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Allopathic Medicine!!!

Caroline13 said:
No, I've Never made a homeopathic remedy. I would not know where to start, I buy them and they are very affordable.

I did get into Collodial Silver back in 1995 and made my own for some time, bought all the stuff I needed to make it and enjoyed doing it. Now I buy it t hat too.
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We are on well water. It has excellent memory. We get our homeopathic remedies for the cost of the electricity to run the pump
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
You might want to look up the definition of Allopathic Medicine.
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I'll rephrase it for you.

Modern medicine! (Allopathic medicine, or allopathy, refers to science-based, modern medicine.)

All the benefits of homeopathic medicine (the only benefit is the placebo effect - if they think it does them good it might actually help them help themselves.)

With the added bonus of active medicinal ingredients (ie actual drugs which can cure things.)
 
Lplus said:
I'll rephrase it for you.

Modern medicine! (Allopathic medicine, or allopathy, refers to science-based, modern medicine.)

All the benefits of homeopathic medicine (the only benefit is the placebo effect - if they think it does them good it might actually help them help themselves.)

With the added bonus of active medicinal ingredients (ie actual drugs which can cure things.)
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No it does not. It refers to a complete misunderstanding of modern medicine by Hahnemann. I explained this in detail way upthread.
 
Norman Alexander said:
No it does not. It refers to a complete misunderstanding of modern medicine by Hahnemann. I explained this in detail way upthread.
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wikipedia;

Among homeopaths and other alternative medicine advocates, "allopathic medicine" now refers to "the broad category of medical practice that is sometimes called Western medicine, biomedicine, evidence-based medicine, or modern medicine.
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Cambridge dictionary;

a name for conventional (= traditional and ordinary) medicine used by some followers of alternative medicine
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Oxford languages;

the treatment of disease by conventional means, i.e. with drugs having effects opposite to the symptoms.
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Stuff Hahneman.
 
Darat said:
Or - and I am not making this up, put one of your pre-prepared tablets into a bottle with your blank pills and leave for a little while. Or even just put a bottle of your remedy next to one of blanks. All accepted ways of preparing a remedy.
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Haha. Yes, I had forgotten about that. :)
 
Norman Alexander said:
No it does not. It refers to a complete misunderstanding of modern medicine by Hahnemann. I explained this in detail way upthread.
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This is not strictly accurate. Hahnemann lived and died before modern medicine existed. In a way, at the time, homeopathy was better than the "allopathic" medicine at the time (which was pretty awful), because at least it didn't have side effects.
 
I'd like to make a mention of the duck liver thing, Oscillococcinum. It's "discoverer" was Joseph Roy, who while looking at the blood of cancer sufferers, thought he saw an oscillating bacterium. He further thought that he had seen the same thing in the blood of people suffering from influenza and herpes - though we now know that these are viral diseases and not bacterial. He later claimed to have discovered the same thing in the liver of a duckling, so obviously this is what he diluted for his remedy - to 200C :eek: which maths out to one part duck offal to 10400 parts water.

Now here's the thing. Not one other person has seen this mysterious oscillating bacterium, anywhere, ever, under any circumstances. It is nigh-certain to be entirely mythical. And yet it is the bases for a cold and flu remedy that is available in over 50 countries.
 
The Greater Fool said:
I've nearly died twice on the operating table in operations that are considered safe outpatient procedures.

I've had a few bad effects from drugs.

I guess this means that I should no longer trust doctors (Big Med?) or drugs (Big Pharma)? But I should trust homeopathic Doctors (Big Woo?) and their 'drugs' (Big Water)?

I'm so confused.
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New Version Of 'Operation' Just Has Players Use Essential Oils Instead Of Performing A Medical Procedure


PAWTUCKET, RI—In a press release Friday, Hasbro announced a new version of classic board game Operation in which players use essential oils to treat serious medical conditions rather than taking the patient, Cavity Sam, into a hospital for expensive, invasive surgery.

Much like the typical version, players draw a card to see which ailment they are supposed to cure on their turn and how much money they'll earn for a success. However, instead of using tweezers to remove potentially deadly growths all throughout Sam's body, players will need to apply the correct oil. If they put the wrong oil into the board, blend the concoction improperly, or miss their target, the board will buzz, indicating the player has failed.

