Split Thread 'Nose-out' footage

[twinstead]

Ouch. bardamu appears to be trying to lecture US about what is and isn't "hard evidence". Damn. Another broken irony meter. That was my last one! Does anybody have any spares?

 

[Arus808]

The stupidity that has spewed forth from your mouth is getting somewhat deep and smell alot like bovine excretement......

Easy to cure:

Left Click on bardamu's name, and click "Add bardamu to Your ignore list"

Again, No planers are not worth the electrons and headaches to argue with.

 

[DGM]

Ouch. bardamu appears to be trying to lecture US about what is and isn't "hard evidence". Damn. Another broken irony meter. That was my last one! Does anybody have any spares?

Use NWO requisition form 3375JG-A and cross out "mini-nuke" and write in "irony meter".

 

[twinstead]

Use NWO requisition form 3375JG-A and cross out "mini-nuke" and write in "irony meter".

Crap, I did that and submitted it, but now I fear that I inadvertently crossed out mini only and added irony. Should I be afraid to open the Irony-Nuke box when it comes?

 

[DGM]

Crap, I did that and submitted it, but now I fear that I inadvertently crossed out mini only and added irony. Should I be afraid to open the Irony-Nuke box when it comes?

It shouldn't be a problem........BTW...... where do you live?

 

[DavidJames]

It shouldn't be a problem........BTW...... where do you live?

Maybe at this point it should be where did you live

 

[twinstead]

Well, that's a fine how-do-you-do. Now I will have to move again because I destroyed yet ANOTHER city. This is worse than the time my severely dyslexic brother, who was a missile site operator, accidentally launched an ICBM and destroyed Larned, Kansas instead of turning the coffee maker on.

 

[Macgyver1968]

Well, that's a fine how-do-you-do. Now I will have to move again because I destroyed yet ANOTHER city. This is worse than the time my severely dyslexic brother, who was a missile site operator, accidentally launched an ICBM and destroyed Larned, Kansas instead of turning the coffee maker on.

You must have lived in Detroit at one time too.

ETA: Your new avatar disturbs me.

 

[Wolrab]

Easy to cure:

Left Click on bardamu's name, and click "Add bardamu to Your ignore list"

Again, No planers are not worth the electrons and headaches to argue with.

I've lost track, is this the third or forth time I've put ace on ignore?

 

[bardamu]

1. it wasn't an "explosion" in the middle of the plane...

The aircraft moving 500 mph hits a solid object, the aircraft is shredded, but the debris are now moving through the object they hit and the momentum is carrying that debris forward. It should go through the object (the building) nd parts of it will exit along the trajectory using the momentum.

There was a big jet fuel explosion inside the building which blew smoke and flames forward, sideways, and backwards through the same hole the plane had made. Can you suggest a plausible sequence of events that could account for a piece of fuselage from near the back of the plane being blown forward, out through a window and across the plaza?

It wasn't just threats. bin Laden directed attacks that killed hundreds of Americans in two US embassies in Africa (1998?) and then the bombing of the USS Cole (2000)

There is plenty of evidence tying bin Laden to the above and more.

You've changed the subject. We were talking about 9/11.

Well, yes, but not the kind of explosions you believe.

Teresa didn't mention a plane:

2001-09-11 08:51:37 Arch [1274589] D ALPHA
94-THE WORLD TRADE CENTER HAS JUST BLOWN UP, WE SEEN THE EXPLOSION OUTSIDE OUR WINDOWS. TERESA...

http://911.wikileaks.org/files/messages_2001_09_11-08_50_2001_09_11-08_54.html

Really? Explain where all those plane debris came from, and also, while you're at it, explain what made the sound of your "imaginary" plane that thousands of New Yorkers saw, MYSELF INCLUDED, as it crashed into the WTC?? Care to take a stab??

Plane parts were planted.

Huh?? Do you have, I dunno, evidence of this extraordinary claim??

All the evidence is in the 9/11 TV archives.

Oh, yeah, because we all know that known terrorists are ABSOLUTLY honest people, and are above reproach......

