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Alien Visitation Contact Proof

Pixel42 said:
Why do you ignore the "honestly mistaken" possibility, which is by far the most likely explanation?

Most people have no idea just how easily they can inadvertently fool themselves into believing something that is not true, especially if it's something they want to believe.
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Because every single person who has seen one In person has said the same thing, until I saw one I was a skeptic or skeptical

Too many people, you show me a blury image of a plane I'll identify it, show me a blury rocket, I'll identify it, when I can't identify it, there's good reason be blury or crystal clear it's unknown and not identifiable

It's not unidentifiable because it's blury, quiz shows have proved that for decades the human brain can see through it, usually

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dMr9MZG_yavtb98Zn5IQywpbKAzmeyTJ/view?usp=drivesdk

Here's a blury photo, I guess we'll never know what that is!

Blury means unknown, not that it's blury, take a photo of a bird in a tree and show me a clear high resolution photo a few meters away before you ridicule people for taking blurry photos a few thousand meters away
 
cjdelphi said:
Because every single person who has seen one In person has said the same thing, until I saw one I was a skeptic or skeptical

Too many people, you show me a blury image of a plane I'll identify it, show me a blury rocket, I'll identify it, when I can't identify it, there's good reason be blury or crystal clear it's unknown and not identifiable

It's not unidentifiable because it's blury, quiz shows have proved that for decades the human brain can see through it, usually

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dMr9MZG_yavtb98Zn5IQywpbKAzmeyTJ/view?usp=drivesdk

Here's a blury photo, I guess we'll never know what that is!

Blury means unknown, not that it's blury, take a photo of a bird in a tree and show me a clear high resolution photo a few meters away before you ridicule people for taking blurry photos a few thousand meters away
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Pathetic analogy. Because you compare it to a very clear real-life image of the object that you (and almost everyone else) are already very familiar with. Now how about you provide for comparison a very clear real-life image of an actual alien (or their means of transportation) for us to compare to the blurry images.
 
Gamolon said:
As someone else pointed out previously, this is a weird thing to say. Sounds like you're here trying to see how many people you can scam.

Just saying.
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I'm a programmer, I'm an expert in logic I use formulas and logic to prove something is true or not, you can't have two lies that are true, so 1 can always be ruled out leaving the truth, which that is depends on your intelligence

I would outwit him because he tried with me and failed .. you can't solve a logic problem with half arsed code, you need to test for every situation , so unless everything is explained, it doesn't fit, yet we all agree if I'm right that aliens could do this ..

What people are having a hard time accepting is, this happens or that they think it can be explained by a power surge, well a bunch of electricians certainly don't think it was electric, they might not think it's alien either but electrical can be ruled out

That leaves air traffic nothing we have is silent, we burn fuel which makes noise, helicopters can't scan the ground without being heard and lighting up the entire street

Other than aliens, what's left? Sky divers with torches at 4am? Here in Adelaide? Lol it's a city for old people

The government with secret tech? That's less plausible than aliens

Future humans.. maybe, can't really rule it out

What else car would be seen in the video, it's a 1 way entry and out, nothing behind us like a car could be seen this side and any cars coming in would be seen no question

Nothing explains the light the sound and the time skip emi and emf would pixelate the image or black out the pixels entirely

... no I did not fake it

What is left? Ghosts? Pffft

I was tired for 5 days after it like I lost 7 or 8 hours sleep, the light intensity stops outside my window, the shadows match the light source if my outside bulb above my window, the light had to stop there or the shadows would be different

And again, after the power went out, it was seconds later the search beam hit the ground, that's a very long time in the electronic world, end would be at the time the power went out and only then

Because the power was out nothing digital would make a noise seconds after the power went out, the capacitors would have discharged by then

How about satellites bouncing light?

Nope, too far and if it did, the whole street would be lit up, the fact is nothing does what we see!
 
