PS Audio Noise Harvester

ExtremeSkeptic said:
Read the 1st link again, they used slow classical music for the tests. The most complex music in that test scored 80%. It's still far from the quality of my trance mp3's. Valhalla is made for music with transient speed and layering.

I tested music with few sounds playing at once and almost didn't hear a difference between cables (in blind test I would fail), but when I used layered music (10+ sounds at once) the differences were obvious, with the crappy cable those sounds blended together, but with Valhalla I could hear them separately.

The problem with skeptics is that they use a single sound to test for the differences.
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He is hopeless my friends, I know I'm out of here. What BS he believes. He can't beleive that he can fool himself.

Paul

:) :) :)

I will only answer others on this thread.... he is on ignore
 
MRC_Hans said:
Assuming you mean dielctric material: No. Has nothing at all to do with distortion.



Right and wrong. A low dielectric constant means higher propagation speed. Not that it matters in the audio range ....

It has nothing to do friction, but any dielectric material has losses. So the denser the dielectric, the greater the losses. Again, however, this is immaterial in the audio range.



Any normal person with common sense can figure out that if you don't know anything about electromagnetics (or any other subject), you should refrain from lecturing people who do.

Hans
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Just because it is your job doesn't mean you know what you are talking about. Read again what I said in the beginning of this thread about the badge you are waving around and bragging about...

The last thing those people want is to realize that they have wasted so many years learning flawed knowledge. So they protect themselves by going deeper into the delusion.
 
Paulhoff said:
He is hopeless my friends, I know I'm out of here. What BS he believes. He can't beleive that he can fool himself.

Paul

:) :) :)

I will only answer others on this thread.... he is on ignore
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Skeptics with big egos are afraid of the unknown and like to run away and back into their dream world where they feel safe with their flawed incomplete knowledge. They don't like to explore because they are afraid of finding something new that would prove themselves wrong. They will also try to prevent everyone else from doing the exploring because of the same reason.

Skeptics are like little trolls who live in a little cave and keep people hostage inside the cave.
 
EternalSceptic said:
I slightly disagree here. You are of course right when you say that the human ear cannot hear things that cannot be measured -as far as the physical part of the ear (eardrum, cortic organ... ) is concerned. But there is more to it. What a person really hears is massive filtered and modified by psychic factors (you sort of hear what you want to hear). It's also IMO similar to taste sensations - what you think you taste is a mix of taste, smell, appearance and the mechanical properties of the food. Imagine ES's "extreme pizza" - even if it's taste would that of a perfectly cooked pizza you probably would not enjoy it as much a the real thing.

Place an audiophil in front of a plain metal box and two gray painted speaker boxes with cables in gray insulation in a bright room and alternative with a shiny polished tube amplifier with i'ts cosy glooming filaments in the tubes on top in a dim room and he will hear quite a difference even if the inside of both equipment is exactly the same (including gold plated cables inside the gray insulation). What he hears is a mixture uf acoustic and visual perception together with the awareness how expensive the equipment was and probably some more factors.
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Based on your logic my system would sound very bad.

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ExtremeSkeptic said:
Read the 1st link again, they used slow classical music for the tests. The most complex music in that test scored 80%. It's still far from the quality of my trance mp3's. Valhalla is made for music with transient speed and layering.

I tested music with few sounds playing at once and almost didn't hear a difference between cables (in blind test I would fail), but when I used layered music (10+ sounds at once) the differences were obvious, with the crappy cable those sounds blended together, but with Valhalla I could hear them separately.

The problem with skeptics is that they use a single sound to test for the differences.
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10+ sounds at once? Have you got any idea how many sounds a just medium scale orchestra produces?

Not to speek about Richard Strauss or Berlioz
 
EternalSceptic said:
10+ sounds at once? Have you got any idea how many sounds a just medium scale orchestra produces?

Not to speek about Richard Strauss or Berlioz
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I see by your post EternalSceptic that he writes about transient speed and layering, more audiophile woo-woos, the so-called transient speed in audio is nothing compared to radio frequencies, and the layering is BS to. At any one moment there is only one voltage, not many.

