was OKC an inside job?

[uk_dave]

Chemtrails? No
NWO? Yes
Numerology? No
Reptoids? No
Illuminati/freemason world domination? No
The evil of zionism? No

Thank you for your honesty.

What do you understand the 'New World Order' to mean?

 

[kookbreaker]

Nice try. As the perpetrator himself proudly proclaimed, it was a CTer who finally acted out his paranoid fantasies. And no amount of lies and excuses and other mindless CT drivel will ever change that one scintilla.

I love how this one morphed over the years. Back in the late 90's, the USENET conspiracy crowd was babbling about how Mcveigh was innocent, he was a fall guy, all sorts of 'evidence' claiming he had nothing to do with it and was nowhere near the scene.

Then McVeigh goes and admits his crime on TV. Spoiled the whole 'save our militia' movement right there and then.

Now, of course, the new tale is this whole 'The FBI dood it using Mcveigh!!!!' routine. Whatever happened to McVeigh never doing it?

 

[Revolutionary91]

Thank you for your honesty.

What do you understand the 'New World Order' to mean?

You know what it means so why ask?

 

[uk_dave]

You know what it means so why ask?

I'm interested in what it means to you.

I suspect it means something very different to me.

 

[MIKILLINI]

It's not so much feigned confusion as a genuine inability to read your mind.

Now, do you have any evidence for your claim?

Yes Rev, Evidence, this type of evidence;
Evidence in its broadest sense, refers to anything that is used to determine or demonstrate the truth of an assertion. Philosophically, evidence can include propositions which are presumed to be true used in support of other propositions that are presumed to be falsifiable.

 

[D'rok]

Is Rev 91 saying the government attacked it self in retaliation for some thing it did.

Yup. Some theory, eh?

 

[Mince]

You mean provoked, not provocateured.
You have already been corrected once in this thread.
Thats a nonsense word isnt it?

It's Alex Jones speak. And if the master says it, it must be an appropriate word. All the time I hear Alex Jones say a word or phrase or express an idea on the radio, then I'll see that word, phrase or idea posted, verbatim, all over CT forums hours later. Of course, it'll be just after they've called everyone else a brainwashed sheep. Quite an interesting mentality.

 

[Civilized Worm]

Wow, this has to be the WORST conspiracy theory I've ever heard! How did the government - sorry, NWO even benefit from it?

The bomb blast didn't level half the building. It leveled one column, which led to progressive collapse of the floors above. About 80% of the victims died from that collapse, not from the blast effects.

Progressive collapse? A likely story! Everyone knows that no building has ever collapsed due to explos... Oh...

Don't ask me for references, look and learn.

Don't worry, most of us have realised by now that asking you for references is about as productive as asking dogs to be cats.

Good job your opinion has no bearing then.

And Alex Jones' opinion means what exactly? Funny isn't it, you didn't need any experts to decide that the famous Osama tape was not in fact bin Laden.

That was the ATF.

So the FBI is at war against the ATF? Well it makes about as much sense as the other rubbish you've come out with.

Please show me your evidence that McVeigh was a conspiracy theorist. He certainly couldn't have been a 9/11 or OKC CTer.

I know you're young, but surely you realise that there were conspiracy theories before OKC?

 

[Devil's Advocate]

I always thought the NWO was an agenda, not a group?
Or am I mistaken?

 

[Pardalis]

I always thought the NWO was an agenda, not a group?
Or am I mistaken?

It's a band of goons

 

[Civilized Worm]

Wrestling jokes will never stop making me LOL.

Actually the NWO was very well named, cos EVERYONE WAS IN IT!

 

[DGM]

I always thought the NWO was an agenda, not a group?
Or am I mistaken?

I can't tell you that. (Its a secret)

 

[Alzke]

I don't know if Oklahoma City was an inside job but as usual the American people are not getting the whole story.

In the last thread on OKC I know the story of Terrence Yeakey was brought up (and mostly ignored).

http://www.rinf.com/columnists/news/the-terrance-yeakey-cover-up

http://www.patshannan.com/yeakey.html

He was the first city cop on the scene and according to his wife and saw things he was not supposed to, resulting in his "suicide".

You can listen to a 2 part interview with his widow on the first link above. Do you think she's a liar?

What Yeakey saw may very well have corroborated the news reports from that day describing unexploded devices inside the building.

 

[Unsecured Coins]

I don't know if Oklahoma City was an inside job but as usual the American people are not getting the whole story.

