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This is the thread that may very well change the way you look at 9/11 FOREVER!

Molten steel, NO THERMITE!

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http://www.etc.org/technologicaland...emicalsofconcern/zinc/images/molten-steel.jpg

A kitty pic.

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http://www.innocentenglish.com/cute-animals/cute-kitten-3.jpg

And a macaroon.

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http://www.sweetishhill.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/macaroon-2.jpg
 
Well, here's what I can assure you. If you engage me in this debate, than you will NOT leave this thread without KNOWING that 9/11 was an inside job and brought down by controlled demolitions.

43 pages in and still NO DANGED SUBSTANCE! Reading this thread has cost me precious minutes of my life. Why are you wasting our time like this? Is it a game? Or do you really not understand what everyone is saying to you?

Many smart and dedicated posters here have provided you with all the resources you need to educate yourself about the truth of 9/11.

Why the heck wont you read them?

Are you just not interested in reality? Sometimes it's not very nice or very exciting, but it's where all the really good things happen.
 
I scientifically proved therma/ite was at the towers...by analyzing the behavior of the pouring molten metal from WTC 2 - and also from the column with the black molten metal from a therma/ite reaction. I proved why it had to be something other than the slag from the column - but everyone just wants to make crap up and say I don't know what I'm talking about.

How would I go about backing up my scientific claims - like molten slag from steel CANNOT change colors from the original color of the steel?

What? Slag is the same color as steel? Are you on something or what?

What in dear gods name are you talking about?

I tell you honestly when steel is cut with an Oxy-acetylene torch the steel gets burnt my friend, these torches burn at something like 3000 degrees F and yes my friend they burn through steel. They burn though anything. I have seen with my own eyes, 2 inch steel plate cut of steel decks, I’ve seen burnt steel my friend, yes it does burn, and yes the slag is a completely different color to the steel.

Stop confusing yourself. Burning metal is not the same as welding metal, please go get a job, get a gas axe, do something but for goodness sake but stop reading conspiracy nonsense.
 
Did yall miss this post:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=2176771#post2176771

What else do I need to present in order for you to believe that 9/11 is an inside job?

Some evidence that you've bothered to read the post would be nice.

But it's good to know a CTist can still be relied on to go for the low-hanging fruit. I just knew you'd try to use that patent to support your position, and end up looking foolish.

Did you miss the description of the materials of the nozzle? Yes, you did, so here it is again:

Preferred materials for fabricating the nozzle 300 include high-density graphite and mineral/phenolic. High temperature plastics, such as glass-filled polyetheretherketone, may also be used.

So you'd need cylinders made of some of these materials, of at least a large enough size to cover the beams (not columns, alas) you're cutting. And you'd need at least as many as beams you cut, sorry, not re-useable. So, show me thousands of those on the ground around Ground Zero and you might have something. Or even some remnants of these that were destroyed in the process of the collapse.

Oh, and did you miss the dates? Yes, you did, so here they are again:

2002-07-09 US2002000191607 Filing date
2001-07-09 US2001000303949P Earliest priority date (they filed a provisional application, which usually means they have a basic idea, but haven't produced a complete working design yet)

So in July 2001 all they had was just a preliminary sketch of an idea. Between July and September, they not only perfected the design, they also scaled it up to the needed size, manufactured them all, delivered them to the site, and set them all up. Oh, sorry, I forgot that that "wasn't too complex".

So, next time I post a patent, and there will be a next time, please try to read it before you analyse it. These inventors put a lot of effort into those things, and it's a shame you don't read them.

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No they do not, only in a vacuum like your head.

On earth the massive piece beats the not so massive piece. I think you need a physics teacher.

It is mass that makes the object over come air resistance.

The 50,000 pound will win. The air will act more on the less massive object.

This is the very reason you need education! You have failed to learn about physics.
Wouldn't another reason be that gravitational force is dependent on the mass of the falling body and the earth?
 
Ummmm...I think you can find the "Physics for Dummies!" book at any Borders or Barnes and Noble bookstore. You should really read that before you post another ridiculous statement like the one above.

