Why Are the Majority of Those in Hell the Poor and Oppressed Masses?

[P.J. Denyer]

I was referencing the birds aren't real meme. Use turtles The Turkish instead if that works better for you.

Seems more appropriate.

ETA: Ninja'd by 8enotto.

 

[EHocking]

I think I'm gonna print up Birds Aren't Turkish t-shirts and retire early.

What about Turkeys?
They at least represent one of the US condemned that should genuinely be pardoned.

 

[Thermal]

What about Turkeys?

That's one of them pair o' ducks.

 

[Orphia Nay]

What about Turkeys?

Don't you mean "What about Türkiyes?"

 

[Reformed Offlian]

Why Are the Majority of Those in Hell the Poor and Oppressed Masses?​

Because your sadistic God has a warped sense of humor?

Hey, don't start any blasphemous rumours.

 

[Reformed Offlian]

Was she Karving her initials on the m00t with the sharpened end of an interspace t00thbrush given by Svenge - her brother-in-law - an Oslo dentist and star of many Norwegian m0vies: “The H0t Hands of an Oslo Dentist”, “Fillings of Passion”, “The Huge M0lars of Horst Nordfink”.?

She was before everyone involved got sacked.

 

[JayUtah]

Tony the Wonder Llama was Turkish.

 

[junkshop]

Hey, don't start any blasphemous rumours.

Well, now I have to give Some Great Reward a spin before I go to bed.

 

[dann]

...
Certain verses in the Quran state that in Hell, the "oppressed" (mustad'afun) will curse the "arrogant" (mustakbirun) who oppressed them in the world. This reveals a striking truth: In Hell, there are more poor and oppressed masses who obeyed without questioning than there are others. This is because these people, using their powerlessness merely as an excuse, bowed down to wrong and betrayed their own free will.

I love this, Emre!
The poor and oppressed masses definitely shouldn't obey and bow down. They should rebel against the conditions that oppress and impoverish them. Accepting oppression and poverty is a disgrace.

Furthermore, evil people begin to suffer in this world as well; for this reason, the majority of hell-bound people live in poverty and oppression in this universe too...
...

They do indeed suffer in this world, i.e. hell on earth, but that's the only world there is. There is neither hell nor heaven, no other universe after life.
However, hell on earth is more than reason enough to fight against oppression and poverty. Hoping for pie in the sky, a post-mortem reward for putting up with oppression and poverty, is an idea that preachers come up with and believers find comforting. It's an important part of ideological oppression.

 

[Reformed Offlian]

Hoping for pie in the sky, a post-mortem reward for putting up with oppression and poverty, is an idea that preachers come up with and believers find comforting. It's an important part of ideological oppression.

The "hope 'e et" of the masses? Sorry, couldn't resist.

 

[winter salt]

Jesus said no one goes to either Heaven or Hell until Judgement Day. I'm not sure if that's one of the things Muhammad incorporated as is, or changed, when he made up Islam. But I know Jesus seemed pretty sure the rich had less chance of getting to Heaven than the poor, so if Muhammad says the opposite that's a clear difference between the two sets of made up beliefs.

He says what Jesus says also, or copied the same thing. There multiple of "his sayings" on this topic. I'm not sure if they're in the Quran though. I have no further interest to remember or search if they're. The verses the OP quoted has nothing to do with the statistics of heaven and hell. It's telling the living oppressed to rise up to dictators. Maybe that's a one good thing in that religion.

 

[sackett]

The only Carl Sandburg pome I ever memorized:

Oh in the sweet
(Gimme some meat)
By and by
(Gimme some pie)
There'll be pie
In the sky
By and by.

 

[Helen]

The only Carl Sandburg pome I ever memorized:

Oh in the sweet
(Gimme some meat)
By and by
(Gimme some pie)
There'll be pie
In the sky
By and by.

It's by Joe Hill, though, I think. Who was Swedish, like all the other Turks.

 

[sackett]

It's by Joe Hill, though, I think. Who was Swedish, like all the other Turks.

Odd. I saw* it in a Sandburgh collection. Sounds more like him than like Joe Hill: unmetrical, ill-rhymed,
and not much to any point.

* According to my impeccable memory of high school in the 1950s. Back
then, if you wanted a high school diploma, you had to go to Turkey and bribe
the Bımbashı of Education. But you knew that.

 

[Helen]

I think sandburg added the parentheses, they're not in the original; Joe Hill parodied a salvation army song, and the original is quite good.

https://genius.com/Joe-hill-the-preacher-and-the-slave-lyrics

*I had to go there in the 70s for mine. Cost me an arm and a leg, so thank Oden for universal healthcare.

 

[sackett]

The Joe Hill movie has the actor singing the long-haired preacher version.

It also has him innocent of the murder, but refusing to use his alibi because he was with a lady* that night.
Alas, I think he did it.

* A lady married to a respectable city father & business boss! Oooo, how gallant Joe was!

 

[ahhell]

It's by Joe Hill, though, I think. Who was Swedish, like all the other Turks.

No, no, all Swedes are Turks but not Turks are Swedes!

No idea if Joe Hill killed the man he was accused of killing but he was certainly up to something that night. Seems to have come to believe he'd be a good martyr for the labor movement, which I'd buy if he'd died convicted of some crime related to the labor movement rather than killing a shop keeper.

 

[Darat]

Jesus said no one goes to either Heaven or Hell until Judgement Day. ...snip...

Yeah just one more lie he told.

 

[Rusty Tyler]

Since Hell does not exist, this topic is quite moot.

How did you arrive at that conclusion?
I agree, but wonder why you reject the idea.

 

[Steve]

How did you arrive at that conclusion?
I agree, but wonder why you reject the idea.

If I may - lack of evidence is sufficient to draw such a conclusion. Occam's razor applies.