In the last thread on OKC I know the story of Terrence Yeakey was brought up (and mostly ignored).

http://www.rinf.com/columnists/news/the-terrance-yeakey-cover-up

He was the first city cop on the scene and according to his wife and saw things he was not supposed to, resulting in his "suicide".

You can listen to a 2 part interview with his widow on the link above. Do you think she's a liar?

What Yeakey saw may very well have corroborated the news reports from that day describing unexploded devices inside the building.

I'm very interested in finding out what sort of things you're not supposed to see at a bombing site.

And I gotta be honest with you. I get a hearty guffaw every time a truther comes out with a video as "concrete proof" of whatever conspiracy and follows it up with... "could have been" "might be" etc... I know others have said this before, but I've been seeing it alot as of late.

 

[Alzke]

I'm very interested in finding out what sort of things you're not supposed to see at a bombing site.

And I gotta be honest with you. I get a hearty guffaw every time a truther comes out with a video as "concrete proof" of whatever conspiracy and follows it up with... "could have been" "might be" etc... I know others have said this before, but I've been seeing it alot as of late.

What the **** are you babbling about ?

I posted an audio interview with the wife of the first OKC police officer on the scene.

Terrence Yeakey told his wife that the story the public was given is not true.

He was acting scared and paranoid after the bombing, due to what he saw.

He was being tailed by government agents.

He committed suicide on federal land by slashing his wrists and throat, then crawling a mile and finally shooting himself in the head, three days before he was due to receive the Medal of Valor.

And this is the ******** you're going to come at me with?

Edited by Lisa Simpson: 

Inappropriate remark removed.

and just listen to the interview.

Keep in mind the Membership Agreement and do not use insults or personal attacks to argue your point.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Lisa Simpson

 

[Unsecured Coins]

Thanks, that clears up thw whole "what aren't you supposed to see at a bombing site" thing for me.

What Yeakey saw may very well have corroborated the news reports from that day describing unexploded devices inside the building.

Oh look, you don't know. That's speculation, hoss.

 

[Stellafane]

Please show me your evidence that McVeigh was a conspiracy theorist. He certainly couldn't have been a 9/11 or OKC CTer.

I'll answer your question, and then I'll bow out of this discussion. If (as has been indicated) you were born in 1991, I feel rather foolish and embarassed to learn I've been debating a teenager.

McVeigh never made any secret of his belief that the US government was conspiring to take away our civil rights and basically enslave us. He believed Waco and Ruby Ridge were evidence of this. He was inspired by the book "The Turner Diaries," written by an American neo-Nazi. (In fact, the OKC bombing may have been copied from the book's plot, in which the racist, anti-semite "hero" blows up the FBI building.) McViegh also bought into other CTs, such as the US government importing drugs from Canada in mini-subs. (He even claimed he had proof on this, only the document was printed on special paper that you couldn't copy in a photocopy machine!) For more, see http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/notorious/mcveigh/dawning_1.html.

So all in all, McVeigh appears to have been deeply immersed in the CT scene (which of course stretches far beyond 9/11 and OKC). The only difference between him and most other CTers is that he finally acted out on his fantasies, and other CTers haven't -- so far.

 

[slingblade]

You can listen to a 2 part interview with his widow on the first link above. Do you think she's a liar?

This sounds so much like a kid on the playground, swearing to something his mommy told him. Gee, would it be okay if, until I have all the facts, I entertain at least the possiblity that people lie? Even those who survive a tragedy, like a spouse's suicide? Not saying she is; just letting you know that in the real world outside of Paranoiaville, many things are possible.

What Yeakey saw may very well have corroborated the news reports from that day describing unexploded devices inside the building.

You mean the simulated bombs they had been using to train dogs with?

 

[DGM]

Originally Posted by Alzke
What Yeakey saw may very well have corroborated the news reports from that day describing unexploded devices inside the building.

There were unexploded "devices" in the building. They were training rounds. This has been beat to death.

 

[DGM]

He was the first city cop on the scene and according to his wife and saw things he was not supposed to, resulting in his "suicide".

Yes he did see things he was not supposed to see. Without going into gory details there was a daycare there and many kids were badly injured. He never came to grips with this.

You can listen to a 2 part interview with his widow on the first link above. Do you think she's a liar?

Ex-wife/widow. I don't think she understood what he went through they were not close. Mistaken not a liar.

What Yeakey saw may very well have corroborated the news reports from that day describing unexploded devices inside the building.

As before. Training rounds not bombs