Weaponized peer-pressure

[Fonebone]

My apologies, Fonebone, my response to your OP was rude.

No apologies required ferd, A little levity is sometimes constructive if good-natured.

I do have a favor to ask of you if you please.

 

[Fonebone]

While I still don't know what the OP is talking about (because he didn't talk about it, but mindlessly linked to a faceybooky post),

I disagree. Perhaps I failed to make myself clear in the OP but the fact that you didn't view the supplied link is
the true reason you still don't know the OP is talking about. Your failure to take the smallest efforts to view that link
is your prerogative but you could have simply asked a peer that is a member of Facebook to click the link.

I think peer pressure is a good descriptor.

I had once visited an beautiful little town in South America that had absolutely zero litter or cigarette butts anywhere in the village.
When I commented on the beauty and cleanliness the Innkeeper stated the town had no sanitation crews or street sweepers because the citizens decided ages ago to gently police each other with informal peer-pressure to keep the town tidy.

My peers are those who value science, individual well-being, and the common good. I want them to pressure me to do what is scientificly sound, to my personal benefit, and in the interests of the common good.

All positive and laudable virtues. Personally, I do not smoke cigarettes and I'm nauseous anywhere near second hand smoke.
I also recognize that others have rights as well.
Decent people do not need a monitor, a mother hen, a big brother, nor a police state to be free and content.

If they have to beat me over the head with it like a weapon (it is needed on occasion), that's cool

Abide by the constitution and mind your own business and I will do likewise.

Weaponize that action.

Be careful what you wish for. Weapons in the hands of madmen can be harnessed and abused.

 

[Fonebone]

La plume de ma tante est sur la table.

My aunt's pen is on the table.

 

[Helen]

It's always nice to see our Nordic members show such unity

We love each other, we're siblings. Draw your own conclusions about sibling love.

 

[Pixel42]

Abide by the constitution and mind your own business and I will do likewise.

Unfortunately that simplistic formula, attractive as it sounds, can have serious downsides. For example some people can't be vaccinated, and depend on enough other people being vaccinated for herd immunity to be achieved, if they are to be protected from possibly fatal diseases.

There are plenty of examples of choices made by someone "minding their own business" directly affecting other people's quality of life, and even life expectancy. No man is an island, entire of itself.

Be careful what you wish for. Weapons in the hands of madmen can be harnessed and abused.

Indeed, we are currently seeing plenty of examples of that as a result of a madman being elected POTUS.

 

[SteveAitch]

La plume de ma tante est sur la table.

mais ou est le maison de fromage?

 

[steenkh]

I thought it was the Danes who had a nonsensical number system.

We share it with the French …

 

[jimbob]

We share it with the French …

And I guess there are remnants in English, too. "Three score years and ten" probably being the most well known example

 

[Helen]

We share it with the French …

Oh no, you're not getting off easy; you're far worse than the French That whole halvtreds/halvfjerds/halvfems thingy? Not even the French are that perverted!

 

[zooterkin]

And I guess there are remnants in English, too. "Three score years and ten" probably being the most well known example

Or "four and twenty blackbirds".

 

[steenkh]

Oh no, you're not getting off easy; you're far worse than the French That whole halvtreds/halvfjerds/halvfems thingy? Not even the French are that perverted!

It is halfway to the next score. What's so difficult about it?

But jokes aside, at school back in the previous century, we learned to use numbers like femtito, or ottini for use when filling out cheques, or in conversation with our Nordic brethren. I wonder if children still learns that.

 

[arthwollipot]

Or "four and twenty blackbirds".

Not the same, because "four and twenty" is just a way of saying "twenty four" in a way that fits into a poetic metre. "Four score and ten" is counting twenty as one thing which doesn't fit in with our decimal number system.

 

[Helen]

It is halfway to the next score. What's so difficult about it?

But jokes aside, at school back in the previous century, we learned to use numbers like femtito, or ottini for use when filling out cheques, or in conversation with our Nordic brethren. I wonder if children still learns that.

Trying to wriggle your way out of it, are you? To any decent, self-respecting person, halvtreds would be 30, not 50, halvfjerds 40, not 70, and halvfems 50, not 90!

Most Danes seem to be able to switch, when they meet bewildered Swedes, however And since I have a thing for languages and the deeply confusing and strange things they do, I love it - the more opaque, the better!

 

[jimbob]

It is halfway to the next score. What's so difficult about it?

There's a number for that, it's called "ten". Which is a useful number because of the number of digits that most people have on their hands without using their toes.

We don't call 150 one and a half hundred _{^{except for years when we might say one and a half centuries}}

But jokes aside, at school back in the previous century, we learned to use numbers like femtito, or ottini for use when filling out cheques, or in conversation with our Nordic brethren. I wonder if children still learns that.

