Cont: Brexit: Now What? Part 6. Pick up sticks...

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Archie Gemmill Goal said:
Watching the debate live now... my God Michael Gove is a fanny!
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I assume you mean in the British sense rather than the American sense. It’s just occurred to me that, of all the prominent leavers, the only one I didn’t think of as a complete **** before the Brexit fiasco started was BoJo and I’ve since revised my opinion of him.
 
BobTheCoward said:
I never said there was an abuser. I don't think there is one. However, clearing a deadlock may involve convincing politicians that think the UK is abused by the EU to your side. That isn't going to be done by trying to convince them they are not abused.
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I don't think that's going to work within the time that is left.... and to be honest, I'm quite certain that those politicians who think that the UK is being abused by the EU are:
a)deluded and really should be committed to a mental health institution... they're clearly disconnected from reality.
b)not deluded but use this emotive issue to gain power.... even though they know better.

Neither are going to be convinced.... so they aren't useful in breaking the deadlock.
 
Amazer said:
I don't think that's going to work within the time that is left.... and to be honest, I'm quite certain that those politicians who think that the UK is being abused by the EU are:
a)deluded and really should be committed to a mental health institution... they're clearly disconnected from reality.
b)not deluded but use this emotive issue to gain power.... even though they know better.

Neither are going to be convinced.... so they aren't useful in breaking the deadlock.
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Do you think it can be broken without them?
 
Just watch Rees-Mogg talking to Andrew Neil (and god it was difficult to keep my dinner now) and JRM made 2 telling statements for me:

1. When questioned about what Vote Leave said in the campaign his response was 'lots of people said lots of things' which shows that the idea that 'X is what the people voted for' is absolute nonsense

2. When questioned about whether he would ever vote against the government in a no confidence motion he admitted he wouldn't. Basically admitting that his job and his party matter to him more than any principle.
 
catsmate said:
Evolution, geology and science in general.
Edwin Poots, MLA for Lagan Valley

Mervyn Storey, former education minister.

Mervyn Storey, former education minister when asked if he believed in Darwinism.


Blood donations.
Edwin Poots, MLA for Lagan Valley


Women doing things outside the home.
Edwin Poots, MLA for Lagan Valley on his own leader, Arlene Foster.


Homosexcuality.

Ian Paisley Jr, MP for North Antrim and son of the party's founder.

Iris Robinson

Jim Wells, former deputy speaker of the Northern Irish Assembly,

Muslims.
Peter Robinson, former first minister for Northern Ireland.


Climate change.
Sammy Wilson, former MP for East Antrim, and former Northern Irish Assembly environment minister


Rihanna.
Alan Graham, a DUP alderman for North Down Borough Council
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Can we just agree that they are horrible, horrible people and leave it at that?
 
Information Analyst said:
Well, that's one way to get round the auto-censor....
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Not really.

'Fanny' is an RN term for a 'slop bucket' used for rubbish and food waste on a mess deck.

It gets it's name from the 'a victorian murder case. A girl called Fanny Adams was murdered in 1867. Her body was dismembered and not all of it was recovered.

Fanny Adams became the navy slang name for tinned meat or stew. This was delivered in large tins which after emptying were used as slop containers, galley waste bins etc.

So by extension today waste buckets and bins are called a Fanny.

Also being a 'Fanny' or 'Fannying around' means to be useless.

Because of the initials FA the term also became a synonym for '**** All' as in:

Q "What use is he?"
A "FA"

All from the same root meaning.
 
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And now the brinkmanship games has started, with Corbyn refusing to meet May to discuss the next moves, unless she takes no deal off the table. Which, given that the deal she had was resoundly crushed last night, is sort of impossible.
 
Michael Gove has no argument left so he just used his speech to smear Corbyn.
Typical tory bastard.
 
This is why May and the Brexiteers were so determined to avoid any Parliamentary scrutiny in the first place. Their entire strategy was to avoid offering Parliament anything but a rubber stamp vote where rejecting the deal would automatically lead to a no deal Hard Brexit. as soon as that plan went up in smoke this was inevitable. There is no deal the EU will agree to that is going to get the approval of a majority in the Commons, time to hit that 'revoke' button and call off Article 50.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Michael Gove has no argument left so he just used his speech to smear Corbyn.
Typical tory bastard.
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I remember the good old days when John major only had 20 or so 'bastards' to worry about on the backbenches, now its reached the point where Ken Clarke is the voice of reason. :eek:
 
Guido Fawkes is reporting that the Conservatives have rushed into candidate selection for all of their least winnable seats, suggesting that they are on an election footing. Didn't May promise to quit before the next election? So what's this all about?
 
KDLarsen said:
I wonder who the 4 missing Tories are, since the DUP voted with her and she recieved support from at least two independent MP's?
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Eleanor Laing, and two tellers, I think. I think they only got the support of one independant.
 
jeremyp said:
I assume you mean in the British sense rather than the American sense. It’s just occurred to me that, of all the prominent leavers, the only one I didn’t think of as a complete **** before the Brexit fiasco started was BoJo and I’ve since revised my opinion of him.
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And here comes the affectedly shambling figure of*Boris Johnson*– not so much a statesman as an Oxfam donation bag torn open by a fox – who could conceivably still end up prime minister of no-deal Britain. May needed to go again to the EU “with a high heart, fortified by the massive rejection of the House of Commons”, judged Johnson, speaking as always like a Taiwanese news animation of Winston Churchill. In the meantime, “we should be actively preparing for no deal with ever more enthusiasm”.
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From the guardian. Enthusiasm. That'll fix it.
 
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