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cjdelphi said:
Because every single person who has seen one In person has said the same thing, until I saw one I was a skeptic or skeptical
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Yes, until the circumstances arise which cause them to be honestly mistaken themselves they are sceptical about the things other people are honestly mistaken about.

There's a reason why anecdotal evidence is only sufficient to form an hypothesis, not reach a conclusion. Our perceptions, cognitive abilities and memory are simply not reliable enough for the latter. That's why it was necessary to invent the scientific method.
 
Steve said:
So, cjdelphi, in 3 days here and with over 130 posts you have yet to convince a single poster here on this little internet backwater discussion board that anything out of the ordinary occurred. Your arguments in favor of an alien encounter have been thoroughly refuted. Do you expect that to change? You are merely presenting the same few arguments over and over. What do you really expect to accomplish here now? Do you expect some miraculous break-through where one or more of us will suddenly see the light and start supporting you? Would it not be more productive for you to take your so-called evidence somewhere that like-minded people would fall all over themselves discussing the minutae of your "encounter"?
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You a mind reader? How do you know that?...

Ok mr smart guy, why you in a skeptic forum with other skeptics? Is it so you can push your views and have others with the same identical views look up to you?

I'm in a shark tank because I'm in a rock solid shark cage... got it...
 
Jack by the hedge said:
You have one LED lamp which glowed a bit. It doesn't direct light at the tree. You don't know what brief malformed waveform appeared on the mains when a reconnection was attempted. You cannot say what random things might have begun to power up without noticeable effect. You just stick to your adamant but unsupported assertion that everything should have powered up or nothing at all. What we see is one of your LED lights giving a feeble glow.

I'm not making demands of a utility company on the other side of the planet just because the local guy with the extraordinary claims prefers to cling to those and not seek the mundane truth.

First line customer support not providing you with technical details does not imply they're in league with space aliens.
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You ain't getting it, did you see all the lights come on in the video?... no, in which case your idea of my 1 and only LED bulb switching on is a non starter ..

Show me the other lights dimly coming on, if you can't, drop it
 
arthwollipot said:
If aliens really are visiting us, why are there no truly clear photos of them? Everybody today carries around a high-fidelity still and video camera in their pockets and purses. Why can no-one catch a clear image of an alien?.
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Indeed!

Back in the 1950s, home-movie cameras such as 8mm and super 8mm were rare. You'd be lucky if one person in a thousand had one, and they were very rarely carried routinely. They were usually used for things like family outings, weddings and other social gatherings, and with a limit of 4 to 8 minutes per film cartridge, they were pricey to buy and process, so they were used sparingly.

Then, as we moved into the 1970s to the 1990s, VHS, 8mm and later, miniDV movie cameras became available, maybe one family in ten would own one. The cassettes (and in some cases 3" DVDs) were capable of recording up to 3 hours - they were cheap and require no post-processing. The cameras themselves were also comparatively cheap compared with 8mm movie film cameras.

On into the 2000s, and we start to see digital home move cameras that record either on to SD cards, or an internal HDD (and later SSD) capabale of recording dozens of hours, the later ones being extremely high quality.

Later in the 2000s we see mobile phones with movie cameras that have evolve into smartphones with HD recording, that have dozens, in some cases, hundreds of hours of video recording capability. They are also widespread - as of August 2022, the current number of smartphone users in the world is 6.648 billion, and this means 83.37% of the world's population owns a smartphone, and the vast majority carry them on their person every waking minute of the day.

And yet, with all this massive increase in the capability, the capacity and the popularity of personal video recording devices, there not only have NOT been an increase in the number of UFO sighting recorded, there has actually been a decline. Furthermore, with all those widespread smartphones in the pockets of 83% of the population, NOT ONE clear, unambiguous video of a bona-fide alien spacecraft has ever been presented.