Paul

:) :) :)

This guy reminds me of some CB radio people I know. One that I know said to me "Book learning, you got book learning". He drove around with a bucket in his car’s trunk full of salt, he put a wire into the salt and grounded the other end to the car's body. He had heard that putting salt into the ground around a copper pipe used as a earth ground would make it work better, so from that he jumped to using salt in a bucket in his car’s trunk for a better ground.
 
You aren't the same Patrick who has bodybuilder posters on the wall, plays computer pool, trolls on partyshooters, and asked questions about scientific testing because you got rear ended and was curious how long you had to wait to find out if you were positive, are you?
 
EternalSceptic said:
10+ sounds at once? Have you got any idea how many sounds a just medium scale orchestra produces?

Not to speek about Richard Strauss or Berlioz
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I'm talking about multiple sounds at the same spot in the soundstage. Orchestras have only 1 sound playing at each position, it isn't complex enough. Orchestral music is made for crappy systems. My trance music has 3 layers of bass transients occupying the same spot, you need a proper system to hear each of those layers distinct. The high frequency transients are spread around the soundstage, you need silver plated cables to separate the highs from the lows. With 60 microns silver plating everything sounds flat and lifeless, nothing stands out. But with 78 microns each sound is distinct, the bass doesn't interfere with the highs anymore.
 
 
Paulhoff said:
I see by your post EternalSceptic that he writes about transient speed and layering, more audiophile woo-woos, the so-called transient speed in audio is nothing compared to radio frequencies, and the layering is BS to. At any one moment there is only one voltage, not many.

Paul

:) :) :)

This guy reminds me of some CB radio people I know. One that I know said to me "Book learning, you got book learning". He drove around with a bucket in his car’s trunk full of salt, he put a wire into the salt and grounded the other end to the car's body. He had heard that putting salt into the ground around a copper pipe used as a earth ground would make it work better, so from that he jumped to using salt in a bucket in his car’s trunk for a better ground.
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How can there be more than 1 voltage at a time, with magic? You don't know what transient speed and layering in audio means.

Audio doesn't work like radio channels. You need to learn proper knowledge on how audio works. Since it isn't written in primitive books you are forced to live in ignorance, unless you explain it as placebo, like I said, it's the easy way out.
 
Project86 said:
More fun reading:

http://www.marigoaudio.com/vtstuningdots.htm

http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina41.htm

http://www.shakti-innovations.com/hallograph.htm

http://www.belt.demon.co.uk/product/redxpen/rxp.html

http://www.belt.demon.co.uk/product/Black_Cream/PWB_Special_Black_Cream.htm

http://www.michaelgreenaudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=581

http://www.musicdirect.com/products/detail.asp?sku=AOPTRIX

http://www.takefiveaudio.com/HTML/cable_burnin.html

http://www.goldensound.com/productlist/next-generation-audio-accessories

http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=CRRCASS

http://cgi.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/auc.pl?accstwek&1174360451&1174061369


ES, take notes: You are missing out if you don't use all of this stuff.
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That's why I use headphones so I don't need millions of dollars worth of room treatments.

I use Optrix to clean dust from my headphone cable and reduce static electricity. The difference is as small as mp3 vs wav.
 
 
A fact can only describe something that is incomplete.A fact can only describe something that is incomplete.
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Well, it's a fact that your father impregnated your mother resulting in an incomplete lifeform. It's also a fact that Sweden's health care system is sufficiently incomplete to treat your disorders.
 
Reverend Chu said:
You aren't the same Patrick who has bodybuilder posters on the wall, plays computer pool, trolls on partyshooters, and asked questions about scientific testing because you got rear ended and was curious how long you had to wait to find out if you were positive, are you?
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Yes, I have nude photos of men on my wall. But skeptics aren't interested to know how they got there so why bother explaining.
It's the same with audio, all they see is someone wrapping the audio system in grey toilet paper...
For them ignorance is bliss, they just want to laugh, it makes their ego grow.
 
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