Bill Barr and his October Surprise

Giuliani goes there

"sexually inappropriate...with a unnamed 14 year old girl"

"numerous pictures of underage girls"

Turns over evidence to Delaware State Police.

Don't shoot the messenger!

Lol don’t worry this isn’t Kenosha nobody is going to shoot you. But I thought the computer guy gave the FBI the hard drive a while ago? So this guy has a hard drive full of child porn and hands it over to Rudy who, and I’ll remind you this is a hard drive full of child porn, that he sits on for a week doing the talk show circuit and when the media doesn’t bite he finally decides it’s time to contact the police, while holding a hard drive full of child porn that he got from a computer repair guy who claims it’s a copy from Hunter Biden that he couldn’t actually see without his glasses.

And Hunter Biden is the problem here?
 
FWIW

"@peterschweizer
BREAKING. Hearing that Bevan Cooney who has shared his Biden related emails with us has been REMOvED from the federal facility in Oregon where he is being detained"
 
FWIW
"@peterschweizer
BREAKING. Hearing that Bevan Cooney who has shared his Biden related emails with us has been REMOvED from the federal facility in Oregon where he is being detained"

Not much. Got anybody else besides Breitbart, OAN and Glen Beck?
 
I should put these in categories of laughable, SBAR (stupid beyond all reason), or here it is already addressed and/or 'exactly'.

... It's almost like the actual credibility of the information isn't the primary consideration, and you're just making excuses to dismiss information you don't like and to amplify information you do.
I'm pretty sure this is a common theme.

Very believable laptop:
-NY Post
-Daily mail
-Foxnews
-Bannon, Breitbart
“Hunter Biden’s lawyer has come to us both with phone calls and with emails saying, ‘Hey, I’ve got to get the hard drive back,’” Bannon told Sky News on Sunday.
It's SBAR. Giuliani couldn't find anyone interested except the NY Post.

... When Trump claims, with zero evidence, that Hunter Biden beat a hooker to death with a bottle of champagne, he knows that the "Is it Champagne or is it just sparkling wine?" debate will occur and both sides will claim victory over it even if the whole setup original question is laughably false.

The talking heads know we as a society will nitpick the nuance of a pointless question.
Exactly and so we are having this conversation.

A journalist posted a scan of the receipt and a different signature of Biden on twitter.
here :
https://twitter.com/ScottMStedman/status/1318384991525502977

Comparing them upside down is interesting, my completely amateur analysis is these are very much not from the same person.
It's absurdly not even close. But the point is, keep the story in the news feed.

Rudy Giuliani said Biden was drunk when he came in. The repair guy said he wasn't sure Biden ever came in because he can't see. I'm not sure how those two get reconciled without resorting to "bald faced lie".
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Fox are now reporting that they have confirmed the story though...?
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I'm not disputing that, only saying that I didn't know that before, and that the article should not have been published the way it was, and curious why the Biden law team didn't do more to prevent publication.

My guess now is that they saw how much this would be an own-goal for Trump and the Post.
Exactly, and given the point isn't to present a credible story, the point is to present the SBAR nonsense. Any engagement by Biden is a bonus.

They claim to have "sources" saying that Big Guy is Joe.
They also claim that they spoke to one of the people who was copied on the email, who confirmed its authenticity.

However, they don't claim that the "sources" and the people copied on the email are the same.

"Sources" could be Giuliani or Bannon, for all we know.
Pretty sure we do know, Giuliani is the source and maybe the Russians helped him out.

See Firestone's email. Fox claim to have been in touch with a recipient of one of the emails.
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No where does it say the person wasn't a space alien reptoid either.

This means we need to be prepared to be invaded by the space alien reptoid fleet.
Bingo!

PS - any word on Barr's condition?
I mean Covid, not his transformation into a space alien reptoid.
He has an appearance scheduled Thursday. We'll see.

*Wheels the chalkboard into the room...*

Okay so.... the evil Jewish cabal... in associations with the NWO (both the evil global conspiracy and the 90s Wrestling Stable)... built the Denver Airport... as a place to hide Hillary's E-mail server... to cover up the fact the she killed Vince Foster... to prevent him from talking about her secret underground pizza parlor child sex dungeon... and the pieces that connect the dots where all on Hunter Biden's laptop.
I think you're on to something here.