See, you use the conventional system when you need to, and write the numbers in base ten. (Something that makes sense with Arabic numerals but not Roman)

Basically, I think Helen has a point.

Not even the French are that perverted!

 

[Thermal]

I disagree. Perhaps I failed to make myself clear in the OP

In the sense that you didnt say anything at all, yes.

but the fact that you didn't view the supplied link is
the true reason you still don't know the OP is talking about.

Absolutely not. It is your burden and no one elses, to present your argument. Linking to FB or YT or a paywalled site is a punk out.

This is important: it is not the readers responsibility to surrender money, data, or give views to sites in order for you to make your argument. That burden is on you and you alone. It is considered good form to additionally link only to provide your source for verifying, and that link should be viewable without the reader surrendering anything.

Your failure to take the smallest efforts to view that link
is your prerogative but you could have simply asked a peer that is a member of Facebook to click the link.

LOL, oh yeah, that's a solution. I'll just ask a coworker or stranger on the street to borrow their phone while they stand there and wait for me to give it back, while I take notes in order to debate later. That has the added benefit of polluting their algorithms with goofball crap that they probably don't want clogging up their recommendations and feeds with. I have been deluged with quite enough gratuitous tin foil hat nuttery on my own YT suggestions because of this freaking site.

It is your job, and no one else's, to make your argument here in your own words.

I had once visited an beautiful little town in South America that had absolutely zero litter or cigarette butts anywhere in the village.
When I commented on the beauty and cleanliness the Innkeeper stated the town had no sanitation crews or street sweepers because the citizens decided ages ago to gently police each other with informal peer-pressure to keep the town tidy.

Which is a good thing.

All positive and laudable virtues. Personally, I do not smoke cigarettes and I'm nauseous anywhere near second hand smoke.
I also recognize that others have rights as well.
Decent people do not need a monitor, a mother hen, a big brother, nor a police state to be free and content.

The adage goes "your right to punch stops at my nose". I got the Vax not because I was worried about *me* getting sick; I wanted to minimize the chances of carrying and spreading to others, who might react far worse to it. Herd immunity and all that. I'm kinda glad the polio wards aren't still being filled. Are you?

Abide by the constitution and mind your own business and I will do likewise.

The Constitution is irrelevant to this issue, and it becomes my business when you electively help to spread a highly contagious virus to others. Unless you have gone off in hiding, separating yourself from others that you could transfer the virus too? Is that your claim? If not, you are absolutely infringing on the rights of others through your willful passive enabling of contamination.

Be careful what you wish for. Weapons in the hands of madmen can be harnessed and abused.

Absolutely. That's why i qualified it with those who share my social values. I had to be prodded to initially get the Vax. I personally don't really get sick much, as in I don't even remember when the last time I was laid up in bed with anything, covid, flu, anything at all. But not everyone has the same system as me, so I absolutely have an obligation to the pack to not be a carrier who will sicken them by my very presence. My rights end where their nose starts.

And btw (and sincerly), thanks for engaging in the discussion, even if I still have no idea what you are arguing beyond the vague implications of the title and OP.

Eta: this is, as I keep pointing out, a discussion site. We debate via the written word, in our own words. Can you imagine the inanity of a site where the OP is a YT link, then the first reply is another YT link with a contradictory opinion, and on and on? It would take literally hours to debate an issue that could be written and read in a couple minutes, due to the specific and focused nature of direct replies.

Does dueling videos with no substantial text sound like engaging forum reading and debate? Cuz you are quite literally playing your role in that in the OP.

 

[arthwollipot]

There's a number for that, it's called "ten". Which is a useful number because of the number of digits that most people have on their hands without using their toes.

Also the basis for our decimal place-value number system.

 

[Foster Zygote]

Oh no, you're not getting off easy; you're far worse than the French That whole halvtreds/halvfjerds/halvfems thingy? Not even the French are that perverted!

As one of Scott Thompson's characters observed in a The Kids in the Hall sketch, "the French language is just an excuse to smoke".

 

[Carrot Flower King]

Not the same, because "four and twenty" is just a way of saying "twenty four" in a way that fits into a poetic metre. "Four score and ten" is counting twenty as one thing which doesn't fit in with our decimal number system.

See also German (well, certainly as I was taught it back in the '70s): vier und zwanzig was the standard usage.

 

[P.J. Denyer]

The vaccine turned me into a Dane?!?

So long as it wasn't a Great one...


ETA Long ninja'd

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Not the same, because "four and twenty" is just a way of saying "twenty four" in a way that fits into a poetic metre.

Aside from those bloody poets everyone knows it's two dozen blackbirds.