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Bigfoot: The Invisible Variety

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I cannot imagine that there were many EDITORS at the time, who would attempt to burn a scarlet letter into Carter's forehead, for acknowledging the bigfoot's existence.
So then you concede that there would have been at least one editor, with knowledge of this Carter event, that would have reported on it?
 
I find extremely interesting the fact that so far, no bigfoot proponent came forward and said something like "I also remember Carter's speech on bigfoot" or at least "I heard about it from someone else". The same is valid for Hawkins alleged participation.

Specially when you take in to account the trivia some of them are able to remember regarding bigfoot and all things related.

Specially when you take in to account the strenght such statements would bring to their cause.

I say the fraudulent posters are not Locknar and Spektator...
 
Bigfoot is a fact of life. Playing mind games on the internet in regard to digging up proof of whether a high profile person made comments in regard to Bigfoot, is ludicrous. An Editor's job involves DELETING embarassing comments made by high profile persons, from the public record. Since you teenagers are not aware of this policy, your logic then kicks in to come to the highly uninformed conclusion that the record does not exist. Hawking was at UC Berkeley during at least the fall term of 1974. I have no idea who was paying him to be there, nor did I make any representation as to who was paying him. So well hidden payroll or registrar records will prove nothing. I personally saw him there frequently. My friends all saw him there and some had their pictures taken with him. But all this is essentially irrelevant, because the public record is merely a tangent as to the subject of the Bigfoot's presence on this planet, and their interdimensinal invisibility. Which you teenagers, have not taken the time to ascertain in the field, at night, with no flashlight, no buddy along, and no prior instruction as to how to deal with whatever develops. All of which, I have done.
 
Bigfoot is a fact of life.
As a mythical beast, I'd agree...much as Dragons, Trolls, Unicorns and other mythical creatures are.

As a real life creature, as you have proivded no proof to support this claim, I'd have to disagree.

An Editor's job involves DELETING embarassing comments made by high profile persons, from the public record. Since you teenagers are not aware of this policy, your logic then kicks in to come to the highly uninformed conclusion that the record does not exist.
This suggests that EVERY EDITOR with knowledge of this event chose not to report on it? It seems highly unlikely there was not at least one Republican Editor that would not have jumped at the chance ot make Carter & the Democrats look foolish.

How did you hear about Carters statements? Did you see him make them live in person, on TV, read about it, etc?

As to embarassing moments...let's take a look at that shall we; going back to Pres Ford, the media frequently showed him falling down stairs, or say making many golf faux pau's such as hitting folks with his balls.

Pres Bush threw up at an official dinner in Japan in 1992, with the then Prime Minister cradeling his head for several minutes before he was able to get up on his own.

Pres Clinton and his "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" speach....current day Pres Bush and his many prounciation gaffs, or say his speach when talking about Gynecologists "practicing their love for woman".

All these seem pretty darn embarassing...and all reported in the press. Why would the media be so keen on sparing Carter...espeically given as unpopular as he was after he left office?

Hawking was at UC Berkeley during at least the fall term of 1974.
So you have changed your claim? You have been adamant that he was an Associate Professor at Berkely...now you claim he was simply there?

Which you teenagers, have not taken the time to ascertain in the field, at night, with no flashlight, no buddy along, and no prior instruction as to how to deal with whatever develops. All of which, I have done.
Several of us have asked for your help in this area, which you have declined to provide other then suggesting taunting may result in an attack. Those of us that tried it, all reported no atacks took place.

So do tell....what "prior instruction as to how to deal with whatever develops" can you give us? What is your protocol for conducting field research?
 
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I'm no teenager, historian. I've spent plenty of time in the woods, alone and not alone. Never met a bigfoot. I'd love to remedy that, but get no help from you. Is there some kind of treat I could leave out for them?
 
Which you teenagers, have not taken the time to ascertain in the field, at night, with no flashlight, no buddy along, and no prior instruction as to how to deal with whatever develops. All of which, I have done.

Wrong, daddy. I've spent quite a bit of time alone in the woods - remote woods. I've been surprised by bears on the trail, I've accidentally spooked bobcats from their dens, I've gone over a week without seeing or hearing another human, I've had my camp site invaded by.... skunks! I've always had a flashlight for emergencies, but rarely used it (amazing how well you can see once you get used to the dark).

But, no bigfoot and no bigfoot sign. Why does he fear me so?

Next time I guess I need to bring some peyote with me....
 
I was also invaded by skunks once and that's when I learned I could fly :yikes:

Of course, I can only fly when there's a skunk beneath my hammock because skunks are catalyst creatures for flying power :shy: I hear snakes are catalysts too!
 
As a mythical beast, I'd agree...much as Dragons, Trolls, Unicorns and other mythical creatures are.

As a real life creature, as you have proivded no proof to support this claim, I'd have to disagree.


This suggests that EVERY EDITOR with knowledge of this event chose not to report on it? It seems highly unlikely there was not at least one Republican Editor that would not have jumped at the chance ot make Carter & the Democrats look foolish.

How did you hear about Carters statements? Did you see him make them live in person, on TV, read about it, etc?

