If he isn't allowed to pollute the Earth to get to Mars we will never get to Mars? Oh well that's a pity.
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Cont: Musk, SpaceX and future of Tesla II
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dirtywick
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https://www.notateslaapp.com/news/2255/camouflaged-robotaxi-prototype-spotted-at-warner-bros-studio
looks like tesla is at the closed course studio testing their prototype robotaxi in preparation for the reveal. while i’m not completely convinced somebody won’t be killed by one during the event, i do want to keep my told you so options open here.
looks like tesla is at the closed course studio testing their prototype robotaxi in preparation for the reveal. while i’m not completely convinced somebody won’t be killed by one during the event, i do want to keep my told you so options open here.
jeremyp
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He's supposed to be concentrating on getting to the Moon. He has a contract with NASA to fulfil.
jeremyp
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So the reveal will be two months late. Elon will announce a production date of 2026 and then we need to factor in two (Cybertruck), three (Semi), maybe never (Model 2) or definitely never (new Roadster) years of delay.
Then the Robotaxi will initially be operated by a human driver and limited to 35 mph. Also, it will look suspiciously like a normal Model Y and cost $150k.
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Not surprising he's always missing his predicted release dates
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/sep/14/elon-musk-tweets-trump-conspiracy
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/sep/14/elon-musk-tweets-trump-conspiracy
a_unique_person
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His X gig is the most important work he's got these days. It's the greatest expression of his genius.
plague311
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I was reading that BMW beat Tesla in EV sales but I can't remember where and I'm too lazy to look it up.
Gulliver Foyle
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Robtaxis will be like commercial cold fusion reactors, always twenty years in the future.
jeremyp
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Given that Musk is using the concept of robotaxis to prop up the Tesla share price fraudulently, you could argue that robtaxis already exist.
3point14
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Am I the only one that thinks Starship as lunar lander is an utterly mental idea?
The one time men have landed on the moon they did so in the spacecraft equivalent of a go-kart. A craft with absolutely the essentials and nothing else.
I realise there's been a lot of advances in material science, engine technology and the like in the last 60 years, but I really can't see the point in hauling all that extra mass- with all that entails in fuel costs and thrust requirements - down to the lunar surface and back up into lunar orbit again.
I can't see it working. I could be wrong.
Andy_Ross
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In various tweets he's said that he's backing Trump because he will get rid of all the unnecessary red tape holding back his Mars mission. It's essential for the future survival of mankind which is more important than a bit of pollution.
jeremyp
Philosopher
No. I do too.
It's important to realise that the ambition is more than just "land, get some rocks, take off" this time. They do need something more substantial than the original LEM. However, SpaceX was in competition with two other landers both of which were further progressed in design and both of which looked more plausible than landing a Starship on the Moon.
It's never going to happen. The number of Starship launches required to fuel a trip to the Moon is somewhere in the teens and they have to do this more than once to get people on the Moon. At the same time Musk wants to do an unmanned trip to Mars in two years which will require a similar number of Starship launches. So far, they have had one successful test flight out of four.
They need to achieve orbit with a full payload and recovery after re-entry. None of those things have even been demonstrated yet.
jeremyp
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No it isn't.
Even if Musk eventually gets to Mars, almost all of us will be staying here on Earth. It's much more important for our future (as opposed to Musk's future and a few other people) not to screw up this planet.
Checkmite
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See I had started writing some fun musings about conceptualism and ontology and halfway through it figured out that you were just making a pun about the typo, and now I'm sad.
Checkmite
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Yeah...I remain more than a little dubious about that last part, I have to say.
commandlinegamer
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I think that second sentence was also an indirect quote from Musk.
Gulliver Foyle
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Their lander makes no sense from a dimensions perspective alone. Never mind the issues with refilling the damned rocket in space.
When mankind can evacuate to Mars, there is no reason to cut down on emissions on Earth. “Mankind” being of course a bunch of rich guys - and their servants.
theprestige
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Nobody can evacuate to Mars. Not now, not in the foreseeable future. The mankind that could plausibly evacuate to Mars would be so far beyond the petty need to live on a specific planet that it would be a stretch to still refer to them as "mankind".