Split Thread 'Nose-out' footage

[triforcharity]

Exactly. You were there and you didn't see the plane. You heard about it later on CNN, like all the other eyewitnesses.

No, actually, when the other eyewitnesses came up to us and told us, and when the FAA starting informing us, then we knew it was a 767.

That, and when I heard the second come screaming into the other tower, and saw the huge explosion 1000' over my head, I knew we were under attack.

Don't try me son.

This kind of thing that happens to whistleblowers:
http://www.voltairenet.org/article160636.html

You can find what really happened to him here.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146399

IIRC, didn't he murder his wife or something?

And once the bombs started dropping around him, he decided to brag about it?

Yeah, when you are nowhere near there, I would laugh too. I mean, if I was a heartless coward like Bin Laden.

 

[gumboot]

There was a big jet fuel explosion inside the building which blew smoke and flames forward, sideways, and backwards through the same hole the plane had made. Can you suggest a plausible sequence of events that could account for a piece of fuselage from near the back of the plane being blown forward, out through a window and across the plaza?

It's called momentum. The piece of fuselage near the back of the plane was travelling forward. It hit the building and continued forward. It exited the building and continued forward and down. It hit the ground, and stopped.

 

[TruthersLie]

Bump for Bard. Lets see if he understand momentum

There was a big jet fuel explosion inside the building which blew smoke and flames forward, sideways, and backwards through the same hole the plane had made. Can you suggest a plausible sequence of events that could account for a piece of fuselage from near the back of the plane being blown forward, out through a window and across the plaza?

Truther LIE. If the plane had been sitting still, then it would be very interesting that an explosion throws a piece from the REAR of the plane past the front of the plane. absolutely amazing. But the Jet wasn't standing still. It was moving at 500mph. At that speed, the momentum of the 100 TON aircraft keeps moving forwards. It is a rather simple concept. (you must have missed that day in science class)

I have repeatedly. Are you ready twoofie? Here we go (again)
Nose in, engine out. You can clearly see it is the engine going through the building with the momentum. (you might want to look up what that word means)


and


and one of my favorites. Where does the metal sheet end up? At the car or well past it? It weighs less than the car. Why does the metal and the debris end up behind the car?



ETA: I can't leave out still images which explain it as well

The rest of your arguments from ignorance and incredulity are noted and rejected. You might want to do 10 minutes of real research before you try to pass of that crap.


from 210 on to about 240. What was that ejected from the impacting jet?

Do you understand how momentum works now ace?

 

[Wolrab]

Boy, if I was completely refuted in every single piece of crap I ever posted, I think I would pretend to kill myself. That would show them! Again.

 

[twinstead]

Boy, if I was completely refuted in every single piece of crap I ever posted, I think I would pretend to kill myself. That would show them! Again.

Oh no he di'in't!

 

[Wolrab]

Oh no he di'in't!

Ace did that on two call in shows (IIRC), but that has nothing to do with this thread because Ace was banned long ago and wouldn't ever have a few old socks laying around.

 

[Fonebone]

UBL is proud to tell the truth unlike the liars known as 911Truth. When will you stop apologizing for murderers, the 19 terrorists who took credit for their act on video tape. You are evidence free and spewing delusions; what is your next trick after ignoring evidence for 8 years?



What is your point about the "nose-out" lies? Did you find some evidence to support your failed ideas after 8 years of failure? Why are you here supporting lies; here at a skeptic forum? You should start your own thread listing your evidence; the world’s shortest thread.

"nose-out" scam, one of many insane ideas by the failed movement with truth in the name to mislead the gullible.

beachnut >
" nose-out" scam, one of many insane ideas by the failed movement with truth in the name to mislead the gullible.

-Fonebone < Au Contraire
The "nose-out " is not a scam but evidence that the "jumbo-jet" was
a flying object disguised as a Boeing 767 jumbo jet.

 

[twinstead]

Ace did that on two call in shows (IIRC), but that has nothing to do with this thread because Ace was banned long ago and wouldn't ever have a few old socks laying around.

Of course not.

