-I'd like to have a military that is for defensive purposes, like all other countries besides Israel and a few others. I do not think it is fair to have a military that spends more than all others on the planet combined and be forced to pay for it. We also pay for Israels huge military budget. End the empire please.

5-It would be nice to have a government that doesn't lie to the ones who pay their salaries about UFOs advanced technology or anything else. End the shadow government.

6-??

7-Don't have an ex, don't advocate violence against anyone except in self defense.

8-I would like to see the Federal Reserve System ended, and replaced with a system that serves all the people, instead of a running a ponzi cash machine for foreign bankers and their families paid for by American working people. Debt free US Treasury notes, as Lincoln used during the Civil War to fund the federal government. The low interest, 2% charged on government loans for all primary housing and small bussinesses would make the income tax unnecessary. All money owed to Federal Reserve should be defaulted on immediately, all their assets should be forfieted back to the US treasury and all those involved in the scam should be forced to wear electronic listening devices around their necks for life. TRILLIONS for America, and future protection from the financial terrorists!!

9-I believe in free enterprise for PEOPLE. Capitalism is making money from money. Usury laws should be enacted and enforced. Corporations should only be able to operate in the US if they can show that it is in the public interest. When they cease to be in compliance, their charters should be revoked.

10-Free speech for all persons. Not corporations, they don't talk. We the people should maintain control over these entities, not the other way around as it is today.

11-Parents and local schoolboards should decide the ciriculum.

12-If I want to, you are damn right!!

13-Release ALL prisoners who have been incarcerated for petty drug crimes. By that I mean all Marijuana and anything less than 100 kilos of anything else. That is about a million+ prisoners at 50K a year. Lotta $$$$

14-Use all the surplus funds that would be available after a couple years of my plan to retool the great American manufacturing juggarnaught and the hemp-chem-food industry, and away we go!!

There you have it!!
 
Travis said:
I think Dandyone is stuck between a rock and a hardplace. He doesn't trust private enterprise because he thinks all business leaders conspire in secret volcano lairs to do terrible things but he also doesn't trust the government as can be seen in his rants against the FDA, CDC and commerce regulation.

In essence he doesn't trust anyone but himself so this is all really just him getting hot and bothered about other people telling him what to do and what comes across is all this content lacking rage and fury. Loads of acrimony but no answers because answers aren't the point, getting people to stop stopping him from doing whatever the hell he wants is the point.
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Just what we all need, a psychic armchair mind reader. In essence you don't know a thing about me.
 
Dandyone said:
Just what we all need, a psychic armchair mind reader. In essence you don't know a thing about me.
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I'm not pretending to read minds. I'm making an interpretation based on your posting history.
 
Dandyone

You do realize that a number of your comments contradict one another?

Before we start to analyze that. Let me ask a parameter setting question. At what point, specifically, does a family owned business which I know you would support, become an evil corporation?

Are you proposing to end fractional banking?

You stated
Use all the surplus funds that would be available after a couple years of my plan to retool the great American manufacturing juggarnaught and the hemp-chem-food industry, and away we go!!
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Aren't the 'great American manufacturing juggernaught' in fact evil Corporations?
 
Pot is legal in Canada only for medical reasons. It is still illegal to grow it. Every fall the RCMP flies over rural areas trying to locate it every fall.
 
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Dandyone said:
14-Use all the surplus funds that would be available after a couple years of my plan to retool the great American manufacturing juggarnaught and the hemp-chem-food industry, and away we go!!
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Apparently you've learned nothing from this thread.
 
The dude has a magic weapon. He simply denies reality and makes up stuff that he then believes makes sense. However I don't think he actually thinks this stuff thru his recipe is one for economic collapse.

I wonder if he knows why the nations of the world have central banks......
 
If there was ever a thread that cries out to keep weed illegal, it's right here.
 
Dandyone said:
http://www.1215.org/lawnotes/lawnotes/repvsdem.htm

"In a republic the sovereignty is in each individual person. In a democracy the sovereignty is in the group."

"The distinction between our Republic and a democracy is not an idle one. It has great legal significance.
The Constitution guarantees to every state a Republican form of government (Art. 4, Sec. 4). No state may join the United States unless it is a Republic. Our Republic is one dedicated to "liberty and justice for all." Minority individual rights are the priority. The people have natural rights instead of civil rights. The people are protected by the Bill of Rights from the majority. One vote in a jury can stop all of the majority from depriving any one of the people of his rights; this would not be so if the United States were a democracy. (see People's rights vs Citizens' rights)

In a pure democracy 51 beats 49[%]. In a democracy there is no such thing as a significant minority: there are no minority rights except civil rights (privileges) granted by a condescending majority. Only five of the U.S. Constitution's first ten amendments apply to Citizens of the United States. Simply stated, a democracy is a dictatorship of the majority. Socrates was executed by a democracy: though he harmed no one, the majority found him intolerable."

BIG DIFFERENCE!!!
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Riveting. Or we could have a look at what the words actually mean.
dictionary.com said:
de·moc·ra·cy
1.government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.
2.a state having such a form of government: The United States and Canada are democracies.
3.a state of society characterized by formal equality of rights and privileges.
4.political or social equality; democratic spirit.
5.the common people of a community as distinguished from any privileged class; the common people with respect to their political power.
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So how would you like to argue that the United States is not a democracy?
 
JimBenArm said:
If there was ever a thread that cries out to keep weed illegal, it's right here.
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No kidding, why do we get all the inept, paranoid pot-heads. I swear the mere mention of Hemp is a sign they've gone off the deep end.
 
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