This is the thread that may very well change the way you look at 9/11 FOREVER!

[defaultdotxbe]

Two planes flying into buildings and killing 20-50 people is a tragedy...but it doesn't have the CATALYZING effect of the buildings collapsing...and pandemonium ensuing - plus you collapse buildings you get BIG insurance money...like say 3billion+ - that's a nice day's pay.

over 200 people died when the plane hit the south tower (and that doesnt include the people on the plane)

so how does 3 billion insurance help when you have to use it to rebuild a pair of 8 billion dollar towers?

 

[Timble]

- it's all about power and expanding the NEW AMERICAN EMPIRE.

The EMPIRE NEVER ENDED, according to PKD. Now he was a bit of a speed-freak..

 

[volatile]

Have we given up on thermite now?

Did 28k ever explain how a conspiracy of thousands has had not one person whistleblow?

 

[JonnyFive]

You want answers? Claiming an increasing mass size...means the floors are pancaking (stacking up) as they fall...with this theory...you can't account for the core columns....which were also wiped out...this is why an animation of NIST's version of the collapse would be just lovely...too bad they'll never make one...they might be exposed.

No, actually, I'm not claiming they "pancaked" as that seems like a simplistic and overly neat analogy to what actually happened.

I am claiming that everything that was coming down, less the debris tossed to the side, contributed to the overall mass bringing down the rest of the building, including the core columns.

Life isn't a cartoon where the floors stay intact and just plop down on top of each other.

 

[stateofgrace]

Originally Posted by ZouPrime

All falling things accelerate. On earth, the acceleration is approximatively 9.8m/s^2. That's high school physics. And the more floors you have above you, the more mass you'll have above you; again, that's incredibly obvious for everyone but you.

followed by this..........

That's a lie. You can't fall faster than free fall speeds...YOU CAN'T unless you have some other unnatural force pushing down on an object....falling floors aren't pushing down...they're falling...and they will never fall faster than free fall.

Huh ?!?

 

[Timble]

Have we given up on thermite now?

Did 28k ever explain how a conspiracy of thousands has had not one person whistleblow?

I think he's moved onto rhetoric, or ranting, or something..

 

[Mashuna]

Haven't you seen the military budget sky-rocket since 9/11? MORE MONEY - MORE TOYS TO PLAY WITH. The reasons for us HIJACKING IRAQ...which WAS AN INTERNATIONAL CRIME - even if you think Saddam is evil...that doesn't mean what we did wasn't illegal...is too complex of an issue to discuss here...but, trust me - it's all about power and expanding the NEW AMERICAN EMPIRE.

It appears as though 'issues that are too complex to discuss here' would include anything that requires you to provide evidence.

Please note, evidence does not come in the following forms:

'Anyone can see'
'It's obvious'
'Look at this still photo of the collapse'
'squibs'
'faster than free fall'
'You're all too blinkered to see the truth'
'Just imagine for a moment'
'I don't see how that could have happened'

Actually, to save me time, if you could just check your posting history for examples of how not to conduct a valid argument, that'd be great.

Thanks

 

[JonnyFive]

so how does 3 billion insurance help when you have to use it to rebuild a pair of 8 billion dollar towers?

Seriously, he doesn't know jack-[rule 8] about insurance.

28K, what experience do you have in the insurance industry, anyway? What do you know about how coverage is written or claims are settled? Know anything about actuarial science?

 

[rwguinn]

I think he's moved onto rhetoric, or ranting, or something..

Folklore. That's where the money is.

 

[28th Kingdom]

So you are all saying...that air is causing the entire outer grid of the WTC to explode and splinter into a million little pieces? If the floors are collapsing down on each other - that is one thing...but what about the outer grid...being blown outward like shredded wheat?

http://www.mugen.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/wtc.jpg

 

[DavidJames]

this is why an animation of NIST's version of the collapse would be just lovely...too bad they'll never make one...

NIST isn't pixar or Disney and don't produce cartoons for children. NIST gave you detailed scientific analysis provided by experts in the related fields. But since you aren't smart enough to understand it, you want animation.

Sorry troll - go get yourself some education and come back when you grow up.

 

[28th Kingdom]

I think he's moved onto rhetoric, or ranting, or something..

