PS Audio Noise Harvester

Brilliant Pebbles reduces EMI because of the different stone materials.

No.

It also reduces resonances because each stone has a different resonant frequency.

No.

The glass bottle is airtight which does something also.

No.

It's a fact that snug screws inside the chassis gives better sound than tight screws, it's because some of the resonances are lost to heat from friction of the snug screws.

This is some of the most hilarious nonsense I have heard for long :p . ES, do you make it up as you go or did you pick it up in some audiophile article?

If the EMI is removed from ERS Paper and resonances removed from Magix, then there is nothing left for Brilliant Pebbles. Magix is real and can be measured, ERS Paper can be measured as well, there is no snake oil here.

I have no idea what Magix is, but ERS paper is useless in the way you use it. ERS paper has some effect for ESD, and it may, in very special applications, provide some EMI screening, but packing your already shielded cables loosely in it is useless.

But with Brilliant Pebbles I'm still a skeptic because it hasn't been measured. I couldn't hear a difference either, but that doesn't mean there isn't one.

There isn't one.

There is no doubt that Brilliant Pebbles makes a difference based on true physics,

Yes. The only difference they make based on true physics is to the weight of your purse.

Hans
 
I was once caught up in the stereophile golden-ear world of woo. I still have a pretty nice system, but I don't have any components isolated on special platforms, I don't have any cables suspended off the floor, I listened to the manufacturer of my preamplifier/processor and don't have a power conditioner connected to it. And despite all of these no-no's my friends and family can hear a tremendous difference when they listen to a quality system with proper room acoustics and speaker placement.

Of course there is a difference between a good system and a so-so system. And, yes, room acoustics and speaker placement is important, and something people all too often ignore.

In the end, the point of diminishing returns is quickly reached with every component in the chain in the following ascending order:

1 The cables (Including speaker cables.)

All but speaker cables are uncritical.

2 The preamp/processor
3 The amplifier (Tied with the pre/pro)

Electronics must be good, but good electronics are easy to make, so unless you have really crappy electronics, they can be expected to be good enough.

4 The speakers

With the turntable obsolete, the only weak link in the chain lef is the speakers.

5 Room correction measures/devices (Nearly tied with speakers)

Absolutely inseparable form the speakers, IF you want to work with this. However, most users have the room as a living room first, and as a listening room second. After all, to most it is more important to sit in a nice place than having absolutely optimal sound.

Hans
 
Is that you? Quite a paunch you've got yourself there. Perhaps you should get some exercise ;)?

Hans
I workout 4-5 times a day.

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No.
No is what all the skeptics say about something they don't want to believe because they are too old to get out from their delusion. You still listen to the improvements with the music paused but are too delusional to realize you don't have any credibility.


This is some of the most hilarious nonsense I have heard for long :p . ES, do you make it up as you go or did you pick it up in some audiophile article?
No, you need to learn proper physics to understand these things.


I have no idea what Magix is, but ERS paper is useless in the way you use it. ERS paper has some effect for ESD, and it may, in very special applications, provide some EMI screening, but packing your already shielded cables loosely in it is useless.
Nordost Valhalla power cables aren't shielded. If they were it would be worse because having the shield too close to the conductors makes it sound muddy. The shield needs to be separated 1cm from the conductors. The live and neutral conductors need to be separated from each other also, otherwise all the details are gone. But I guess it doesn't matter to the deaf skeptics.

ERS Paper was designed to be put inside the chassis where interference between the components reduces performance. I haven't heard a difference when putting it outside the chassis. But when I wrap a cable in it I hear a huge improvement in resolution. All the brightness transforms into transients. People who complain about audio sounding edgy and "digital"... the problems are EMI, vibration and AC noise, after the problems are solved it sounds smoother with more detail. It's very simple but for some reason the narrow-minded skeptics don't get it. They are too brainwashed to have any common sense. It's all over for them and I accept that.

Those who want proper audio quality know what to do.
 
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I workout 4-5 times a day.

Not very effectively, obviously.

No is what all the skeptics say about something they don't want to believe because they are too old to get out from their delusion.

No is what I say because I happen to actually know something about this ;).

You still listen to the improvements with the music paused...

No.

No, you need to learn proper physics to understand these things.

