Naudet Documentary On Google Video

KreeL said:
I see no crash in that video.

Where's the video taken by a tourist of FL77 hitting the Pentagon. Thousands of hand held video cameras everywhere in D.C., and surely you understand that the Pentagon is one of the most filmed structures in the right?
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How many people take cameras to baseball games? Lots, and they have been for as long as cameras and baseball have existed.

Have we ever seen the baseball in motion taken by anything but a special camera?

I've never seen one. Maybe, but it's exceedingly rare.

How old are you? The number of cameras in everyday use use has exploded only since 2001. Prior to 2001, I had one but took out only for events. Now I have two and one is with me all the time.
 
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KreeL said:
Not a chance. That's wasn't just one coincidence. That was dozens of coincidences rolled up into one unbelievable package. I believe in the old thread given here by a poster earlier that Mr(s) Leslie and Ubinger reported 60+(?) coincidences?

Far too many to even be considered 'luck' by a rational human being. How many coincidences does it take for you to doubt the validity of any story?
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"Rational" humans don;t believe in coincidences in the sense you believe in them.

In reality, everything is a coincidence. There is nobody in charge and handing out scripts for reality.

What let Naudet get his shot was (a) he had his camera out and powered up at and running already, (b) he heard the plane coming a couple seconds before it came into view and (c) he had the instinct to point the camera were the action was going to be and not to try to track the object.
 
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KreeL said:
No. I am unlike you in that regard. But coincidences being evident in the film, wouldn't that clue you in that the coincidences were a farce also? Being that you seem to understand logic, I was wanting your take on that aspect.
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Do you think that Naudet and the firemen he was with were working from scripts? That is the logical conclusion of your assertion.

That would make the firemen part of the coverup.
 
AJM8125 said:
I have one last question but I don't expect to get a response as KreeL seems to have me on ignore, so I'll just put it out there for kicks and giggles: Are you going to run back to the other forum and tell them that you pwned us in this thread too?

http://www.muzzlefree.com/politics-...jref-for-pwning-a-bunch-of-guvtardz-t1789.htm
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That is unbelievably hilarious! I was going to educate Kreel on the Law of Truly Large Numbers, but then I got to see the brilliance that is "Re: LOL - I got suspended at JREF for pwning a bunch of guvtardz."

"KreeL's the name - pwning tardz is my game."

Reminds me of and old response to a troll that starts like this:

"I imagine you sitting in your parent's- no grandmother's- basement, with some kind of headset apparatus on your acne pocked melon, snorting with laughter. Your potato fingers stab at an oversized keypad and suddenly your only friend in the world, Gnuyn your pen pal from Cambodia, answers the phone and you grunt to him in your exclusive made-up pet language that he should check out jref.com and read my post....."

Just another beautiful day in the life of Kreel
 
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Mangoose said:
The crash of AA11 into WTC1 was recorded by the following people:

1. Jules Naudet (+ audio, + video)
2. Pavel Hlava (- audio, + video)
3. Wolfgang Staehle (- audio, + video, streamed realtime as still images)
4. Dick Oliver/WNYW crew (+ audio, - video)
5. Ginny Carr (+ audio, - video)

Pre-impact video of the WTC was also broadcast live on 9/11 on CBS (the Early Show), maybe by other stations as well. John Labriola took some pre-impact photos of the WTC on 9/11, just minutes before the crash of AA11. There was also a live webcam from the ESB that streamed on the internet and possibly picked up video of AA11 and its crash. I have framegrabs of the ESB webcam broadcasting the WTC after the crash of UA175.
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A couple of minor additions;

There's a pre impact photo in this anonymous set here: http://www.larrygc.com/wtc.html

Video filmed under 15s after AA11 crashed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh1L2ew5-Ok
 
KreeL said:
Why didn't the morning news camera guy pick up his camera and film the impact? Oh, of course, it was running, but he wasn't holding it. Stranger still, he couldn't see the face of WTC1 that was impacted. He also didn't film any crowd reaction, but got some audio. There were cameras in NYC. Only ONE being held in the middle of a street, turned on, and all ready and waiting to capture MoneyShot I.

Nice non-existant link there concerning Rodriguez, bigAl. Try again.

