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This is the thread that may very well change the way you look at 9/11 FOREVER!

And what about all the non-government scientists, worldwide, that agreed with the NIST's results?

So if it's so obvious that the NIST is "in on it" why doesn't the mainstream media report it? Oh, I guess they are "in on it" as well

It's all or nothing, remember?

If the theory is correct then the worlds media must be in on it

the worlds architects must be in on it

the worlds structural engineers must be in on it

there is no halfway house here.....either everyone is in on it or it didn't happen.
 
there is no halfway house here.....either everyone is in on it or it didn't happen.

Exactly, and the conspiracy has to keep growing. A few months ago remains from victims of AA11 were identified through new DNA submitted by family members. The conspiracy liars yelled, "cover-up, lie, it can't be". I wonder if they realize that people who made the match in 2006 might not have worked for the NYC Medical Examiner's office in 2001.
 
They think that Enemy of the State (it's on UK telly right now) is a documentary, I fear.....
 
enemy of the state is a cracking film........

but it's fiction!!

Just as 'the matrix' is fiction

the woowoos have a serious problem with that concept
 
enemy of the state is a cracking film........

but it's fiction!!

Just as 'the matrix' is fiction

the woowoos have a serious problem with that concept


You think the adverts would be a giveaway, eh?

Ironically I have it on in the background and Will Smith just got to the "conspiracy theorists of the world unite" line whehe he's at Hackman's cubby hole.....
 
I think I've done enough to clearly illustrate the truth. I'm tired now...and this is obviously a never-ending circle of questions...and, since I have already presented at least two unmistakable smoking guns...I think I should be allowed to rest my case.

Good luck yall...seriously, I hope some of you open up and let the truth in...

Peace.

1. You have totally debunked yourself!
2. Each youTube presents evidence not supporting you claims.
3. Zero new facts.
4. You are right, you have show us the smoking gun that you are not able to make up a good story, but have to use thermite and PNAC to make 9/11 a real fantasy.

Bring facts next time. Good job promoting youTube. Did you ever look at the oxygen generators?
 
What the hell?!

sorry i'm just out of suspension.....it's been 3 days of hell, but deserved...apparently


yes the matix is just fiction though lord of the rings was based on fact and the orks did attack the two towers...or was it the hobbits?
 
Hey,

I NEVER said thermite is an explosive! Why do you say that? I haven't even opined about the full nature of the PET, because I honestly don't know exactly how it was pulled off. Try this on for size, though. Therma/ite was used to cut the core columns...so that they would remove themselves in a downwardly fashion...and then they used some type of explosives on the outer grid and floors etc. Doesn't really seem all that complex to me. (Remember, we have learned that the CORE COLUMNS...were a unique feature to the twin towers...so I guess that's why they had to do a hybrid type of demolition i.e. incendiary plus explosives. Because if they would have just used explosives, than the core columns would have remained standing. See, this is also why the WTC 7 collapse looks different than the WTC 1 & 2 collapses...because the WTC 7 did NOT have any core columns :)
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Okay, you never explicitly said thermite was an explosive. But you did imply that the presence of thermite would prove your "planted explosives theory". As there are a great number of CTists who have claimed that thermite is "an explosive used in controlled demolitions", one naturally assumed you were going the same way, as nothing else you've come up with has been at all different from the standard CT playbook.

The lesson here is: If you're going to use words, use them correctly, otherwise don't blame us for misunderstanding you.

As for the standard playbook, well: "Doesn't really seem all that complex to me".

One thing that has become abundantly clear, is that very few, if any, CTists have any experience doing actual physical tasks. They always simply dismiss any job that would need to be done to pull off their version of 9/11 as "not very hard", "not too complicated" or "easy".

Think about it for a minute. For your thermite/explosives hypothesis, you would need to:

1. Create some means of cutting horizontally or on an angle with thermite. This has never been done before.

2. Position all the needed thermite dveices (TD) on the correct columns, while the building is being used, without detection. This has never been done before.