Why would Bin Laden deny involvement on the day then admit to it later?

I've lost track, is this the third or forth time I've put ace on ignore?

You flatter me.

 

[TruthersLie]

There was a big jet fuel explosion inside the building which blew smoke and flames forward, sideways, and backwards through the same hole the plane had made. Can you suggest a plausible sequence of events that could account for a piece of fuselage from near the back of the plane being blown forward, out through a window and across the plaza?

Truther LIE. If the plane had been sitting still, then it would be very interesting that an explosion throws a piece from the REAR of the plane past the front of the plane. absolutely amazing. But the Jet wasn't standing still. It was moving at 500mph. At that speed, the momentum of the 100 TON aircraft keeps moving forwards. It is a rather simple concept. (you must have missed that day in science class)

I have repeatedly. Are you ready twoofie? Here we go (again)
Nose in, engine out. You can clearly see it is the engine going through the building with the momentum. (you might want to look up what that word means)


and


and one of my favorites. Where does the metal sheet end up? At the car or well past it? It weighs less than the car. Why does the metal and the debris end up behind the car?



ETA: I can't leave out still images which explain it as well

The rest of your arguments from ignorance and incredulity are noted and rejected. You might want to do 10 minutes of real research before you try to pass of that crap.


from 210 on to about 240. What was that ejected from the impacting jet?

 

[bill smith]

Did you see what this guy had to say ?

'' Voltaire Network: What are your suspicions based on?
Kurt Sonnenfeld: There were many things, in hindsight, that were disturbing at Ground Zero. It was odd to me that I was dispatched to go to New York even before the second plane hit the South Tower, while the media was still reporting only that a “small plane” had collided with the North Tower — far too small of a catastrophe at that point to involve FEMA . FEMA was mobilized within minutes, whereas it took ten days for it to deploy to New Orleans to respond to Hurricane Katrina, even with abundant advance warning! It was odd to me that all cameras were so fiercely prohibited within the secured perimeter of Ground Zero, that the entire area was declared a crime scene and yet the “evidence” within that crime scene was so rapidly removed and destroyed. And then it was very odd to me when I learned that FEMA and several other federal agencies had already moved into position at their command center at Pier 92 on September 10th, one day before the attacks! ''

Rubber landing-gear tyres visible in evidence container marked “FBI Plane Parts Only.”

See photo in attached link .
http://www.voltairenet.org/article160636.html

 

[332nd]

Did you see what this guy had to say ?

'' Voltaire Network: What are your suspicions based on?
Kurt Sonnenfeld: There were many things, in hindsight, that were disturbing at Ground Zero. It was odd to me that I was dispatched to go to New York even before the second plane hit the South Tower, while the media was still reporting only that a “small plane” had collided with the North Tower — far too small of a catastrophe at that point to involve FEMA .

Exactly when does a catastrophe reach FEMA needed levels?

FEMA was mobilized within minutes, whereas it took ten days for it to deploy to New Orleans to respond to Hurricane Katrina, even with abundant advance warning!

Who was the director of FEMA on 9/11? Who was the director for Katrina?

It was odd to me that all cameras were so fiercely prohibited within the secured perimeter of Ground Zero,

Why would a camera be necessary during rescue operations? I mean he finds it odd that not essential personnel were removed/kept out? Really?

that the entire area was declared a crime scene and yet the “evidence” within that crime scene was so rapidly removed and destroyed.

Lie.

And then it was very odd to me when I learned that FEMA and several other federal agencies had already moved into position at their command center at Pier 92 on September 10th, one day before the attacks!

Really? Who?

 

[beachnut]

There was a big jet fuel explosion inside the building which blew smoke and flames forward, sideways, and backwards through the same hole the plane had made. Can you suggest a plausible sequence of events that could account for a piece of fuselage from near the back of the plane being blown forward, out through a window and across the plaza?
...
Plane parts were planted.
... Why would Bin Laden deny involvement on the day then admit to it later?

UBL said he did not do it so he could hide first; you must not have a big brother. The better question would be why you spew moronic delusions and lack evidence.

