Bill Barr and his October Surprise

Giordano said:
I agree that it is very unlikely the computer tech initiated the scam. I think someone else, probably Russians seeking to disrupt the election, used the computer tech to implant the bogus hard drive by offering it to Rudi.
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Rudy has been palling around in eastern Europe with Russian intelligence agents for a few years now. They probably just gave the laptop to Rudy and Rudy paid the computer guy to say he had it the whole time. Much easier that way imo
 
I'll just throw this out there.

In the late 1990's our department made an arrest of an individual for sending pornograpic materials to a minor.

The minor was their employers child.

They used their work computer to download the materials and send same to the minor.

I have no idea about the particulars of Hunter Biden past what is being argued about, but computers and criminal stupidity sometimes run hand-in-hand.
 
xjx388 said:
OK, but even if it's true that the laptop became legally his after X time, it's still a gross violation of privacy. The standard procedure of any legitimate shop would be to completely erase such laptops before reselling them. If it's possible that this shop makes a practice of looking through a user's files before erasing them . . . well, it's a good thing people know this now.

Basically, this guy just showed everyone that your worst fears (having your privacy violated by an unscrupulous and independent shop owner) are very very possible. An Authorized Apple shop or Apple itself isn't going to do this because the risks are too high. Apple has been very clear that they aren't in the business of turning over their user's info to law enforcement.
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If he is willing to snoop through emails, chances are he would have no problem looking at pictures, videos, saved passwords, and any other documents. He also doesn't charge very much for his service. $85 to backup 3 laptops is less than I would charge if I was running a business.
 
surrogate said:
If he is willing to snoop through emails, chances are he would have no problem looking at pictures, videos, saved passwords, and any other documents. He also doesn't charge very much for his service. $85 to backup 3 laptops is less than I would charge if I was running a business.
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Often you have an initial charge to take a look, and then another larger charge to restore the data. This seems more in line with the initial charge to take a look. It doesn't seem to be a complete bill as it is only for labour, so the external drive would presumably be extra.
 
Giordano said:
I agree that it is very unlikely the computer tech initiated the scam. I think someone else, probably Russians seeking to disrupt the election, used the computer tech to implant the bogus hard drive by offering it to Rudi.
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I've little doubt this is a classic Russia misinformation plant using Giuliani as its useful idiot. He's proven himself to be more than a willing stooge before. And there is no lack of other Trump sycophants happy to help.
 
Stacyhs said:
I've little doubt this is a classic Russia misinformation plant using Giuliani as its useful idiot. He's proven himself to be more than a willing stooge before. And there is no lack of other Trump sycophants happy to help.
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Make up your mind, is he a useful idiot or a willing stooge? You're running in circles.
 
you know what, never mind. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
 
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TahiniBinShawarma said:
And because no where in the reported story does Andrii Derkach make an appearance.
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Prove Andrii Derkach wasn't involved. Should be easy.

TahiniBinShawarma said:
Unless you have some inside information, the hardware was left at a repair shop by Hunter Biden. The FBI was contacted through an intermediary, then given to the FBI under a Grand Jury subpoena. A copy was given through the mediator of the repair shop guy to Robert Costello who is Giuliani's attorney.
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The truth doesn't depend on whether I have inside information. But I think the likeliest explanation for what we know so far is that the FBI is probing a possible Russian disinformation campaign, such as the ones that federal investigators, U.S. intelligence agencies and bipartisan congressional committees have been warning us about for literally years, and which DJT has spent his entire presidency furiously denying.
 
Minoosh said:
The truth doesn't depend on whether I have inside information. But I think the likeliest explanation for what we know so far is that the FBI is probing a possible Russian disinformation campaign, such as the ones that federal investigators, U.S. intelligence agencies and bipartisan congressional committees have been warning us about for literally years, and which DJT has spent his entire presidency furiously denying.
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The FBI had better come out with some details soon, or in your scenario, they will have known about a Russian plan to influence the election a year out and silently let it run its course.
 
Minoosh said:
Prove Andrii Derkach wasn't involved. Should be easy.

The truth doesn't depend on whether I have inside information. But I think the likeliest explanation for what we know so far is that the FBI is probing a possible Russian disinformation campaign, such as the ones that federal investigators, U.S. intelligence agencies and bipartisan congressional committees have been warning us about for literally years, and which DJT has spent his entire presidency furiously denying.
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Asked and answered, even the daily beast article says former associate, which was highlighted for you. I cant find Andrii's name on anything related to these emails. You asking to prove a negative is rich. Although that's all you have because evidence he is involved is non existant otherwise youd post it.
 
*Raises hand* Question.

Who... the... ****... cares?

Hunter Biden isn't running for President. Even if the laptop contains a map showing where Jimmy Hoffa is buried what does this have to do with Donald Trump being unfit to coach a Little League team, Joe Biden, or the cost of tea in China?

Hunter Biden can go to jail and I'll still for Joe Biden over Donald Trump.
 
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shuttlt said:
The FBI had better come out with some details soon, or in your scenario, they will have known about a Russian plan to influence the election a year out and silently let it run its course.
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Except that we've been told over and over again that Russia definitely tampered with the 2016 election and that they've been working on this one for a long time, too.

Just because something isn't in Trump tweets, making headlines in The New York Post and The Washington Times, and/or the top story on Fox News and OANN doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

We need the FBI to inform us about Russian election interference about as much as we need them to inform us that water is wet.
 
JoeMorgue said:
*Raises hand* Question.

Who... the... ****... cares?

Hunter Biden isn't running for President. Even if the laptop contains a map showing where Jimmy Hoffa is buried what does this have to do with Donald Trump being unfit to coach a Little League team, Joe Biden, or the cost of tea in China?

Hunter Biden can go to jail and I'll still for Joe Biden over Donald Trump.
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But is Hunter the son of Sparkling Wine or the son of Champagne? Look over there!!!
 
JoeMorgue said:
*Raises hand* Question.

Who... the... ****... cares?

Hunter Biden isn't running for President. Even if the laptop contains a map showing where Jimmy Hoffa is buried what does this have to do with Donald Trump being unfit to coach a Little League team, Joe Biden, or the cost of tea in China?

Hunter Biden can go to jail and I'll still for Joe Biden over Donald Trump.
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As has been explained 3 or 4 times now, the emails could possibly implicate Joe Biden receiving money through his son.
 
Babbylonian said:
Except that we've been told over and over again that Russia definitely tampered with the 2016 election and that they've been working on this one for a long time, too.

Just because something isn't in Trump tweets, making headlines in The New York Post and The Washington Times, and/or the top story on Fox News and OANN doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

We need the FBI to inform us about Russian election interference about as much as we need them to inform us that water is wet.
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Do you just believe things because you're told? Or would you like to see evidence?
 
TahiniBinShawarma said:
As has been explained 3 or 4 times now, the emails could possibly implicate Joe Biden receiving money through his son.
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Oh really.

Well I have a shoe box in my closet that could implicate you in the Black Dahlia murders.

We're a lot of proven facts down the ladder from "Joe Biden did anything."

But yes I know let's argue about the bottle that Hunter Biden didn't beat a hooker to death was champagne or sparkling whine (pun intended.)
 
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