 

[TruthersLie]

Kurt Sonnenfeld

Like with most of your bs posts, all we need to do is find one bit...

I love this one. Kurt Sonnenfeld a former FEMA photographer is now a twoof celebrity.

He is persecuted and did absolutely NOTHING wrong.

Other than murder his wife
and
flee the country.

I mean, he didn't do anything the rest of us haven't thought about dozens of times. But we can believe him about 9/11. (oh wait, nothing he says shows inside job).

try again twoof. 5 minutes of REAL research. It isn't that hard.

 

[TruthersLie]

Bump for Bard

Truther LIE. If the plane had been sitting still, then it would be very interesting that an explosion throws a piece from the REAR of the plane past the front of the plane. absolutely amazing. But the Jet wasn't standing still. It was moving at 500mph. At that speed, the momentum of the 100 TON aircraft keeps moving forwards. It is a rather simple concept. (you must have missed that day in science class)

I have repeatedly. Are you ready twoofie? Here we go (again)
Nose in, engine out. You can clearly see it is the engine going through the building with the momentum. (you might want to look up what that word means)


and


and one of my favorites. Where does the metal sheet end up? At the car or well past it? It weighs less than the car. Why does the metal and the debris end up behind the car?



ETA: I can't leave out still images which explain it as well

The rest of your arguments from ignorance and incredulity are noted and rejected. You might want to do 10 minutes of real research before you try to pass of that crap.


from 210 on to about 240. What was that ejected from the impacting jet?

So the question still stands. Do you understand what momentum is ace? Yes or no. It should be easy to answer. Why have you run away?

 

[twinstead]

Dude. Momentum was invented by the NWO so they could plant plane parts safely away from the buildings when everybody else was fixated on them. WAKE UP!

 

[Wolrab]

Dude. Momentum was invented by the NWO so they could plant plane parts safely away from the buildings when everybody else was fixated on them. WAKE UP!

Momentum comes from the phrase, "Just a moment! Um, okay." usually said when a mother knocks on her teenage son's bedroom door. It gives just enough time to hide the nudie magazines under the mattress. From the NWO dictionary.

 

[dafydd]

So Bard, or Ace...how do you account for all of the amateur footage shot of the plane impact?

And answer came there none.

 

[Macgyver1968]

And answer came there none.

It's ok...I really wasn't expecting one.

If you believe that no planes hit the towers, and believe all the images broadcast on tv were fake...that only involves the MSM...which we all know work for the NWO/Iluminati/Jews/Lizardmen...that's easy.

The 15 minutes in between attacks gave New Yorkers time to grab their camera and go outside to see WTF was going on. Hundreds of people videoed the second attack. If there were no planes, how could any human (vs. alien) organization manage to insert planes into every photo and video taken that day by the entire borough of Manhattan. That's just silly. If there were no planes..why were they pointing their camera at the sky where the planes were?

I tried to take a "woo reading" with an EMP-proof, ruggedized woo meter....it just smokes the circuits. Burnt my damn hand.

 

[BigAl]

It's ok...I really wasn't expecting one.

If you believe that no planes hit the towers, and believe all the images broadcast on tv were fake...that only involves the MSM...which we all know work for the NWO/Iluminati/Jews/Lizardmen...that's easy.

The 15 minutes in between attacks gave New Yorkers time to grab their camera and go outside to see WTF was going on. Hundreds of people videoed the second attack.

While there were lots of cameras in use, getting the plane on video involved lots of luck. I have these three shots and I recall 4th was made from the Staten Island Ferry but I can't find it.

Does anyone know of any others?

Plane #2 goes thru building
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2859455565562890133&q=cameraplanet&hl=en

http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...cameraplanet&hl=en#docid=-2728732403558816113

http://www.livevideo.com/video/F5061FCB97754E80A3AD82C7706A9400/evan-fairbanks-extra-plane.aspx

 

[Mangoose]

Does anyone know of any others?

I can think of ten off the top of my head.

 

[bardamu]

And yet, still after all these years, not one person has been brought to justice, or come out to speak the truth. Bill Clinton couldn't keep a BJ secret, and you want me to believe that AT A MINUMUM 500 people have kept the biggest false flag operation a secret?

