Milk CAUSES osteoporosis??

[Old Bob]

You have no idea what you're talking about do you?
"Polarity"? "Super Phosphate"? Where do you dig this stuff out from?

From a very long time of study on my father's questions on cattle health and what they lack because we didn't know what the effects of superphosphate were. A smart man called Percy Weston (long dead) developed a cancer cure (his writings are on the net) based on phosphate problems. Eg. Every spring hundreds of cattle die of bloat in Victoria (Aus) my father thought they lacked mineral because they chewed the trees, he fed extra magnesium and dropped our loses by some 90%. The reason that the cattle got bloat was the s. phosphate tied up the minerals and released fluoride in the spring grasses causing one type of gastric bacteria to die and another type to flourish creating gas that can kill the animal. Ok back to the calcium, it's all tied in and the over view is not what we are taught. Polarity of mineral has to be right for our bodies to except. Maybe I think different to you.

 

[jon]

The levels of dishonesty is disgusting.
Here is the actual journal article:
http://www.orthomolecular.org/library/jom/1998/pdf/1998-v13n02-p089.pdf
It specifically looks at a high protein diet(>30g/day) and has nothing to do with milk intake. I'm not going to go into the paper because it is simply terrible. To get the protein-urea cycle wrong and other basic science wrong so blantantly is laughable.

Mis-citing a *Journal of Orthomolecular Medicine* article has to be a new low... The Journal's 'peer review' process doesn't even seem to ensure proper reporting of methods and results.

I mean, surely they could have picked an article in a better journal to misrepresent

 

[pgwenthold]

Calcium from cow's milk? don't think we get much as it is the wrong polarity so someone said.

Wrong polarity?

What do you mean "wrong polarity"? They are calcium cations (dications, to be specific), just like you will find calcium in almost every other condensed phase source.

 

[Old Bob]

Wrong polarity?

What do you mean "wrong polarity"? They are calcium cations (dications, to be specific), just like you will find calcium in almost every other condensed phase source.

AS I understand everything down in the particle world has either + or - charge. Ok not everything. Neutrons don't have a charge. WE need minerals that have a - charge to stick to our + electrons. No doubt some one who has had schooling will say "not quite right" Perhaps they can explain it clearer. Plants change minerals from + to - so as I said earlier, feed the plants minerals that we need then we can use them. Plants eg. lettuce can look good but be lacking in the things we need because the minerals are not present or are tied up by super phospate.

 

[Professor Yaffle]

AS I understand everything down in the particle world has either + or - charge. Ok not everything. Neutrons don't have a charge. WE need minerals that have a - charge to stick to our + electrons. No doubt some one who has had schooling will say "not quite right" Perhaps they can explain it clearer. Plants change minerals from + to - so as I said earlier, feed the plants minerals that we need then we can use them. Plants eg. lettuce can look good but be lacking in the things we need because the minerals are not present or are tied up by super phospate.

Where do you get this stuff from???

 

[pgwenthold]

AS I understand everything down in the particle world has either + or - charge. Ok not everything. Neutrons don't have a charge. WE need minerals that have a - charge to stick to our + electrons. No doubt some one who has had schooling will say "not quite right" Perhaps they can explain it clearer. Plants change minerals from + to -

OK, that makes things a lot more clear. You don't have a clue.

You should come to my chemistry lecture on Thursday. You might learn something about the structure of the atom.

 

[Hellbound]

pgwenthold:

Actually, if he has positive electrons, you may not want him anywhere near your location...

 

[pgwenthold]

pgwenthold:

Actually, if he has positive electrons, you may not want him anywhere near your location...

Oh don't worry. Positrons won't last long in a universe full of matter.

 

[Hellbound]

Oh don't worry. Positrons won't last long in a universe full of matter.

I'm just a-feared he may have negative protons to go with...

I wonder if he has a magnetic bubble?

 

[tyr_13]

First site is woo, second site is PETA. I wouldn’t worry.

PETA level woo is very woo indeed.

 

[tyr_13]

Why does so much woo come back to anti-matter to work? And not just anti matter but magic kinds that only booms out of existence some things and not others?

 

[Hellbound]

Woo relies on areas of science that are poorly understood by the layman. That allows them to use lots of scientificy words like "anti-matter" and "quantum" that make them sound like they actually have a clue, while removing the need for them to actually understand any real science (cause that's, like, hard, you know?).

 

[pgwenthold]

Why does so much woo come back to anti-matter to work? And not just anti matter but magic kinds that only booms out of existence some things and not others?

To be fair, Bob hasn't been the one to bring up anti-matter, at least not explicitly. He is just so clueless that that he doesn't realize that is what he is saying.