I prefer real physics. You know, the kind that apply to the real world. (And if you don't know what the real world is, it is the kind you find outside you room. You should try it once; it can be frightening at the start, but it has many opportunities)

Nordost Valhalla power cables aren't shielded. If they were it would be worse because having the shield too close to the conductors makes it sound muddy.

No need to shield power cables.

The shield needs to be separated 1cm from the conductors. The live and neutral conductors need to be separated from each other also, otherwise all the details are gone.

What makes you think that? I ask you again: Do you just make this up as you go, or where do you get all these daft ideas from?

ERS Paper was designed to be put inside the chassis where interference between the components reduces performance.

You know, even IF there was some interference between components (btw, intereference is not the right term here, parasitic coupling would be a more correct term), and even if shielding could improve that, installing internal shielding is a science. Just placing conductive material here and there is likely to do more harm than good.

I haven't heard a difference when putting it outside the chassis.

Big surprise.

But when I wrap a cable in it I hear a huge improvement in resolution.

Sure :rolleyes:.

All the brightness transforms into transients. People who complain about audio sounding edgy and "digital"... the problems are EMI, vibration and AC noise, after the problems are solved it sounds smoother with more detail.

You are just repeating smart words. You don't know what half of them mean.

Hans
 
You aren't the same Patrick who has bodybuilder posters on the wall, plays computer pool, trolls on partyshooters, and asked questions about scientific testing because you got rear ended and was curious how long you had to wait to find out if you were positive, are you?

For the record, this is the post that lead me to believe he might prefer men. I suppose getting rear-ended doesn't necessarily mean he prefers men, perhaps he just dabbles in sodomy. Or maybe he was experimenting, according to his logic you can't know if you don't try.
 
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Is that you? Quite a paunch you've got yourself there. Perhaps you should get some exercise ;)?

I workout 4-5 times a day.

Not very effectively, obviously.
If you knew proper physics you would know the shirt is hanging... There is air between shirt and abs.

Skeptics are not only half deaf, they are half blind as well.


No is what I say because I happen to actually know something about this ;).
People only need to read the first page to see how much you "know".
 
You aren't the same Patrick who has bodybuilder posters on the wall, plays computer pool, trolls on partyshooters, and asked questions about scientific testing because you got rear ended and was curious how long you had to wait to find out if you were positive, are you?
All bodybuilders have posters on the wall.

Using a simulator on the computer is more effective than real life since you can separate the variables.

I don't even know what partyshooters is.


I can't see what this has to do with the Noise Harvester. When skeptics are proven wrong they just change the subject as quickly as possible...
For the record, this is the post that lead me to believe he might prefer men. I suppose getting rear-ended doesn't necessarily mean he prefers men, perhaps he just dabbles in sodomy. Or maybe he was experimenting, according to his logic you can't know if you don't try.
Humans are not the correct species for me. If you are attracted to the intestines then there is a problem with you. If you are attracted to the outer shell but not the intestines, then you have an even bigger problem.

The human skeptics like to look at the surface of things but when they go inside they get scared when they find the truth, the little trolls like to live their life in ignorance...
 
As an amateur recording engineer (I occasionally charge some bands), I have more than once been tweaking the EQ on the hi band, and made several adjustments carefully listening for the track to blend better with the mix, and laughed after realising the EQ wasn't engaged for the track.
I don't know any engineers who haven't made this same gaff. It teaches one something about placebo.
My favorite was the engineer who was bothered by the guitarist in the control room constantly complaining about his sound.
The engineer hooked up a dummy compressor and labeled one knob "soar".
The guitarist was allowed to control this knob during the mix, and was quite satisfied with the difference he made in the mix. :D

Extreme Skeptic, you are contolling the soar knob.

I know I've done that plenty of times, although it's usually that I"m adjusting the plugin on a different track, and now have to try and place the knob back where it was.
 
I prefer real physics. You know, the kind that apply to the real world. (And if you don't know what the real world is, it is the kind you find outside you room. You should try it once; it can be frightening at the start, but it has many opportunities)
Physics inside my room is the same as outside my room. People who lack proper logic need to go outside to find the answers...

No need to shield power cables.
Power cables need to be shielded, otherwise the music sounds edgy. Nordost's power cables aren't shielded which is why they sound edgier and faster than neutral.

