Cont: Brexit: Now What? Part 6. Pick up sticks...

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Wudang said:
That "if" is so big it has thousands of smaller "if"s trapped in orbit around it.
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I don't disagree... it might as well be in another universe. But I did want to rule out Britain being made and example of.
 
Tweet from Donald Tusk sent 11.40 yesterday;

"If a deal is impossible, and no one wants no deal, then who will finally have the courage to say what the only positive solution is?"

They want us to stay.
 
Tweet from Nicola Sturgeon sent 2.31 yesterday;

"Spoke to PM earlier - not obvious that she has any real idea what to do next. Also not at all clear she is open to any fundamental change of thinking in her proposed cross party talks. The bare minimum she must do now is seek extension of Article 50 to stop the clock."
 
Nessie said:
Tweet from Donald Tusk sent 11.40 yesterday;

"If a deal is impossible, and no one wants no deal, then who will finally have the courage to say what the only positive solution is?"

They want us to stay.
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Bad argument. That is like saying you should stay with a domestic abuser because of financial stability.
 
Nessie said:
Tweet from Donald Tusk sent 11.40 yesterday;

"If a deal is impossible, and no one wants no deal, then who will finally have the courage to say what the only positive solution is?"

They want us to stay.
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Of course we want you to stay... it's better for everyone involved.

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Nessie said:
Tweet from Nicola Sturgeon sent 2.31 yesterday;

"Spoke to PM earlier - not obvious that she has any real idea what to do next. Also not at all clear she is open to any fundamental change of thinking in her proposed cross party talks. The bare minimum she must do now is seek extension of Article 50 to stop the clock."
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Does he know an extension isn't stopping the clock, it is hitting the snooze button?
 
Nessie said:
It was just an analogy to help explain why many do think they would be better off not in the EU club and would prefer a membership like Norway, or even no membership of the EU at all.

I disagree with those people, I do not think there is a better option than being a member of the EU under our existing terms (in particular not in the Euro, and a big rebate).

I am worried that if we try and cancel and say we want to stay, there may be moves to make us join the Euro and lose the rebate.
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Actually, it has been made clear that if the UK just cancels the whole thing, matters stay as they were.

Of course, should the UK leave and after a few years of a crashed economy want to return, all the exemptions they negotiated earlier won't be automatically renewed.
 
Lukraak_Sisser said:
Actually, it has been made clear that if the UK just cancels the whole thing, matters stay as they were.
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It cannot stay precisely as it was, some EU institutions have already left the UK, the European Medicines Agency and the European Banking Authority.

Is the rebate guaranteed?

Of course, should the UK leave and after a few years of a crashed economy want to return, all the exemptions they negotiated earlier won't be automatically renewed.
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Agreed.
 
Nessie said:
It cannot stay precisely as it was, some EU institutions have already left the UK, the European Medicines Agency and the European Banking Authority.
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But the relationship with the Eu would be the same, they just relocated a few departments as it is really weird to have them in a foreign country.
 
Ian Osborne said:
Quite. Nigel Fromage said he wouldn't accept a narrow Remain vote as the end of the matter, so why should we? Factor in the lies told by Brexit, the illegal overspending and the shifting demographic since 2016, and the case for another referendum is unanswerable.
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Don't forget Russian interference.
 
KDLarsen said:
Well, two things are fairly clear:
Tomorrow there will be a motion of no confidence, which I suspect the Government will win.

And on friday at the latest, May will have to present her plan B for what is going to happen next.
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At this point, plan B should be to rescind article 50 and just act as if it never happened.
 
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