You, my friend, are 31 flavors of moronic.
Fenyman lectures on physics. All three volumes, get them and read.
 
Wouldn't another reason be that gravitational force is dependent on the mass of the falling body and the earth?

I have to look it up; that is why they write it down.

I think you make sense.

Is that the real book answer? I just know the bigger mass wins the speed.

From what 28th has said, there is some magical speed of gravity; I wonder if he know gravity may be like light for speed. Not sure if he understands gravity acts as a force and therefore accelerates things.
 
Two objects dropped in a vacuum will accelerate the same regardless of mass(9.8 meters/sec squared at earth's surface).

However, with air resistance, it gets more complicated. The object that feels more air drag due to it's aerodynamic characteristics (like feather vs tiny pebble) will tend to not accelerate as fast as the object with less drag. However, if the object with more air drag also has much more mass then the other, then it will accelerate faster.

So it's the ratio of mass to air drag that determines acceleration and thus velocity.

If you drop a feather, and an identical feather balled up, the balled up will accelerate faster.

I'm sure someone else can give a better explanation than I can.

Also the 9.8 rule applies only when the mass of the falling object is very small compared to the mass of the earth and only at the surface of the earth.

Here's some info from Nasa. and Wikipedia: free-fall
 
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Most of the hijackers were college educated.
Our military isn't the most powerful or advanced in the world.
Our mitliatry wasn't the one that was fooled. It was immigration that was, since they wre the ones allowing these men in and out of the country while they took flying lessons here.
Yes and ironicly I just read what Atta's degree from Cairo University was. Would you like to reveal what it was :)
 
"We could blow up a US ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba."
And the next line says they will hold a funeral for MOCK victims.
"It is possible to create an incident which will demonstrate convincingly that a Cuban aircraft attacked and shot down a chartered civil airliner in route from the United States to Jamaica ... the passengers could be a group of college students off on a holiday..."
Guess you didn't want to read paragrah a underneath that where it explains they would switch planes and in paragraph b they described the switch even further. They even mentioned the base where they would switch the plane. Now where does it say anything about killing US citizens. You don't answer any questions you find uncomfortable. You provide no proof and here you lie because you apparently are a failure of the US educational system. Go back to driving your limo.
 
I dont think 28K is PD. Even PD with his regular rantings was not this ignorant of something so obvious.

TAM
I already told you guys who 28 is. I can pretty much assure you that he is going to run and tell a few of his "intellectual" superiors and we are going to have a field day with these woowoos.
 
WHY DO YOU THINK THEY ONLY Declassified 15 pages? You saw how bad some of that stuff looked...can you imagine what they're trying to hide with the other 130+ pages? You probably wouldn't be able to sleep at night if you read it.
Somebody that isn't ignored by this guy ask him where he gets this bs from.
 
If you haven't done any chemical analysis, how did you prove scientifically that it was thermite? And how can you claim that its thermite when 90% of the buildigns were made with chemicals found in thermite?
Steven Jones did analysis (bad analysis is still analysis). Unfortunately for him the results showed common building material so the results are far from proof of thermite.
 
I have to look it up; that is why they write it down.

I think you make sense.

Is that the real book answer? I just know the bigger mass wins the speed.

From what 28th has said, there is some magical speed of gravity; I wonder if he know gravity may be like light for speed. Not sure if he understands gravity acts as a force and therefore accelerates things.
Yes it is.

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FG = Magnitude of the Gravitational Force (N)
m1 = Mass of one body (kg)
m2 = Mass of a second body (kg)
G = 6.672x10-11 N.m2/kg2 (Universal Gravitational Constant)
r = Distance between the centers of mass of the two objects (m)
 
Two objects dropped in a vacuum will accelerate the same regardless of mass(9.8 meters/sec squared at earth's surface).
Not entirely true. Close enough for government work though. Here is the applicable equation:

Gravity01.gif

FG = Magnitude of the Gravitational Force (N)
m1 = Mass of one body (kg)
m2 = Mass of a second body (kg)
G = 6.672x10-11 N.m2/kg2 (Universal Gravitational Constant)
r = Distance between the centers of mass of the two objects (m)
 

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