The FBI had better come out with some details soon, or in your scenario, they will have known about a Russian plan to influence the election a year out and silently let it run its course.
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Like they did last time?
:thumbsup:

Oh really.

Well I have a shoe box in my closet that could implicate you in the Black Dahlia murders.

We're a lot of proven facts down the ladder from "Joe Biden did anything."

But yes I know let's argue about the bottle that Hunter Biden didn't beat a hooker to death was champagne or sparkling whine (pun intended.)
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I love how Hunter is depicted both as an utterly unreliable crackhead pedophile *and* a highly credible reporter of his dad’s alleged corruption.
Almost always the case with CTs.

They very clearly brief people about ongoing investigations. They briefed Trump and Obama about the Steele dossier while that was an ongoing investigation. We've been hearing about them briefing Obama about Flynn before that became an active investigation.

The way we are talking about this, it's like one of those nature documentaries where some innocent baby gazelle is about to be killed by a pack of hyenas and the film crew do nothing because they have vowed not to interfere in the natural order. I don't believe the FBI takes that same approach with foreign election interference.
:rolleyes: I'm pretty sure such meetings are confidential and unlike Trump, Biden respects that confidentiality.

In that case, a new federal agency needs to be set up to protect and defend the United States against terrorist and foreign intelligence threats.
They weren't too bad before Trump stepped in to make the top leaders his ass-kissing minions. Wray seems to be holding his own for now.

Sure, but they then apparently decided not to tell him about this actual attempt. If I know specifically that your neighbour is a homicidal maniac, has found the spare key to your house and has been muttering about killing you.... giving you a generalized warning that there are a lot of dangerous people about and your wife shouldn't leave the key under the mat is wilfully non-specific.
If someone's life was at risk, the FBI would move in. Your analogy is SBAR.

The information about the laptop had not been spread far and wide. At the moment it seems like the FBI knew about it for 10 months and allowed it to develop into a trap for either Biden or Trump.
:sdl: You're still operating on an SBAR premise.

The evidence exists. It's just that the current president not only ignores it, he does his best to discredit it if it implicates any of his dictator buddies.
And this is the problem with bothering to discredit the story.

It's hard to credit that something this laughable is the actual October Surprise. Misdirection, surely?
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You'd think he could have done better if he wanted to make something up.
Trump sent the idiot Giuliani because Trump cannot been seen as directly involved. But maybe Trump asked the Russians to make this laptop nonsense up and they did a half-assed job too.
 
"Major Garrett
@MajorCBS
Via
@ClareHymes22

@CBSNews


The FBI & DOJ concur with DNI Ratcliffe’s assessment that Hunter Biden's laptop and the emails in question were not part of a Russian disinformation campaign. FBI does has possession of the Hunter Biden laptop in question.

@DNI_Ratcliffe

@FBI"

Do they have all 3 laptops?
 
The Conspiracy Theory forum is thataway —————->


What's the conspiracy? That he was moved from his cell or that he gave Breitbart reporters access to his emails?

Tyrmand, who is in contact with members of Cooney’s family, told Breitbart News that Cooney was moved from his cell in a federal prison in Oregon around 11:00 a.m. local time on Tuesday. Tyrmand said that Cooney spoke with family members multiple times on Tuesday, which he said is “much more than usual.”

“Bevan could sense that things had changed with the rise in visibility of his story,” Tyrmand said.

Cooney’s family stressed to Tyrmand they are “extremely concerned given the nervousness gleaned from Bevan’s reaction this morning and they would appreciate a sign from the powers that be that Bevan is in protective custody.” It is unclear where Cooney has been moved to, and in whose custody he currently is.

Link
 
Do they have all 3 laptops?


