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Loose Change - Part IV

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T.A.M. said:
Seems the EASIEST thing in the world would be to track down these employees and ask them what was on the tape...was it a plane, or a missile...how come a sleuth like D.A. and crowd havnt done that??
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What and do research? It would also blow a third of his fiction!
 
T.A.M. said:
I've got a question. In the new LC, the quote Dylan uses about the hotel tapes for the Pentagon crash, states that, "The Hotel Employees sat and watched the film in horror several times before the FBI confiscated it."

Seems the EASIEST thing in the world would be to track down these employees and ask them what was on the tape...was it a plane, or a missile...how come a sleuth like D.A. and crowd havnt done that??
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according to LC2 they were told not to talk about what they had seen (although i doubt they would have remained silent if it was obviously not a 757....but hey, add them to the "conspirators" list)
 
Submersible said:
What did ya'll come up with on tower 7 ?
It's foundation just got tired of holding the building up after it watched tower 1 & 2 fall out of the sky? Was it sad or depressed that it's next door neighbors dropped out of the sky like a sack of hammers?
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Seven hours of raging, completely unfought fire, will do nasty things to a building's structure. Y'all seem to forget that little detail.
 
Submersible said:
Watch the video agaon but this time put it on mute.
The FDA can find scientist from around the world to say that aspartame is safe for human consumption, when it contains a healthy dose of methanol and formaldehyde. fact.
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And your tap water contains a healthy dose of Chlorine. You don't impress me with scaremongering.

"We the people" are not on the same team as the USG anymore , that's all I'm trying to say.
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And I'm trying to tell you that whatever our government's interst in us or lack therof is not aided by fools like you MAKING UP SH**** FANTASIES ABOUT CONSPIRACIES.
 
Submersible said:
What did ya'll come up with on tower 7 ?
It's foundation just got tired of holding the building up after it watched tower 1 & 2 fall out of the sky? Was it sad or depressed that it's next door neighbors dropped out of the sky like a sack of hammers?
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Nope. It was damaged by the collapse of WTC 1 (North Tower). I've got some pretty pictures here. There were also numerous fires raging in the building, possible fueled by diesel tanks in the building which were intended to power generators in the event of a blackout. From pictures I have seen the worst fires were on the 7th floor, which is crucial because floors 5-7 were where the loads from the upper floors were transferred to the electrical power substation atop which the building was constructed.

Pardon me for not going back through this thread and seeing if anybody showed you guys the before and during images of tower 7 as the basement flew out from underneath it.
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Just an amusing turn of language there, or are we supposed to refute the flying basement theory?

Bye bye tower 7, bye bye CIA.
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Yes, the federal government wanted to get rid of a CIA office. Hey, I remember that movie!

Somebody here please explain when and how the CIA was 'born' and I'll shut up and go the other way., please !
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The CIA morphed out of the OSS (Office of Strategic Services), a World War II intelligence gathering unit. Originally known as the Central Intelligence Group, it was formally established by the National Security Act of 1947.
 
Submersible said:
"They" recovered videotape from the convience store and a hotel and the DMV...
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And why, exactly, do you expect these videos to have anything? Convenicne stores typically have their cameras pointed and focused close, same with hotels, DMVs aren;t much different. Do you think commercial properties are in the habit of pointing their secutiry buildings at public buildings in the hopes that something will happen?

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supposedly, according to the Loose Change video. And if none of those exist, how could the only footage they let us see NOT contain a clear image of a 757 as it approached the pentagon. [/QUOTE]

Very easily: They were simple cameras designed to watch the parking lot. They took only 1 pic per second or so.

What was it, about 3 months ago when they finally released ONE more clip from their video tapes and it had nothing on it that resembled a 757.
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So? Seems like the Pentagon cameras didn't capture much.

Like it or not, I demand more peace of mind for my family than what is being offered by the USG.
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You might start by not making up government boogey-men and scaring your children with this nonsense.
 
The schedual for Friday, August 18, 2006, at 8:30 a.m. (EDT) for the CBC Radio show "The Current" says:
"Conspiracy theories still swirl about the events of September 11th. This morning, The Current looks at what those theories say about U-S politics and culture."