"For instance, if the patient has a collapsed lung, conventional Operation wisdom would be to operate," said a Hasbro rep demoing the game in a video on YouTube. "But this is just propaganda from Big Pharma. All that collapsed lung needs is a little frankincense, and Cavity Sam is good to go." The demonstrator then showed how lavender could cure the patient's sore throat, lemongrass his gout, and cassia a serious cardiac event like a heart attack.

"We're finally pushing back against the big-dollar medical industry," she said before attempting to cure Sam's obesity with a "Slim N' Sassy" blend. "Oops! I accidentally dropped the oil into his heart attack slot. Now he's dead."

The game already has two expansions announced: Essential Oil Starter Pack 1, which contains over 50 new oils for kids to experiment with, and Oil Baron, which tasks players with hiring their friends and family to work for their new work-from-home essential oil empire.​
 
This bottle pretty much sums up homeopathetic "remedies" and both the gullibility and absurd lack of logic of proponents, IMO.

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A "remedy" that ensures "a gentle, calming formula that promotes relaxation and supports a good night's sleep"

Assured to be non-addictive and non-drowsy. . .
:rolleyes:
 
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EHocking said:
New Version Of 'Operation' Just Has Players Use Essential Oils Instead Of Performing A Medical Procedure


PAWTUCKET, RI—In a press release Friday, Hasbro announced a new version of classic board game Operation in which players use essential oils to treat serious medical conditions rather than taking the patient, Cavity Sam, into a hospital for expensive, invasive surgery.

Much like the typical version, players draw a card to see which ailment they are supposed to cure on their turn and how much money they'll earn for a success. However, instead of using tweezers to remove potentially deadly growths all throughout Sam's body, players will need to apply the correct oil. If they put the wrong oil into the board, blend the concoction improperly, or miss their target, the board will buzz, indicating the player has failed.

"For instance, if the patient has a collapsed lung, conventional Operation wisdom would be to operate," said a Hasbro rep demoing the game in a video on YouTube. "But this is just propaganda from Big Pharma. All that collapsed lung needs is a little frankincense, and Cavity Sam is good to go." The demonstrator then showed how lavender could cure the patient's sore throat, lemongrass his gout, and cassia a serious cardiac event like a heart attack.

"We're finally pushing back against the big-dollar medical industry," she said before attempting to cure Sam's obesity with a "Slim N' Sassy" blend. "Oops! I accidentally dropped the oil into his heart attack slot. Now he's dead."

The game already has two expansions announced: Essential Oil Starter Pack 1, which contains over 50 new oils for kids to experiment with, and Oil Baron, which tasks players with hiring their friends and family to work for their new work-from-home essential oil empire.​
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"Many a True Word is Said in Jest". Can we add an acupuncture version with fake needles to insert in the correct points in the patient? This could be contain a simple circuit board designed such that a wrong answer caused smoke to pour from the patient's ears.

There is money to be made per PT Barnum's philosophy. :thumbsup:
 
EHocking said:
This bottle pretty much sums up homeopathetic "remedies" and both the gullibility and absurd lack of logic of proponents, IMO.

[qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=49&pictureid=12761[/qimg]

A "remedy" that ensures "a gentle, calming formula that promotes relaxation and supports a good night's sleep"

Assured to be non-addictive and non-drowsy. . .
:rolleyes:
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Does that claim to be homoeopathic? This looks like a list of potentially active ingredients - https://gohealthy.co.nz/products/sleep-nervous-system/sleep-support/
 
Lplus said:
wikipedia;



Cambridge dictionary;



Oxford languages;



Stuff Hahneman.
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Hahnemann's definition of allopathy has indeed been converted to refer to "modern medicine in general" NOW. His original definition was mistaken, and the new definition is even more mistaken. Modern medicine does not use any of the methodology described in homeopathic lore as "allopathy".

The use by homeopaths of the word "allopathy" is very much akin to the use by rabid right-wingers of the words "socialist" and "communist" to mean "anyone I don't agree with". It is simply an all-purpose epithet to both despise and dismiss, bearing no relation to the actual definition or original use of the word.
 
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