According to the cultural historian Stuart Walton, "It isn't so much that belief can exist without proof; it's that it must emphatically avoid proof to remain belief. We are in the process, paradoxically, of proving a negative hypothesis with UFOs: there never was any such thing."
 
Steve said:
Pathetic analogy. Because you compare it to a very clear real-life image of the object that you (and almost everyone else) are already very familiar with. Now how about you provide for comparison a very clear real-life image of an actual alien (or their means of transportation) for us to compare to the blurry images.
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You wouldn't know what one looks like (nor me) to say it is one...

Asking me for proof of aliens is ridiculous when I'm offering proof of alien contact, I hope you understand the difference
 
cjdelphi said:
What people are having a hard time accepting is, this happens or that they think it can be explained by a power surge, well a bunch of electricians certainly don't think it was electric, they might not think it's alien either but electrical can be ruled out
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You're extrapolating from being told it's not a brown out to extraterrestrials.

Your go-to is UFOs without even considering for example you might be the victim of an elaborate prank. Not that I think it is one, but that doesn't need the involvement of things which haven't been reliably shown to exist.

Your threshold for credulity in alien explanations is so low you have convinced yourself that you have used logic to consider and eliminate every real-world possibility. You're kidding yourself.
 
I challenge everyone here to post a clear photo of a bird in a tree using their phone without it being blurry


If you can't, stop asking for ridiculous evidence
 
Jack by the hedge said:
You're extrapolating from being told it's not a brown out to extraterrestrials.

Your go-to is UFOs without even considering for example you might be the victim of an elaborate prank. Not that I think it is one, but that doesn't need the involvement of things which haven't been reliably shown to exist.

Your threshold for credulity in alien explanations is so low you have convinced yourself that you have used logic to consider and eliminate every real-world possibility. You're kidding yourself.
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You have yet to offer up a valid explanation, mine fits, yours does not, until yours fits ... keep it up!
 
cjdelphi said:
You ain't getting it, did you see all the lights come on in the video?... no, in which case your idea of my 1 and only LED bulb switching on is a non starter ..

Show me the other lights dimly coming on, if you can't, drop it
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If there were identical lights under all the eaves of all the buildings then your camera would not have picked up their dim glow. It only saw that one because it shone right down on the foreground of the image.

I reject your bald assertion that every light of every type should have glowed similarly.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
If there were identical lights under all the eaves of all the buildings then your camera would not have picked up their dim glow. It only saw that one because it shone right down on the foreground of the image.

I reject your bald assertion that every light of every type should have glowed similarly.
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You can't make 1 bulb glow dimly and have the rest stay off, voltage would have to flow through all of them, but I know the power was clean out based on the fact everything was off

And you expect people to believe the light on peoples houses 60 meters away is also my 1 magical led light bulb on dim ..

Well it doesn't make any sound when that light goes on and off and my lights light up the car and tree that search beam did not! clutching at straws are we?
 
cjdelphi said:
You have yet to offer up a valid explanation, mine fits, yours does not, until yours fits ... keep it up!
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Yours has visiting space aliens, miniature fusion reactors and ion drives which can produce over 1G of thrust without causing any more damage than a bat in a power line can do. Occam's razor beckons.
 
cjdelphi said:
... clutching at straws are we?
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Not in the least. I'm just amused by how wedded you are to your make-believe UFO story that you reject as literally impossible the notion that one LED might glow a bit without larger lamps powering up.
 
Gamolon said:
How did you create this video clip?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qm_2zaSZljs
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Xiaomi Mi 360 Camera

It's powered by USB, for Christmas I bought myself a $400 lifepo4 100amp hour battery I connect the led light up and camera, I wish I never connected up the led ebay light now as it obscured the view of the search beam

Anyway I hooked up a switching voltage regulator stepping 13.6v to 5v usb power with juicy capacitors to filter any noise, then that is fed to the camera which is self contained, no video cables to get interference on

The power company woke me up saying they will restore power and that's why I looked

Is that what you meant?
 
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