There is only one laptop. John Paul, the owner of the repair store, sent two of them home with Biden because one of them could not be repaired and the other was a quick fix that didn't need to be left at the shop
 
Lol don’t worry this isn’t Kenosha nobody is going to shoot you. But I thought the computer guy gave the FBI the hard drive a while ago? So this guy has a hard drive full of child porn and hands it over to Rudy who, and I’ll remind you this is a hard drive full of child porn, that he sits on for a week doing the talk show circuit and when the media doesn’t bite he finally decides it’s time to contact the police, while holding a hard drive full of child porn that he got from a computer repair guy who claims it’s a copy from Hunter Biden that he couldn’t actually see without his glasses.

And Hunter Biden is the problem here?
So, if there turns out to be child porn of Hunter Biden with a 14 year old girl on the laptop, and the FBI have done nothing about it... in your opinion the bad guy in the story is Giuliani for having revealed that in a way that maximizes how bad it makes Biden and all the people covering it up look?
 
So, if there turns out to be child porn of Hunter Biden with a 14 year old girl on the laptop, and the FBI have done nothing about it... in your opinion the bad guy in the story is Giuliani for having revealed that in a way that maximizes how bad it makes Biden and all the people covering it up look?

Which Biden are you referring to here? There is no evidence that Joe Biden is covering any pornography up, much less anything else. If turns out that HUNTER Biden engaged in sex with a 14 year old, he should have the book thrown at him. But it would have nothing to do with Joe Biden.
 
This "scandal" is amazing, even by today's standards.

It started with "Biden has met some guy from Burisma".

When it became clear that this meeting never happened, it became "Biden, the Big Guy, may have been involved in a business scheme in China".

Now that it appears that some guy vaguely related to the Trump campaign (wait, his name is, I have it on the tip of my lips, ah yes, Donald J. Trump) has actual business interests in China, it went into PizzaGate territory: "there is child porn on the computer".

Evidence? None whatsoever.

All they want is trigger a"Comey letter" moment, find someone at the DOJ release a statement that the "thing" is under investigation.
 
Which Biden are you referring to here? There is no evidence that Joe Biden is covering any pornography up, much less anything else. If turns out that HUNTER Biden engaged in sex with a 14 year old, he should have the book thrown at him. But it would have nothing to do with Joe Biden.

It seems that the narrative is that the parent is responsible for the (alleged) sins of their children no matter how old the child is.

If Hunter Biden had a substance abuse problem then it must be a fault with his genes (unlike President Trump who has the best genes) and/or his upbringing (unlike the Trump children who have had the perfect childhood).

The fact that Hunter Biden has unfounded allegations of possession of possessing child pornography and being a hebephile or ephebophile indicates that there must be something terribly wrong with him - there's no smoke without fire - which again must be a problem with his genes or upbringing. :rolleyes:

Please note however, this only applies to the children of prominent Democrats.
 
Whether Trump acts appropriately on it doesn't mean that the FBI should sit on it. If they inform him and he does nothing, that's on him. If they don't inform him, or Biden, then that's on them.

You've switched from saying that you don't believe it doesn't happen to saying that you don't believe it should happen. Those are two very different statements.
 
You've switched from saying that you don't believe it doesn't happen to saying that you don't believe it should happen. Those are two very different statements.
One is a statement about what I think should happen, hence I used the word "should". The other is a statement about what I believed happen, hence the word "believe".
 
It's going to be entertaining watching those who have been lecturing us about not trusting US government agencies, and what they say about the Russians, spin this one into orbit.

Meh, the take I heard is that the tale is so obviously false that it's too sloppy to be Russian disinformation, and is instead likely someone trying to imitate it. I can believe that. We'll see.

Mind you, the source is Fox News, and Garrett is just repeating it. As I said, we'll see.

[edit]Here's the story. Note the source of their information:

The FBI is in possession of the laptop purportedly belonging to Hunter Biden which contained emails revealing his foreign business dealings, including contacts in Ukraine and China, two senior administration officials told Fox News Tuesday.
 
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Which Biden are you referring to here? There is no evidence that Joe Biden is covering any pornography up, much less anything else. If turns out that HUNTER Biden engaged in sex with a 14 year old, he should have the book thrown at him. But it would have nothing to do with Joe Biden.
He doesn't seem to have had the book thrown at him though, does he? 10 months later and nothing. The story will be that this was covered up to protect Biden. Of course it will be a problem for Biden if this comes out.
 

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