 

[Old Bob]

Here we go again, "no understanding, layman,you don't have a clue." Ego seems to grow in those who have letters after there name."How can I be wrong someone told me at Uni." That lecturer was molded by the system and his pay check reflects how well he steers the students to fit the future money trains. (school, work struggle save get sick and old, hand wealth back to medical system then die) We(most) have been led down the garden path, with twisted half truths. Can you beat cancer? I have. Another thing about milk is homogenised. Want your arteries blocked? The fat particles are broken up so small that they slip into our blood streams before our stomach juices has time to process and break down the fat. And if young calves are fed on parsterized milk they die because the heated milk loses all its vitamins. Good stuff that white water you buy in plastic, leaching pcb and false estrogen. Is that taught at Uni.? TRY 13 may just be right we are expanding, matter is constantly created.

 

[Emerson Street]

Here we go again, "no understanding, layman,you don't have a clue." Ego seems to grow in those who have letters after there name."How can I be wrong someone told me at Uni." That lecturer was molded by the system and his pay check reflects how well he steers the students to fit the future money trains. (school, work struggle save get sick and old, hand wealth back to medical system then die) We(most) have been led down the garden path, with twisted half truths. Can you beat cancer? I have. Another thing about milk is homogenised. Want your arteries blocked? The fat particles are broken up so small that they slip into our blood streams before our stomach juices has time to process and break down the fat. And if young calves are fed on parsterized milk they die because the heated milk loses all its vitamins. Good stuff that white water you buy in plastic, leaching pcb and false estrogen. Is that taught at Uni.? TRY 13 may just be right we are expanding, matter is constantly created.

Do you have a version of this post in English?

 

[paximperium]

Here we go again, "no understanding, layman,you don't have a clue." Ego seems to grow in those who have letters after there name."How can I be wrong someone told me at Uni."

As opposed to an uneducated making statements with no evidence and absolutely no understanding?

That lecturer was molded by the system and his pay check reflects how well he steers the students to fit the future money trains. (school, work struggle save get sick and old, hand wealth back to medical system then die) We(most) have been led down the garden path, with twisted half truths.

What a load of utter paranoid deluded garbage? Man you are very proud of being uneducated, ignorant and paranoid aren't you?

Can you beat cancer? I have.

How? Please provide evidence.

Another thing about milk is homogenised. Want your arteries blocked? The fat particles are broken up so small that they slip into our blood streams before our stomach juices has time to process and break down the fat.

Fat is not digested in the stomach but are broken down into very very small tiny fat globules by bile before being broken down into smaller and smaller fatty acids to be SURPRISE slip into you blood capillaries in your gut for absorption.

And if young calves are fed on parsterized milk they die because the heated milk loses all its vitamins. Good stuff that white water you buy in plastic, leaching pcb and false estrogen.

Evidence of any of your wild claims?

Is that taught at Uni.?

Why should it? Where did you read it from? Let me guess, the Internet?

TRY 13 may just be right we are expanding, matter is constantly created.

In english please, that was not coherent.

 

[Eos of the Eons]

The fat particles are broken up so small that they slip into our blood streams before our stomach juices has time to process and break down the fat.

ROFLMAO!!! Not even a basic understanding of human anatomy and the digestive tract.

nd if young calves are fed on parsterized milk they die because the heated milk loses all its vitamins.

No they don't die if fed pasteurized milk. Where do you get this stuff???? Please offer up your sources of information. PLEASE.

 

[Old Bob]

ROFLMAO!!! Not even a basic understanding of human anatomy and the digestive tract.



No they don't die if fed pasteurized milk. Where do you get this stuff???? Please offer up your sources of information. PLEASE.

Have you had a rural upbringing, have you had hands on? And yes they will die on pasteurized milk. Paximperium I may not had the schooling you have had, but I don't have tunnel vison and my info in this case came from the strugle of life, not the internet. Eos seeing you know so much please explain how fat colects on artries and the difference between LDL and HDL . Also how I beat cancer, sorry have no "understanding of human anatomy"

 

[Eos of the Eons]

Have you had a rural upbringing

I suppose my college education COULD be inferior to your self-learned rural experiences. Thing is, tit for tat semantics are really just going to lead us into ridiculous circular arguments.

Please do go on and tell us how you beat cancer. By drinking unpasteurized milk perhaps?

Then show us the study where calfs died drinking unpasteurized milk. Your personal anecdote is hugely unconvincing for a variety of reasons.

Why don't you demonstrate how fat leaks into "artries" from the stomach???

Why don't you know that stomach juices don't process or break down fats?

 

[Old Bob]

Snarl mail seems to be how it is, my cousin owns huge dairies and knowledge on calf rearing is handed down, they don't even bother with a computer. Her husband buys his port by the oak cask, life is pretty creamy for them. (pun) Don't you think they would know. Some body has to know things to teach the teachers and it's not all on a bloody computer. Think I don't know about bile and fat? ok think what you like. Hope some of you don't speak to your partners like you do here, divorce would be on the cards.