The film "911" could be considered the most blatant use of staged propaganda in the history of the world. MoneyShots I-VII -- all there.
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More nonsense. There is nothing strange about not being able to see part of the North Tower. You are either a liar or blind because in the WNYW video you quite clearly see people stop in their tracks and turn around when the plane hits, with a woman shouting 'oh it's exploded!'.
 
16.5 said:
That is unbelievably hilarious! I was going to educate Kreel on the Law of Truly Large Numbers, but then I got to see the brilliance that is "Re: LOL - I got suspended at JREF for pwning a bunch of guvtardz."

"KreeL's the name - pwning tardz is my game."

Reminds me of and old response to a troll that starts like this:

"I imagine you sitting in your parent's- no grandmother's- basement, with some kind of headset apparatus on your acne pocked melon, snorting with laughter. Your potato fingers stab at an oversized keypad and suddenly your only friend in the world, Gnuyn your pen pal from Cambodia, answers the phone and you grunt to him in your exclusive made-up pet language that he should check out jref.com and read my post....."

Just another beautiful day in the life of Kreel
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Oh....so glad you edited. I'm going to have nightmares tonight.
 
Here is the pre-impact shot of the Twin Towers mentioned earlier: CBS The Early Show

And this is an example from the ESB webcam showing the area that it displays...I have other frame grabs of it zoomed onto the Towers after the two plane crashes. I am not certain, but it is probable that it streamed the crash of AA11 live if anyone was watching on the internet.
 
KreeL said:
Why didn't the morning news camera guy pick up his camera and film the impact? Oh, of course, it was running, but he wasn't holding it. Stranger still, he couldn't see the face of WTC1 that was impacted. He also didn't film any crowd reaction, but got some audio. There were cameras in NYC. Only ONE being held in the middle of a street, turned on, and all ready and waiting to capture MoneyShot I.

Nice non-existant link there concerning Rodriguez, bigAl. Try again.

The film "911" could be considered the most blatant use of staged propaganda in the history of the world. MoneyShots I-VII -- all there.
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Now I understand why America is broke, we've been spending way too much money secret agent salaries. It's obvious from this post that every second person in New York City is a top secret dis-info agent placed there to keep the PSYOP going.

People don't see things in New York City, they only think they do.
 
Here's a kicker: In the brain-damaged world of truthers, there is yet another conspiracy! Yup, since the only direct images of the Flt 11 impact are from foreigners...who have brothers, this is also part of the 'disinfo' campaign.

I had to read it to believe it. These truther numbnuts are really something to behold - there really ARE no coincidences in twooferland, there are no random events, and the 'men in black' and the NWO control EVERYTHING.

Who knows? I may even by a NWO staffer in their minds! :D
 
BTW, I don't think the plane is visible in that specific Hlava frame. It is behind the wall in that frame but comes into view immediately afterward, shining brightly reflecting the morning sun.

But yeah, totally agree with you :)
 
Klimax said:
Looks like we Czechs are on the conspiracy as well.

Hey,NWO care to send us more money?
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I've looked into raises and other awards for the NWO Eastern European Command and it would appear that you're not entitled to any more money. On the bright side, you do appear to be eligible for valuable coupons redeemable at any Hormel meat processing plant worldwide. How lucky for you! Maybe you won't need to travel far?
 
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My question is why would they even need to fake/setup this documentary? From a benefit/risk viewpoint it would of been a monumentally stupid idea. Is there any fact in his film that isn't available from other sources? Then why take the chance of adding more people to your operation that could be discovered either before or after the attack.
 
Woody- said:
My question is why would they even need to fake/setup this documentary? From a benefit/risk viewpoint it would of been a monumentally stupid idea. Is there any fact in his film that isn't available from other sources? Then why take the chance of adding more people to your operation that could be discovered either before or after the attack.
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Precisely. That's why this entire thread is so ridiculous! KreeL has utterly failed to establish any motive for such an elaborate scheme, let alone establish any evidence for it.

It's a double-fail for KreeL. That's a heady achievement.

As I mentioned above, there are even twoofers who are claiming a conspiracy with ALL the video footage of Flt 11. Yes, they are that stupid. We have definitive proof! Oi Vay.
 
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