As to embarassing moments...let's take a look at that shall we; going back to Pres Ford, the media frequently showed him falling down stairs, or say making many golf faux pau's such as hitting folks with his balls.

Pres Bush threw up at an official dinner in Japan in 1992, with the then Prime Minister cradeling his head for several minutes before he was able to get up on his own.

Pres Clinton and his "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" speach....current day Pres Bush and his many prounciation gaffs, or say his speach when talking about Gynecologists "practicing their love for woman".

All these seem pretty darn embarassing...and all reported in the press. Why would the media be so keen on sparing Carter...espeically given as unpopular as he was after he left office?


So you have changed your claim? You have been adamant that he was an Associate Professor at Berkely...now you claim he was simply there?


Several of us have asked for your help in this area, which you have declined to provide other then suggesting taunting may result in an attack. Those of us that tried it, all reported no atacks took place.

So do tell....what "prior instruction as to how to deal with whatever develops" can you give us? What is your protocol for conducting field research?

Hawking was never simply there. Hawking was there for a specific purpose. I had no interest in whatever paperwork was involved in him being there. Nor should I have. Your STUPID accusations are a complete joke.

Absolutely no end to the STUPID questions that have all been answered before. Go back to page one and start reading again. Rumor has it that President Ford declared Bigfoot top secret. So, try and follow me on this, if a President mentions something that is top secret, chances are that it will be deleted from the public record. Certainly not even in the same ball park as puking or tripping. Of course, I have to take the time to explain this to you teenagers, since you cannot figure it our for yourselves. Furthermore, since you are still posting to the internet, then you still have not put in the time in the field.

Protocol? I have recorded bigfoot calls, but you will not be able to get those. So try this. Hang raw meat from nearby trees, that are maybe 20 yards from your tent. Then go to sleep. See if something comes by to either a.) eat you when the raw meat is more easier to get to, or b.) it comes by to wake you up and then scare you away so that it can eat the raw meat without you being there, or c.) it just goes for the raw meat right off and forgets about you.

If what transpires is:
a.) then I don't know what is that stupid
b.) if the scarey noise is a loud branch break, or a pulling on a large branch until it snaps or of something repeatedly striking trees or brush with a large stick, or rocks being thrown, or howling like you have never heard before, then that is a possible bigfoot
c.) then that is a possible bear, coyote, mountain lion, cougar, wolverine, weasel, rodent, etc.

Then get back to me.
 
If what transpires is:
a.) then I don't know what is that stupid
b.) if the scarey noise is a loud branch break, or a pulling on a large branch until it snaps or of something repeatedly striking trees or brush with a large stick, or rocks being thrown, or howling like you have never heard before, then that is a possible bigfoot
c.) then that is a possible bear, coyote, mountain lion, cougar, wolverine, weasel, rodent, etc.

Then get back to me.

So, if you put out bait and something takes the bait, then its not bigfoot. But if the bait is not taken, then its possibly bigfoot? WTF?

I wish I could catch fish like that.
 
By the way, Dr. Stephen Hawking's salary for the 1974-1975 school year was not directly paid by Caltech, but through the Sherman Fairchild Distinguished Scholarship. You could look it up.

Here's a non-American source:http://www.guether.de/hawking/

A relevant portion:

Im März 1974 bereits wurde er im Alter von 32 Jahren in die Royal Society aufgenommen.....

Bald darauf erhielt Stephen Hawking eine Einladung vom California Institute of Technology (Caltech) in Pasadena. Ein Sherman Fairchild Distinguished Scholarship finanzierte ihm ein Forschungsjahr für gemeinsame kosmologische Studien mit dem Physiker Kip Thorne. Caltech ist im Gegensatz zu Cambridge natürlich ein recht unorthodoxer Ort. Die ganze Familie zog für das Jahr mit nach Kalifornien (was sie sehr genossen). Im Caltech lernte Hawking den Physiker Don Page kennen, mit dem er später viel zusammenarbeiten sollte.

My translation:

In March of 1974 he had already been accepted at the age of 32 years into the Royal Society.....

Shortly afterward Stephen Hawking received an invitation from the California Institute of Technology (Caltech) in Pasadena. A Sherman Fairchild Distinguished Scholarship financed one year of research for him for cosmological studies with the physicist Kip Thorne. Caltech, in contrast to Cambridge, is naturally quite unothrodox. The whole family moved for the year to California (which they greatly enjoyed). At Caltech Hawking became acquainted with the physicist Don Page, with whom he would later collaborate.
 
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Hawking was never simply there. Hawking was there for a specific purpose. I had no interest in whatever paperwork was involved in him being there. Nor should I have. Your STUPID accusations are a complete joke.
That was not the question; you've contended Hawking was there in the roll of Associate Professor. Now you apparently have changed your claim, in so far that he was not there in that roll. Which is it?

As to "no interest in whatever paperwork" blah blah blah...so you have no interest in documentation, and say you are a researcher?

You've said Hawking made Bigfoot statements, yet can offer no supporting evidence; no dates, times, locations, witnesses, etc.