When I removed the ERS Paper wrap from my Valhalla it made everything edgier and more fatiguing. But I liked it more for one of my transports.

I'm using 2 transports so it is easy to compare them with the flip of a switch. The power cord makes a bigger difference than the transports themselves and all the tweaks combined. It's because the silver plating of Valhalla doesn't make the power supply work properly, it gives the sound signature of cold capacitors that never get warmed up. It makes everything sound clean, open and thin which makes the transient speed and detail more apparent. It's because the jitter has been increased and changed. Valhalla cables are the furthest from neutral but they give the illusion of neutrality because they compensate for muddy systems. You only need half a meter of Valhalla plugged into the wall to hear how it manipulates the power supply.
I would post my 2+ years research here but the skeptics aren't interested in knowing the truth.

Magix levitation feet, ERS Paper and Noise Harvester are tweaks that don't color the sound. They just make it sound like it's supposed to sound.

What makes you think that? I ask you again: Do you just make this up as you go, or where do you get all these daft ideas from?
Because I have tried it for myself and heard the difference.

You know, even IF there was some interference between components (btw, intereference is not the right term here, parasitic coupling would be a more correct term), and even if shielding could improve that, installing internal shielding is a science. Just placing conductive material here and there is likely to do more harm than good.
There are reflections inside the chassis, removing the reflections does more harm than good? I haven't heard any weaknesses when the ERS was separated more than 1cm from the components inside.
ERS inside the amp made the high frequencies cleaner which gave the illusion of extended frequency response. ERS for the power conditioner gave more bass information similar to Noise Harvester. ERS for the transport decreased jitter, it transformed the brightness into more detail.


You are just repeating smart words. You don't know what half of them mean.
I'm not repeating because there is nobody worth repeating.
 
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I wouldn't be at all surprise that it is that science doesn't give him the answer he wants, and that answer is that he is correct. He most certainly does not care what we say, no matter how true it is, he just wants attention, apparently he doesn’t get it at home.

Paul

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I don't need attention, I just play with the skeptics like normal people play with monkeys by teasing them with bananas. It's my way of passing time until the spaceship comes and beams me up.

If I would post proof which would immediately turn every skeptic into a believer, then I don't have anyone to play with. Instead I'm waving proof in front of them and then I immediately take it away, that way I can keep on playing.
 
He makes you so glad that humans have only infested one star system so far.

Paul

:) :) :)
 
As an amateur recording engineer (I occasionally charge some bands), I have more than once been tweaking the EQ on the hi band, and made several adjustments carefully listening for the track to blend better with the mix, and laughed after realising the EQ wasn't engaged for the track.
I don't know any engineers who haven't made this same gaff. It teaches one something about placebo.
That's because the engineers' hearing becomes worse over time but they can't admit it. It's not a coincidence that most of the skeptics are half deaf engineers.
When they listen to tweaks they can't hear a difference, so instead of admitting to themselves that all those years as recording engineer has made them deaf they make themselves believe that everything in audio is placebo.

My favorite was the engineer who was bothered by the guitarist in the control room constantly complaining about his sound.
The engineer hooked up a dummy compressor and labeled one knob "soar".
The guitarist was allowed to control this knob during the mix, and was quite satisfied with the difference he made in the mix. :D

Extreme Skeptic, you are contolling the soar knob.
Volume control knobs make the sound worse. PS Audio's Gain Cell pre-amp is the way to go.
 
I see that no one anywhere takes you seriously, and it is amazing how many are so clueless to electronics and physics.

Paul

:) :) :)
 
I see that no one anywhere takes you seriously, and it is amazing how many are so clueless to electronics and physics.

Paul

:) :) :)
People don't take me seriously because they don't want what I say to be true. There are people with $20k sources who have made themselves believe they get better sound than something cheaper. They aren't upgrading to better gear, they are just side-stepping into different flavors. Fixing the problems of the gear is what gives the true improvements.

Computer is a good enough transport if you tweak it properly. I can hear a difference between 1 vs 2 harddrives. 2 harddrives spinning makes it sound too edgy. When the 2nd harddrive goes into sleep mode it sounds too smooth and dull but with more low-level detail. I can hear in the music whenever the harddrive inside my closet spins down. Without listening to music I can't hear it spin down.
 

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