The Current is non-Woo and is usually pretty good. It is not a phone-in show and has researchers who actually try and find the truth (whatever that may be).

The show's website is <ht tp:/ /ww w.cbc. ca/the current/ > (without the spaces, of course).

It is available via the i'net and on Sirius (the satellite radio service -- I don't know about availability on the star).

The promo I heard implied that some of the "Scholars for Truth" would be interviewed.

Gord
 
Most of those links didn't work but it did change my perception some, thanks Gravy.

The Pentagon = Not one single image showing evidence of a 757 on approach, inside or outside of the building as it burned nor in the debris. This 757 supposedly "vaporized" also.


Another falsehood. (Graphic photo)
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They did have people inside the building didn't they ?

This is a valid poiint. Congratulations! You did better than Dylan Avery!
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How can he pretend as if the Port Authority tapes that were released in 11-04 didn't make him and the mayor both appear to be part of the cover-up ?

No, Submersible, they investigated the crime scene and collected every scrap of human remains they could find. Would you like to have had that job? It's not a good idea to compound ignorance with rudeness. Please do your homework.
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I've had that job, not on such a large scale, but I've had that job.
It's not as if our media protects U.S. from the gore of war and life that takes place around the world and in this country, so why are there no, or very few images of human remains on these two crash scenes ?

If one body remained intact inside of the pentagon then the rest of them couldn't have burned away.

Why don't you just throw your best piece of evidence at us? I guarantee you we've covered it before.
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did you google that image of Ground Zero?
How could the foundation fail to support the falling debris ?
 
It's not as if our media protects U.S. from the gore of war and life that takes place around the world and in this country, so why are there no, or very few images of human remains on these two crash scenes ?
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crime scenes are sensative areas, they geenrally dont let the media run around all over the place

If one body remained intact inside of the pentagon then the rest of them couldn't have burned away.
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this assumes conditions were identical everywhere, and that soemthign 50 feet form the crash would be burned the same amoutn as soemthing 5 feet from the crash

How could the foundation fail to support the falling debris ?
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ive calculated this before, when the 79th floor hit the 78th floor it excerted a force of roughly 9 million tons, this force only grew larger as the collapse progressed
 
The CIA morphed out of the OSS (Office of Strategic Services), a World War II intelligence gathering unit. Originally known as the Central Intelligence Group, it was formally established by the National Security Act of 1947.
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Who did they gather ?

Yes, as you can see from the photo below, WTC 7 was severely damaged:

Here's a graphic estimate of how much of the building was actually damaged by the impact of Tower One:
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That image you have posted in your blog showing the damage to tower 7 is FAR from realistic.

Yes, the federal government wanted to get rid of a CIA office. Hey, I remember that movie!
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It was all a dream.
 
That image you have posted in your blog showing the damage to tower 7 is FAR from realistic
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perhaps you should show us a picture that is more realistic? will it also be based on fire fighters reports of the scene?
 
Through a tonne of footage and through numerous testimony, it is fact that the tower impacts and colapses caused millions of pieces of paper to fall to the ground....so.

If you wanted to eliminate the paper trails of various "entities" how would you best go about it...

que Jeopardy music.....

Dum dadumdumdum dum dum..boom bang.

(1) Shred it all
(2) Blow up the building it is stored in, releasing millions of pieces of paper (incriminating papers included) into the air for the public to see, and potentially read...

Your answers please...
 
supposedly, according to the Loose Change video. And if none of those exist, how could the only footage they let us see NOT contain a clear image of a 757 as it approached the pentagon.
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Very easily: They were simple cameras designed to watch the parking lot. They took only 1 pic per second or so.
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Plus most camera's in terms of sercurity would point in the direction of the building and not the surrounding area. And the Pentagon uses live sercurity for the most part.
 
Submersible said:
Most of those links didn't work but it did change my perception some, thanks Gravy.
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AAARGH! Thanks for letting me know. It's the ones with the ellipses (...) in them, which were cut and pasted from another post. They all worked yesterday. I'll fix them.
 
chipmunk stew said:
I'm fairly certain there are still people who think that was real.
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The difference is Blair Witch Project was a totally manufactured event cleverly presented and marketed in such a way that it appeared to be true...

On the other hand LC is... oh... wait...

-Andrew
 
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