was OKC an inside job?

Revolutionary91 said:
It was a sting operation that they failed to stop in time, or possibly a rogue operative was employed to allow it to happen.
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That's quite the accusation. What did the FBI have to gain by "allowing it to happen"?
 
uk_dave said:
What do you condone?

The parents using their own children as a shield against the authorities?

Mcveigh taking 'revenge'?

How many of the children who died had gunshot wounds?

What gas was used?
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I don't condone anything.

The ATF could have taken Koresh anytime they wanted, he went round town on his own. He even invited them to his house to inspect his weapons. Instead, they turned up mob handed and shooting because they wanted a successful raid for good PR. It went wrong for them.

Try listening to the 911 call from one of the Davidians. They were law abiding families suddenly attacked for no reason whatsoever.
 
D'rok the Lacone said:
Fine. I'll rephrase.

The FBI wanted to blow up some civil servants in order to get revenge for their own bungled siege and the ATF's original raid at Waco?

If not, what was the FBI's motivation?
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Is Rev 91 saying the government attacked it self in retaliation for some thing it did.:confused: :rolleyes:
 
Revolutionary91 said:
It was a sting operation that they failed to stop in time, or possibly a rogue operative was employed to allow it to happen.
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Nice try. As the perpetrator himself proudly proclaimed, it was a CTer who finally acted out his paranoid fantasies. And no amount of lies and excuses and other mindless CT drivel will ever change that one scintilla.
 
Stellafane said:
Nice try. As the perpetrator himself proudly proclaimed, it was a CTer who finally acted out his paranoid fantasies. And no amount of lies and excuses and other mindless CT drivel will ever change that one scintilla.
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Yes, Governments are good, they love us.:rolleyes:
 
Revolutionary91 said:
Yes, Governments are good, they love us.:rolleyes:
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Seriously dude, I had to compose myself before responding to this, because I was very literally laughing out loud! Is this all you can come up with. something that has absolutely nothing to do with this discussion? This is about as off-topic as claiming wheat germ is good for regularity. I'd say you're shooting blanks, but you don't even have a gun, you're just pointing your finger and going "bang!"

It's not often I give advice to a CTer about how to be an even better CTer, but for you I'll make an exception: Don't ever bring up OKC again. It is far and away the low point of the CT movement, because -- and forgive my repetition, but you still don't seem to be quite getting it -- it was one of your own who admitted to killing 168 innocent Americans and injuring hundreds more. McVeigh is the poster child for those who fear CTers aren't just harmless cranks, but are potentially deranged and dangerous.

The fact that a fellow CTer cheerfully admitted to killing children and only regretted not having killed more is something that I (were I unfortunate enough to be a CTer myself) would be extremely loathe to mention. Surely this is a point that even the stupidest CTer can grasp.
 
I see Revolutionary91 has taken to simply ignoring difficult questions and evidence. Intellectual cowardice; emblematic of a truther.
 
I suggest we give Revolutionary91 a break, I didn't know he was that young.

Revolutionary91, buddy, live a little and stay in school. Cheers. :)
 
Stellafane said:
Seriously dude, I had to compose myself before responding to this, because I was very literally laughing out loud! Is this all you can come up with. something that has absolutely nothing to do with this discussion? This is about as off-topic as claiming wheat germ is good for regularity. I'd say you're shooting blanks, but you don't even have a gun, you're just pointing your finger and going "bang!"

It's not often I give advice to a CTer about how to be an even better CTer, but for you I'll make an exception: Don't ever bring up OKC again. It is far and away the low point of the CT movement, because -- and forgive my repetition, but you still don't seem to be quite getting it -- it was one of your own who admitted to killing 168 innocent Americans and injuring hundreds more. McVeigh is the poster child for those who fear CTers aren't just harmless cranks, but are potentially deranged and dangerous.

The fact that a fellow CTer cheerfully admitted to killing children and only regretted not having killed more is something that I (were I unfortunate enough to be a CTer myself) would be extremely loathe to mention. Surely this is a point that even the stupidest CTer can grasp.
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Please show me your evidence that McVeigh was a conspiracy theorist. He certainly couldn't have been a 9/11 or OKC CTer.
 
Revolutionary91 said:
Yes, Governments are good, they love us.:rolleyes:
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Thank you for you wonderous insight into the workings of the planets Governments.

So Rev 91 , what exactly is the alternative? An uprising, armed resistance, hey maybe everybody should march and start a revolution ?

You are not oppressed, you are not repressed, you are a free person in a free society. So free in fact you can go onto the streets , with a load speaker and accuse your Government of mass murder.

Maybe you want to try that in a real repressed country, try, North Korea, or Buma, hey maybe try it in Iran, or Syria. You have no idea what repression is, you like to feel you are. that way it fuels your anti establishment nonsense.
 
What else do you believe in Rev91?

Chemtrails?
NWO?
Numerology?
Reptoids?
Illuminati/freemason world domination?
The evil of zionism?

I do wonder just how many 'truther' boxes are ticked in your worldview.
 
stateofgrace said:
[W]hat exactly is the alternative? An uprising, armed resistance, hey maybe everybody should march and start a revolution ?
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I imagine it’s listening to lots of Rage Against the Machine and sassing his parents – “F*** you I won’t tidy my bedroom!”
 
uk_dave said:
What else do you believe in Rev91?

Chemtrails?
NWO?
Numerology?
Reptoids?
Illuminati/freemason world domination?
The evil of zionism?

I do wonder just how many 'truther' boxes are ticked in your worldview.
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Chemtrails? No
NWO? Yes
Numerology? No
Reptoids? No
Illuminati/freemason world domination? No
The evil of zionism? No


What do my beliefs on anything else matter. You do realise that 911myths.com has debunking contributions from a man who believes AIDS is manmade.
 
oahuoahu said:
any science docs i can watch that explain how the OKC bomb worked how it did so much damage and only blasted mainly in 1 direction and not in a full circle?
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The National Geographic show Seconds From Disaster devoted an episode to the Murrah building. You might be able to buy the episode from their site


you have a bomb literally with such destructive force it demolishes a building in one direction, but does nothing to buildings in the other direction that are just as far away... doesnt make sense.
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The only reason it doesn't make sense to you is because you're ignorant of how the building was constructed. There was a large horizontal transfer beam (not a column as some have said) which supported the entire front of the building. All the blast had to do was to knock out that beam and the entire front of the building was suddenly unsupported. Gravity did the rest. There is nothing here that doesn't make sense and certainly nothing that points to an inside job.

Steve S.
 
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