3. Plant explosives on the other columns, again without being detected. This has never been done before.

4. Wire all of these TDs and explosives to produce a top-down CD, again without being detected. This has never been done before.

5. Have some sort of system for choosing on which floor the TDs and explosives are first detonated, so as to make them collapse at the levels the planes hit. This has never been done before.

6. Have all of this either sufficiently protected from both impact and fire that none of it goes off prematurely, and ruins everything, or have sufficient redundancy so that any charges that are destroyed can be covered by back ups. This has never been done before.

7. Set it all off so that there is no audio evidence of explosions at the time of collapse. This has never been done before.

8. Set it all off so that the only evidence of the TDs is that one little dribble. This has never been done before.

9. Do all of this on buildings about three times bigger than anything ever demolished by CD before. Do I really need to say, "This has never been done before"?

10. Do it all perfectly the first time.

11. Do it all perfectly the second time.

12. Come up with a whole new way to do all the explosive bits of points 1-9 perfectly the third time.

Did I miss anything?

And all of this "Doesn't really seem all that complex to" you? If you're really that good, I could use some help building a deck next spring.
 
How do we even know who OBL really is? IN the early 80's the US government referred to him and the Taliban as FREEDOM FIGHTERS...hell, even armed them and trained them to fight. How do you go from a freedom fighter to the world's most notorious terrorist?

Point your guns in a different direction.

Remember WWII, when the Soviets were our Allies?
 
You all still...think this is molten aluminum mixed with ambers from burning debris:

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/3550/thermiteic0.jpg

It's the exact same color as the molten metal pouring from WTC 2...which is the EXACT same color and consistency of thermite:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEmHJORTlqk

Come on guys...be objective here...what are the unbelievable odds...of silver molten aluminum mixing with burning ambers...and creating a perfectly uniform colored liquid metal? That is seen all over the towers...and always looks the same. I mean...come on guys and gals.

You do realize that video cameras don't really produce accurate reproductions of colours, right? That they're all just RGB or CYM approximations of true colours? And that different models of cameras go about this in different ways?

There's a reason spectrometers were invented, you know!
 
I've been avoiding this thread specifically because the title leads me immediatly to the thought that this is going to be yet another CT with stupendous 'proof' that 9/11 was an inside job by using assumption, contention and speculation in hand-waving arguements that simply do not have any technical backling of any sort.

I finally read the first post and I now think I should go for Randi's million bucks because damned if I ain't prescient!
 
Remember, how I was talking about the core columns being vertical to the ground...which meant they would have had to basically telescope down on themselves...because of the way the towers collapsed straight down (although the exterior of the building was blasted outwards) Well, that's why the columns were cut at an angle....because if they would have cut them completely horizontal...the force of gravity...would try to push the split column down upon itself. (not very effective...as trying to push solid steel through solid steel - kind of defies the laws of the physical world) However, if you cut it at an angle...like this pic...than once the cut is made, gravity can pull the split column in a downward direction.

The problem with that is the slag which you claim is on TOP of the column on THIS POST would have been wiped off the column by the scenario you describe above.
 
sorry i'm just out of suspension.....it's been 3 days of hell, but deserved...apparently


yes the matix is just fiction though lord of the rings was based on fact and the orks did attack the two towers...or was it the hobbits?

It was the jooos... oh, wait, what towers are we talking about again?
 
The therma/ite was probably just placed on one column...that was located probably a block or so just north from the WTC 2 Tower.

A block away from the tower? Really? Did they then launch it into each impact zone with a catapult after the crashes when no one was looking?

Of course, I'm just guessing here...but according to my calculations...the therma/ite definitely had to be used at a great distance...in order to preserve the fundamental components structure mass at qualitative intervals ... or something to that effect.
I can only guess that you're trying to be sarcastic here, as you start with a word you would never use, followed by a bunch of nonsense that resembles Christophera's infamous word salad of another thread.
 
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