Merged Continuation - 9/11 CT subforum General Discussion Thread

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bill smith said:
The lack of explosions in the audio of the 9/11 videos is the final line of defence for 9/11 debunkers.
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No it's actually our first, and most obvious, line of defence.

It's the one we've been pointing you to for years now and the one you've done nothing serious to refute.
 
The biggest question about 9/11 is not whether it was an inside job. The biggest question is why people in general are avoiding facing the facts.

This is the biggest public secret there hs ever been.

Is it really a good idea not to expose this ?
 
bill smith said:
The biggest question about 9/11 is not whether it was an inside job. The biggest question is why people in general are avoiding facing the facts.

This is the biggest public secret there hs ever been.

Is it really a good idea not to expose this ?
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Maybe you should face the facts and stop avoiding them. Then you'll understand why there is no secret other than the understanding that the 9/11 truth movement is simply in place to make money off the stupid.
 
The phrase "public secret" is an oxymoron.

And that's not even getting into the massive contradiction between this claim and bill smith's previous claims of a large and growing Truth™ Movement. Once again, if true, it speaks to the utter ineptitude of the 9/11 Truth™ Movement: millions of people know the secret, yet it still needs to be exposed. :rolleyes:
 
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The phrase "public secret" is an oxymoron.

And that's not even getting into the massive contradiction between this claim and bill smith's previous claims of a large and growing Truth™ Movement. Once again, if true, it speaks to the utter ineptitude of the 9/11 Truth™ Movement: millions of people know the secret, yet it still needs to be exposed. :rolleyes:
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QFT.

Bill, it's either public, or it's a secret (or neither). It can't be both.

I think you think it's a secret because you know deep down you don't understand it, because it's full of contradictions.

If you think it's public, you have to admit that it's failed at convincing anyone.

Lose/lose situation again, Bill.
 
bill smith said:
The biggest question about 9/11 is not whether it was an inside job. The biggest question is why people in general are avoiding facing the facts.

This is the biggest public secret there hs ever been.

Is it really a good idea not to expose this ?
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The biggest question is Billy Bob:

Do you have evidence or not to prove that 9/11's an "Inside Job"?

We're avoiding stupid facts from otherwise well misinformed Truthers.

Public secret? I wasn't aware that a secret was in full view of the public Billy Bob! Millions of people know the secret already!

Was the Manhattan Project kept secret? Nope!

Was the Assassinations of Abraham Lincoln & JFK kept secret? Nope!

Was our stealth aircraft kept secret? Nope!

Was the Swine Flu kept secret? Nope!

Was the attacks on September 11, 2001 kept secret? Nope!

Was the Antrax attacks kept secret? Nope!

Was the attacks on the U.S.S. Cole, U.S. Embassy Bombings & the 1993 WTC Bombing kept secret? Nope!

Was Area 51 kept secret? Nope!

So much for your "secret" theory Billy Bob!

Let's keep it civil....and use member names correctly. Your cooperation is greatly appreciated.
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Dave Rogers said:
Fixed that for you.

Dave
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Fix away. Childish stuff like that does not affect the substance of what I said.

It really is getting to be high time for a shift of focus away from the well established technical anomalies of 9/11 to an understanding of why the wider public do not seem to be keen to hold the government's feet to the fire.

Even Time magazine already in 2006 said that 9/11 Truth is now a 'mainstream political reality'. It's not like most people are completely unaware that there is a problem with the government story- it's more like they do not want to drag it into the light. They may not understand the deadly danger involved in allowing the powers that be to get away with this.
 
bill smith said:
Fix away. Childish stuff like that does not affect the substance of what I said.
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What's to affect?

bill smith said:
It really is getting to be high time for a shift of focus away from the well established technical anomalies of 9/11
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because the nonexistence of said technical anomalies is something of an embarrassment to those whose entire world view is based on faith in their existence.

bill smith said:
to an understanding of why the wider public do not seem to be keen to hold the government's feet to the fire.
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Perhaps because there isn't actually a fire there to hold its feet to?