I love this one. Kurt Sonnenfeld a former FEMA photographer is now a twoof celebrity.

I love this one. Debunkers ask where the whistleblowers are, then when the whistleblowers turn up, the debunkers call them twoofers. Damned if you do, and damned if you don't!

No, actually, when the other eyewitnesses came up to us and told us, and when the FAA starting informing us, then we knew it was a 767.

That, and when I heard the second come screaming into the other tower, and saw the huge explosion 1000' over my head, I knew we were under attack.

Don't try me son.

In other words, you didn't see either of the planes. Who told you planes hit? CNN? Harley Guy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21OnZaN2EWg

Who told the BBC's Steve Evans the first explosion was a plane? This is what he said in his report:

Initially the assumption was that it was a bomb. People have been coming past me now saying, no, it was an aircraft which hit the building.

Another eyewitness said: "No it was a bomb. Who said it was a second plane?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAJq1ejs2mQ

The reporter tells him: "That's what we're told, a second plane. We saw it on television".

It's called momentum. The piece of fuselage near the back of the plane was travelling forward. It hit the building and continued forward. It exited the building and continued forward and down. It hit the ground, and stopped.

So the question still stands. Do you understand what momentum is ace? Yes or no. It should be easy to answer. Why have you run away?

Dude. Momentum was invented by the NWO so they could plant plane parts safely away from the buildings when everybody else was fixated on them. WAKE UP!

What happens when momentum meets exploding jet fuel?

The 15 minutes in between attacks gave New Yorkers time to grab their camera and go outside to see WTF was going on. Hundreds of people videoed the second attack. If there were no planes, how could any human (vs. alien) organization manage to insert planes into every photo and video taken that day by the entire borough of Manhattan. That's just silly. If there were no planes..why were they pointing their camera at the sky where the planes were?

I can think of ten off the top of my head.

How many cameras are there in the entire borough of Manhattan? Why are there not more photos of the plane holes? They were sitting there for an hour or more begging to have their picture taken.

 

[BigAl]

I love this one. Debunkers ask where the whistleblowers are, then when the whistleblowers turn up, the debunkers call them twoofers. Damned if you do, and damned if you don't!

What, precisely has Sonnenfeld blown the whistle on? The best quote I know of from him is something like "I saw horrible things".

Damn, we all saw horrible things at WTC on and after 9/11.

What makes Sonnenfeld so special?

 

[TruthersLie]

I love this one. Debunkers ask where the whistleblowers are, then when the whistleblowers turn up, the debunkers call them twoofers. Damned if you do, and damned if you don't!

No i do't call him a twoof. I call him a wife murdering slime. He has never revealed any "inside jobby job" pictures or images. You may want to check that again... try again.

What happens when momentum meets exploding jet fuel?

Now why does the piece of the fuselage from the rear of the jet pass through the building in shreds and end up on the far side of the building? It is called momentum.

Lets look at momentum again shall we?


Where did the piece of steel end up again? Did it end up against the 50,000 lbs concrete block? Or was it much further past the concrete block? Huh twoof?

What happens when something strikes something else at a very high speed? What happens to that energy, and where do the debris go? (it is called momentum... look it up)

epic fail noted

exploding jet fuel wouldn't do much to that piece. That is the same reason there was debris from the jets all over the place.

Oh wait... you are one of those who doesn't believe that the jets could make it through the steel columns.



try again.

How many cameras are there in the entire borough of Manhattan? Why are there not more photos of the plane holes? They were sitting there for an hour or more begging to have their picture taken.

There were and are hundreds (if not thousands of individual images that were taken and uploaded to the internet of the damage ot the towers. Just do some basic research and you can find a whole bunch of them... in under a minute. You should try it.

Argument from ignorance noted. YOu really might want to do something about how ignorant you are.

 

[dafydd]

Argument from ignorance noted. YOu really might want to do something about how ignorant you are.

In my experience really ignorant people are never cognisant of their ignorance.