plague311
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If I'm understanding it correctly, the no confidence vote isn't like an impeachment. The "ballots" are confidential? The names of those who cast them aren't read aloud along with the vote?
Has Boris gone yet?
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Trebuchet
Penultimate Amazing
Voting is now finished.
Trebuchet
Penultimate Amazing
Don't know about the confidentiality, but it probably is. Except for those who've publicly declared which way they went.
Nothing at all like a USA impeachment. It's strictly internal to the party and carries no legal weight.
Trebuchet
Penultimate Amazing
Not gone, not all that close 211-148.
angrysoba
Philosophile
BJ survived. A lot of his MPs voted against him though. He will limp on.
Lothian
should be banned
He got less support than May who was wounded by the vote and managed to limp on for a couple of months.
I make it he got some 59% of the vote. That's got to be very damaging, surely?
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Two fifths of his MPs have no confidence? That's bad.
angrysoba
Philosophile
Yep. May, Major and Thatcher were all severely damaged by these types of votes. Johnson does have a massive shamelessness about him that could insulate him to some extent but for anyone else this would turn him into a dead man walking.
commandlinegamer
Philosopher
The best that can come from this is that it wipes out the Tory majority from the last election by virtue of them all affected by the taint of Johnson.
Mojo
Mostly harmless
Three quarters of those he hasn’t given a job to. The Grauniad quoting a tweet from Rory Stewart:
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...084d9060b760aa#block-629e5fdb8f084d9060b760aa
It will be interesting (i.e. cringeworthy) to see what spin his supporters put on this. I predict Shapps will make us all want to vomit
Dorries too.
59% of Tory MPs think he's better than nothing.
The opposition parties are going to have fun with him - he can't lead the Tories into the next election, can he? But I doubt he'll step down.
What would be amusing would be a recall petition in Ruislip and Uxbridge.
He'd need a dodgy expenses claim for that I think.
https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/sites/default/files/2021-05/Recall%20Act%20-%20initial%20factsheet%20-%20amended%20April%202021.pdf (PDF)
The opposition parties are going to have fun with him - he can't lead the Tories into the next election, can he? But I doubt he'll step down.
What would be amusing would be a recall petition in Ruislip and Uxbridge.
He'd need a dodgy expenses claim for that I think.
https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/sites/default/files/2021-05/Recall%20Act%20-%20initial%20factsheet%20-%20amended%20April%202021.pdf (PDF)
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Mojo
Mostly harmless
angrysoba
Philosophile
Ewwww…. Puh-leaze
angrysoba
Philosophile
It will be interesting (i.e. cringeworthy) to see what spin his supporters put on this. I predict Shapps will make us all want to vomit
“This is just like Winston Churchill standing alone against… the Nazis….?!?”
From The Guardians excellent John Crace -
"As expected The Convict had won the vote but lost the leadership. Worse even than the Maybot back in 2018. Johnson would say he was going to hang on – he’s a bad loser – but there was no coming back from this. It may be weeks, it may be months but Boris is toast."
"As expected The Convict had won the vote but lost the leadership. Worse even than the Maybot back in 2018. Johnson would say he was going to hang on – he’s a bad loser – but there was no coming back from this. It may be weeks, it may be months but Boris is toast."
angrysoba
Philosophile
To be fair, we would expect John Crace in the Graun to be calling Johnson toast. I think it becomes more interesting that the Torygraph are saying the same thing…
And…
Can you imagine how well it would play in every election until he goes?
"Nearly 1 in 2 Tory MPs think the Tory leader should go, how can you support him?"