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Cont: The Trump Presidency IX: Nein, Nein!

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Belz... said:
Oh my GOD. That is so delicious. He's laughed out of the room by actual leaders and diplomats. Utterly embarrassed by the one audience he can't woo. Oh, the laughter seemed to hurt him so much. That is so satisfying to watch.
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...There's only one? Wow, I've been so mistaken all these years!

dmaker said:
When you spend your life surrounded by psychophants, and everyone in the room is laughing, you probably don't understand.
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That's... a far too appropriate typo. Freudian slip?
 
To be fair: Trump's performance at the UN was, in my opinion, the best, most coherent and least insane speech he has ever given. There were actually a few things that were quite ok. Some were pretty bad.
But compared to his debates, his interviews, his rallies or his press soundbites, this was an actual speech.
It's amazing how much less bad Trump can sound if he sticks to a script.
 
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Craig4 said:
It's not a particularly American form of humor I'll admit.
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Don't ever, ever let any non American ever say America doesn't understand or do irony, you voted Trump as your president to make America great again. Nothing in the history of humanity will ever top that for irony.
 
kellyb said:
I think he spent so much time in the professional wrestling world, and ran as a heel to Hillary's modern, internationalist liberalism, he was halfway expecting to get booed, and prepared to switch into tough guy "Of course you don't like me" mode.

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The whole world is a big old reality TV show to him. He never stops acting.
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He never stops acting... badly.... He always makes me laugh when he is trying for his serious and important face, wonder how many retakes they used to have to do on the apprentice to get anything that looked even OK?
 
SezMe said:
Yes. The year I worked on the census, I was part of an unusual search for people that began about miidnght and lasted through dawn. It include known homeless emcmpments, the homeless shelters, etc. One of the fun parts was a local small park known locally as "Needle Park". Figuring out why it has that nickname is left as an exercise for the reader.
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Pine trees.
 
Lambchops said:
Of course. Haven't you heard that Trump was chosen by Republican Baby Jesus to save the world?
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You probably think you're joking, but on 4chan and r/the_donald Trump's nickname is "GEOTUS", which stands for "God Emperor Of The United States". There are Russian propaganda sites with urls like geotus.army.

The more extreme of his fanbase really do believe he was appointed by God.
 
Trump can feel that he doesn't belong to the Big Boys and Girls club: remember the NATO summit where they essentially let him sit at the kiddie table while they talked real shop?
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
You probably think you're joking, but on 4chan and r/the_donald Trump's nickname is "GEOTUS", which stands for "God Emperor Of The United States". There are Russian propaganda sites with urls like geotus.army.

The more extreme of his fanbase really do believe he was appointed by God.
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Sounds more like a joke to me, refering to 40K and Dune.
 
Belz... said:
What? I don't know much about census...censuses... er... so I was under the impression that it was for citizens. Hopefully you don't think I'm not allowed to be wrong or ignorant about something. And I'd rather ask than look it up because it makes for conversation.
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Well, it's OK then, although it kinda displaces the effort to other people. I would rather think such kind of topic had to be covered by high school education everywhere, but if that's not the case in your country, it's all right.
 
Belz... said:
Sounds more like a joke to me, refering to 40K and Dune.
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Craig Cobb, the white supremacist in North Dakota who wanted to name a church after Trump, was using the term back in early 2017.

A white supremacist in North Dakota vows to rebuild a church that was burned down — and plans to name it after President Trump.

"The President Donald J. Trump Creativity Church of Rome," Cobb tells the News. "That's the name, because it's beautiful. President Trump is like a god emperor, can do no wrong."
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Worth the long quote: Yes, world leaders laughed at Trump. But there was another, less obvious sign of diminishing U.S. influence.
BERLIN — For a president who has emphasized that the United States should not be laughed at, Donald Trump’s U.N. General Assembly speech Tuesday must have been a serious blow. First, world leaders laughed at him when he boasted of what he described as his unprecedented accomplishments. Then, top German diplomats smirked at his suggestion that they were “totally dependent” on Russia — well aware that investigators are probing just how dependent his own companions are on the Kremlin.

The laughter and smirks made for viral videos, but there was another, less noticed sign of diminishing U.S. influence that boiled up on the sidelines of the General Assembly session. As Trump emphasized U.S. “sovereignty,” the European Union, Russia and China announced plans to circumvent U.S. sanctions reimposed on Iran by Trump in May.

The May move to withdraw from the Obama-era Iran nuclear deal was supposed to force Europe to follow suit and to pressure Iran into renegotiating the deal.

Neither has happened, so far.

Instead, U.S. pressure appears to be resulting in the emergence of an alternative payment system that could shield some non-U.S. companies from American sanctions and allow Iran to export oil and other goods to corporations in the European Union and elsewhere. The latest announcement came after the E.U. passed an updated “blocking statute” last month with the same goal. That earlier effort required European companies to seek compensation from the U.S. Treasury Department, however, with an uncertain outcome.

“This will mean that E.U. member states will set up a legal entity to facilitate legitimate financial transactions with Iran, and this will allow European companies to continue to trade with Iran in accordance with European Union law and could be open to other partners in the world,” the E.U.’s high representative for foreign affairs, Federica Mogherini, said Tuesday.
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About as close to watching a crack form in a dam as one gets. Things may still look good for some time, but fundamental change is occurring. Upside in losing reserve currency status is devaluation and an export boom. Downside is inflation, and eventually needing to borrow on international markets in other currencies, which, unlike dollars, can bite the US hard with debt revaluations.

Long-term, keeping up militarily without dependence on foreign-denominated capital could require stripping everything else out of the budget. Circa 2040: Homeless, with nukes.

Given the untested nature of the E.U.'s current efforts, there are reasons to remain skeptical about whether those plans will be able to reassure international companies to stay in Iran. To some, the risk of being hit by U.S. sanctions may still outweigh the benefits of exploring a new market that was restricted until only recently.
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By winning such battles, Trump's losing the war.
 
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