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Even Time magazine already in 2006 said that 9/11 Truth is now a 'mainstream political reality'.
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Wow, three years ago. So how did that mainstream political reality turn out for you? Have there been any major political events - elections, say - in the meantime by which you could gauge the importance of the issue? If so, how much of a role did the issue play?

Oh, yes. I forgot. None whatsoever.

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It's not like most people are completely unaware that there is a problem with the government story- it's more like they do not want to drag it into the light.
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I suspect it's more like that they realise that the problem is purely imaginary.

Dave
 
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What's to affect?



because the nonexistence of said technical anomalies is something of an embarrassment to those whose entire world view is based on faith in their existence.



Perhaps because there isn't actually a fire there to hold its feet to?



Wow, three years ago. So how did that mainstream political reality turn out for you? Have there been any major political events - elections, say - in the meantime by which you could gauge the importance of the issue? If so, how much of a role did the issue play?

Oh, yes. I forgot. None whatsoever.



I suspect it's more like that they realise that the problem is purely imaginary.

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Why are you on this forum at all Dave ? I mean I have the excuse of being somebody who is outraged and scandalised that the American government could have murdered 3,000 of it's own citizens- but you- you are a world reknowned British physicist and author.

I cannot see any reason why you would be here almost every day for years on end fighting for the government version of 9/11. It's not really canny whichever way I look at it.
 
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bill smith said:
It really is getting to be high time for a shift of focus away from the well established technical anomalies of 9/11 to an understanding of why the wider public do not seem to be keen to hold the government's feet to the fire.
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Because most people are not truthers.

Most people do not believe that 9/11 was an inside job.

Most people leave things like science to scientists and engineering to engineers....

Most people don't armchair quarterback about these topics or other topics they know little to nothing about....like the intelligence community.

The bottom line is that for most people truthers are a fringe group at best and completely mentally insane at worst.

bill smith said:
Even Time magazine already in 2006 said that 9/11 Truth is now a 'mainstream political reality'. It's not like most people are completely unaware that there is a problem with the government story- it's more like they do not want to drag it into the light. They may not understand the deadly danger involved in allowing the powers that be to get away with this.
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Time magazine? Well then is MUST be true!:rolleyes:

Honestly Bill.....what impact is 9/11 truth having on anything...political or otherwise?

Ive never even encountered a "truther" in real life....only on the internet.
 
bill smith said:
Why are you on this forum at all Dave ? I mean I have the excuse of being somebody who is outraged and scandalised that the American government could have murdered 3,000 of it's own citizens- but you- you are a world reknowned British physicist and author.
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It's kind of unfair, isn't it? To make things even worse, he often has logic, science, and evidence on his side. With adversaries like those, it must be hard for ordinary citizens to learn the TruthTM about who murdered all those people.

Will
 
bill smith said:
Why are you on this forum at all Dave ? I mean I have the excuse of being somebody who is outraged and scandalised that the American government could have murdered 3,000 of it's own citizens- but you- you are a world reknowned British physicist and author.

I cannot see any reason why you would be here almost every day for years on end fighting for the government version of 9/11. It's not really canny whichever way I look at it.
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You have an excuse? But Billy Bob you've got no evidence to have an excuse. You've got no evidence that the U.S. Government "murdered" nearly 3,000 people. That's not an excuse, that's an outright accusation based on what you to believe are fairy stories.

The Official Report has evidence & is the only version of events that's been proven scientifically. Of course you wouldn't know about science Billy Bob.
 
9/11 Chewie...

umm I hate to say this.. but there is no "official report." There is no Official theory.

There is the common narrative agreed upon by 98% of the world that 19 islamic terrorists hijacked 4 jets, flew 3 of them into buildings and crashed the other one in a field in penn.

There are several investigative reports which were gathered by various government agencies, but there is no "official report."
 
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