Do you know what you call a whistleblower of 9/11? UNPATRIOTIC...a traitor...a TERRORIST...AN IDIOT...A CRAZY CONSPIRACY THEORIST WITH ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF - THAT GUY JUST HAS AN AXE TO GRIND MAN...WHAT AN IDIOT NOW - HE'S UNEMPLOYED AND HOMELESS...LOOK AT THAT NUT - WHAT A MORON !!

 

[stateofgrace]

Haven't you seen the military budget sky-rocket since 9/11? MORE MONEY - MORE TOYS TO PLAY WITH. The reasons for us HIJACKING IRAQ...which WAS AN INTERNATIONAL CRIME - even if you think Saddam is evil...that doesn't mean what we did wasn't illegal...is too complex of an issue to discuss here...but, trust me - it's all about power and expanding the NEW AMERICAN EMPIRE.

Don’t you want to be part of the new Empire, or are you going to strike back?

( Yes I know it’s lame)

 

[Timble]

So you are all saying...that air is causing the entire outer grid of the WTC to explode and splinter into a million little pieces? If the floors are collapsing down on each other - that is one thing...but what about the outer grid...being blown outward like shredded wheat?

http://www.mugen.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/wtc.jpg

Some of it will being pinged out by the top part of the building falling into the bottom part, like pinging a paper clip between your fingers...only bigger.

 

[Spins]

Two planes flying into buildings and killing 20-50 people is a tragedy...but it doesn't have the CATALYZING effect of the buildings collapsing...and pandemonium ensuing - plus you collapse buildings you get BIG insurance money...like say 3billion+ - that's a nice day's pay.

No that's totally false, your lack of understanding about what happened on that day is really bothersome! 100s of people died when each plane hit the tower, for example this from the 78th floor...

As he began climbing, he crossed paths with a handful of injured people who had been in the 78th floor Sky Lobby, where scores of office workers had been waiting for express elevators when the second plane hit. The tip of its left wing grazed the lobby, instantly killing most of a group variously estimated between 50 and 200 people. Only a dozen ultimately escaped from the building. Among them was Judy Wein.

http://www.mishalov.com/wtc_lostvoicesfiredept.html

...lets also not forget that there were 91 people aboard Flight 11 and 65 people aboard Flight 175!

 

[Skibum]

Do you know what you call a whistleblower of 9/11? UNPATRIOTIC...a traitor...a TERRORIST...AN IDIOT...A CRAZY CONSPIRACY THEORIST WITH ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF - THAT GUY JUST HAS AN AXE TO GRIND MAN...WHAT AN IDIOT NOW - HE'S UNEMPLOYED AND HOMELESS...LOOK AT THAT NUT - WHAT A MORON !!

You're not saying that you are a whisleblower are you? You're just a nut with an incorrect opinion and an axe to grind.

 

[beachnut]

Do you know what you call a whistleblower of 9/11? UNPATRIOTIC...a traitor...a TERRORIST...AN IDIOT...A CRAZY CONSPIRACY THEORIST WITH ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF - THAT GUY JUST HAS AN AXE TO GRIND MAN...WHAT AN IDIOT NOW - HE'S UNEMPLOYED AND HOMELESS...LOOK AT THAT NUT - WHAT A MORON !!

Deep Throat is a good name for whistleblowers - you have not studied anything!

You write books and make money - you get a Pulitzer Prize for using the whistle blower's information. Got Facts?

Too bad you are an uneducated guy, you could figure out we would reward the real whistleblower, they make real money.

The liars deserve what they get, a place of honor in the truth movement, you are a truth movement great at typing junk and regurgitating great amounts of CT junk. Devoid of facts, you are melting down.

 

[28th Kingdom]

Don’t you want to be part of the new Empire, or are you going to strike back?

( Yes I know it’s lame)

Lame...yes, but I still laughed.

May the farce be with you!

 

[beachnut]

Do you know what you call a whistleblower of 9/11? UNPATRIOTIC...a traitor...a TERRORIST...AN IDIOT...A CRAZY CONSPIRACY THEORIST WITH ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF - THAT GUY JUST HAS AN AXE TO GRIND MAN...WHAT AN IDIOT NOW - HE'S UNEMPLOYED AND HOMELESS...LOOK AT THAT NUT - WHAT A MORON !!

Are you getting your idiot ideas from Alex Jones?

 

[28th Kingdom]

Here's the problem with your logic...if one whistleblower came forward...you'd be like...well why just one? You would think if one came forward...there has to be more, so why hasn't anyone else came forward?

Do you see how you never get anywhere? Just more questions and new suspicions.