Absolutely no end to the STUPID questions that have all been answered before. Go back to page one and start reading again. Rumor has it that President Ford declared Bigfoot top secret. So, try and follow me on this, if a President mentions something that is top secret, chances are that it will be deleted from the public record. Certainly not even in the same ball park as puking or tripping. Of course, I have to take the time to explain this to you teenagers, since you cannot figure it our for yourselves. Furthermore, since you are still posting to the internet, then you still have not put in the time in the field.
How would you come to know what Pres Ford may have classified?

Secondly, you initially claimed editors would not report Carters claim as so not to embarrass him...now you've changed your claim, stating they did not because it is classified. Which is it?

How did you learn about the Bigfoot claim you said Carter made?

Protocol? I have recorded bigfoot calls, but you will not be able to get those. So try this. Hang raw meat from nearby trees, that are maybe 20 yards from your tent. Then go to sleep. See if something comes by to either a.) eat you when the raw meat is more easier to get to, or b.) it comes by to wake you up and then scare you away so that it can eat the raw meat without you being there, or c.) it just goes for the raw meat right off and forgets about you.

If what transpires is:
a.) then I don't know what is that stupid
b.) if the scarey noise is a loud branch break, or a pulling on a large branch until it snaps or of something repeatedly striking trees or brush with a large stick, or rocks being thrown, or howling like you have never heard before, then that is a possible bigfoot
c.) then that is a possible bear, coyote, mountain lion, cougar, wolverine, weasel, rodent, etc.

Then get back to me.
Certianly you know the difference between "protocol" and "call"; if not, try dictionary.com and look them up.

So why won't you share your Bigfoot audio?
 
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An Editor's job involves DELETING embarassing comments made by high profile persons, from the public record.
Paging Mr. Orwell. :rolleyes:
An editor's job, should you care to know, does not involve going back through history and altering news a la 1984.
Since you teenagers are not aware of this policy, your logic then kicks in to come to the highly uninformed conclusion that the record does not exist.
A- Not a teenager. Have a teenage son, if that's an age clue for you.
B- The "policy" does not exist. The "record" also does not exist. Your evidence of existence is that it doesn't exist line of argument is ridiculous. Hence the ridicule.

But all this is essentially irrelevant
No, it is quite relevent to the discussion of your ability to back up a single, solitary fact of your endless :words: here. You are claiming that some magical creature exists and that people from political and scientific circles are well aware of it, and yet you have bothered to share a single shred of support aside from claims and :words: and more claims.

Which you teenagers, have not taken the time to ascertain in the field, at night, with no flashlight, no buddy along, and no prior instruction as to how to deal with whatever develops All of which, I have done.
No, some "teenagers" here are quite familiar with "the field".
Your bigfoot does not exist.
 
Rumor has it that President Ford declared Bigfoot top secret. So, try and follow me on this, if a President mentions something that is top secret, chances are that it will be deleted from the public record.

Again, RUMOR has it. No evidence, facts, support or anything. You then use this RUMOR as proof that there is a cover up. Your stories are getting more and more insane by the second. Now this makes all branches of the Government, Foreign countries, ROTC, Universities and now the media is involved in a coverup to conceal the top secret existence of a dimension shifting creature. Get help.

Of course, I have to take the time to explain this to you teenagers, since you cannot figure it our for yourselves.

a) Not a teenager.
b) This is a typical response from somebody that has lost the debate. They start to call names and make wild claims.
 
No teen here either. I've got four children who are teens though. Another five are in their twenties. I doubt any of them would believe in invisible bigfoot.

Interesting that you keep prattling on about Berkeley historian, and everyone knowing about the captured bigfeet that could walk through walls. I came across an applicable quote while looking up some Unix info earlier today. From the Unix Haters Handbook --

"Two of the most famous products of Berkeley are LSD and Unix. I don't think that is a coincidence." -
RayG
 
So why won't you share your Bigfoot audio?

I sell homemade bigfoot calling systems, similar to my own, with one power strike and one alleged male howl, for $2000 a pop. Which includes 4 speakers. Buyers use at their own risk. No instructions are included.
 
No teen here either. I've got four children who are teens though. Another five are in their twenties. I doubt any of them would believe in invisible bigfoot.

Interesting that you keep prattling on about Berkeley historian, and everyone knowing about the captured bigfeet that could walk through walls. I came across an applicable quote while looking up some Unix info earlier today. From the Unix Haters Handbook --

RayG

UC Berkeley is most noted for the "Free Speech Movement" of the 60's. Berkeley earned the name "Bezerkeley" due to the Bigfoot studies that occured there, also in the 60's. Never heard of the LSD or UNIX insinuation.
 
I sell homemade bigfoot calling systems, similar to my own, with one power strike and one alleged male howl, for $2000 a pop. Which includes 4 speakers. Buyers use at their own risk. No instructions are included.
So what can you tell us about this device? Does it run on batteries? What type of speakers? How large? How heavy?

You say "alleged male howl"; you mean you charge $2k and can not even confirm it is a real sound?

Since you didn't address the other issues, I assume you've conceded those points?
 
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