Plane parts were planted is a lie; why do you make up lies? A stupid lie at that.

How can a part of a plane end up where you think it should not? Are you completely without the ability to seek knowledge? When aircraft impact a building at 590 mph there parts of the plane can end up all over the place. Some parts or objects on the plane can survive, some are smashed up. If you took the time to use math and physics you have found the impact of Flight 175 was a 4,380,000,000 joule kinetic energy event (equal to 2,093 pounds of TNT). Parts can end up almost anywhere within hundreds to thousands of feet away. Ask a trained aircraft accident investigator like me; but you will not.

Your list of evidence to support your ideas on 911 is nonexistent.

 

[triforcharity]

Teresa didn't mention a plane:
http://911.wikileaks.org/files/messages_2001_09_11-08_50_2001_09_11-08_54.html

Ah, yes, how many minutes was that after the crash? 5 minutes? Yeah, I was there, and I didn't know it was a 767. We still thought it was a Cessna untill about 9am or so.

Nice try though.

Plane parts were planted.

In the sky? at ~500 MPH?? Holy **** the NWO is REALLY good!!

PS, how did these planted plane parts also make that much noise as they flew over my head?? Let me guess, Jedi mind tricks??

All the evidence is in the 9/11 TV archives.

And yet, still after all these years, not one person has been brought to justice, or come out to speak the truth. Bill Clinton couldn't keep a BJ secret, and you want me to believe that AT A MINUMUM 500 people have kept the biggest false flag operation a secret?

Yeah, keep trying.

Why would Bin Laden deny involvement on the day then admit to it later?

Why wouldn't he??

 

[bardamu]

Ah, yes, how many minutes was that after the crash? 5 minutes? Yeah, I was there, and I didn't know it was a 767. We still thought it was a Cessna untill about 9am or so.

Exactly. You were there and you didn't see the plane. You heard about it later on CNN, like all the other eyewitnesses.

And yet, still after all these years, not one person has been brought to justice, or come out to speak the truth. Bill Clinton couldn't keep a BJ secret, and you want me to believe that AT A MINUMUM 500 people have kept the biggest false flag operation a secret?

This kind of thing that happens to whistleblowers:

Kurt Sonnenfeld: Actually, there are several other very smart and credible people blowing whistles, too. And they are being discredited and ignored. Some are being harassed and persecuted, as I am.

People are gripped by fear. Everybody knows that if you question US authority you will have problems in some way or another. At minimum you will be discredited and dehumanized. Most likely you’ll find yourself indicted for something completely unrelated, like tax evasion — or something even worse, as in my case. Look at what happened to Secret Service whistle-blower Abraham Bolden, for example, or to chess master Bobby Fischer after he showed his disdain for the US. There are countless other examples. In the past I asked friends and associates to speak out for me to counter all the lies being planted in the media, and all of them were terrified as to the ramifications to themselves and their families.

http://www.voltairenet.org/article160636.html

UBL said he did not do it so he could hide first;

And once the bombs started dropping around him, he decided to brag about it?

 

[twinstead]

And once the bombs started dropping around him, he decided to brag about it?

You don't have a clue what you're talking about. Please don't blame the messenger.

 

[Macgyver1968]

So Bard, or Ace...how do you account for all of the amateur footage shot of the plane impact?

 

[fitzgibbon]

They're ALL in on it doanchaknow!

 

[beachnut]

... And once the bombs started dropping around him, he decided to brag about it?

UBL is proud to tell the truth unlike the liars known as 911Truth. When will you stop apologizing for murderers, the 19 terrorists who took credit for their act on video tape. You are evidence free and spewing delusions; what is your next trick after ignoring evidence for 8 years?



What is your point about the "nose-out" lies? Did you find some evidence to support your failed ideas after 8 years of failure? Why are you here supporting lies; here at a skeptic forum? You should start your own thread listing your evidence; the world’s shortest thread.

"nose-out" scam, one of many insane ideas by the failed movement with truth in the name to mislead the gullible.