Atheists destroy churches, attack the faithful

halleyscomet said:
It’s not actually relevant. Whenever he encounters a question people won’t stop asking and he can’t answer he lies and claims it was already addressed. Witness, for example, his claim that he already answered my questions earlier in the thread. I asked him what he thought it was about atheism that lead to the atrocities he attributed to it. I also asked why atheists in a specific country weren’t engaging in the same kind of oppression.

He’s a liar whose main goal is attacking atheism. When you try to nail down any philosophical specifics he scuttles like a cockroach in bright light.
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I kow, but I need to practice my English. And Big Brother Dog's tactiques are ilustrative.
 
David Mo said:
I beg your pardon. I insist. Where have you speak of the agreement Vatican-China? Common brother!
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Do you see the irony of people posting false claims that I have not responded to insipid arguments, while you are unable and unwilling to find a simple post written within the last 27 hours.

I insist that you read the thread and find the post.
 
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The Big Dog said:
Do you see the irony of people posting false claims that I have not responded to insipid arguments, while you are unable and unwilling to find a simple post written within the last 27 hours.

I insist that you read the thread and find the post.
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The post you refer to doesn’t remotely answer the question.
 
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The Big Dog said:
Obviously no, Lol.

We agree that Marx was a militant atheist which is why virtually all of the greatest monsters of the 20th century were militant Marxist atheists.
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Hitler? Saddam Hussein? Idi Amin? General Pinochet? Mugabe? Dick Cheney? (:D ) Mussolini? Franco? Enver Pasha (architect of the Armenian genocide)? General Tojo? (WW2 Japanese commander).

You really should read more, old boy. Your knowledge of world events is sadly lacking.
 
The Big Dog said:
Do you see the irony of people posting false claims that I have not responded to insipid arguments, while you are unable and unwilling to find a simple post written within the last 27 hours.

I insist that you read the thread and find the post.
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I'm amazed you are unable to indicate what comment are you speking of. Frankly, I don't see it.
Maybe you are avoiding an awkward problem.
 
Dabop said:
Yes that European conservative and far right....

Obama in Euro politics was considered center to mild right...

Remember that difference
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I suspect on a Christian forum he would attack Christianity. Most specialized forums that provide a venue for targeted trolling eventually ban the person when they get too overt or repetitive. I don’t consider his posts proper trolling however. They’re more performance art.

I’ve seen him take on woo-woo proponents on this forum. He uses pretty much the same tactics. It’s important to remember that he’s not to be taken seriously. His threads can be quite entertaining when he’s on the ball. Sadly he’s currently in a rather circular rut. His cookie cutter lie that he already answered certain questions is far less entertaining than one of his bat guano silly answers. I’d rather he ignore the challenges he can’t answer than give such a lazy, lackluster response.
 
Cosmic Yak said:
Hitler? Saddam Hussein? Idi Amin? General Pinochet? Mugabe? Dick Cheney? (:D ) Mussolini? Franco? Enver Pasha (architect of the Armenian genocide)? General Tojo? (WW2 Japanese commander).

You really should read more, old boy. Your knowledge of world events is sadly lacking.
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while we can quibble about Hitler status as an atheist, even he can't hold a candle to Atheist Monsters like Lenin, Stalin, and Mao.
 
I see TBD remains utterly incapable of establishing any relation between supposed atheist beliefs and his extreme claims, forcing the repetition of examples that do relate to belief sets, only not the one criticized.

Aka, sloppy slander.

The implication he provides, never stated so as not to have to defend himself from the ridiculous, is that it is the atheism that undermines ethical behavior and leads to the outcomes he decries, and not the doctrines taken by those cited as undeniable truths. The second motive, and far more telling, is that such recognition of the dangers of absolutism and fixed truths immediately opens Christianity's epic can of historical and contemporary worms. That is an "oops too far," even in this sad case.

Oh, well. I suppose some cartoons are on TV so I can refresh myself by trading up.
 
Yeeh, still going on?

The Big Dog said:
Obviously no, Lol.

We agree that Marx was a militant atheist which is why virtually all of the greatest monsters of the 20th century were militant Marxist atheists.
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No, we don't. Karl Marx was a political theorist who held that communism was the best system for humanity. He also recognized that a revolution was needed to build a communist society. That doesn't make him militant by any useful definition of the term.

Considering his view on religion, we can safely assume that he was an atheist.

Karl Marx did not himself take any part in any revolution, he only published his ideas.

His position is certainly not causative for the atheism of others, but his ideas may well have appealed to people who were already atheists.

Hans
 
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Hlafordlaes said:
I see TBD remains utterly incapable of establishing any relation between supposed atheist beliefs and his extreme claims, forcing the repetition of examples that do relate to belief sets, only not the one criticized.
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fascinating comment, no? It is odd how our anti-religion correspondents can see examples that DO relate to belief sets, but not to the explicit examples that relate to firm marxist atheism, despite the fact the CCP has specifically stated that.

Lets give our correspondents an hypothetical the illuminate the subject.

Had Chairman Xi required his party members to be Firm Car Drivers and cracked down on all bicycle riders, even those specifically authorized to own bicycles, one would not quibble with the fact that the crack down related to cars, particularly where there was precedent within living memory of pogroms against religious bike riders.

Here we see atheists cracking down on religious, and people claim to be baffled when someone shows that it is related to Firm Marxist Atheism.
 
The Big Dog said:
fascinating comment, no? It is odd how our anti-religion correspondents can see examples that DO relate to belief sets, but not to the explicit examples that relate to firm marxist atheism, despite the fact the CCP has specifically stated that.

Lets give our correspondents an hypothetical the illuminate the subject.

Had Chairman Xi required his party members to be Firm Car Drivers and cracked down on all bicycle riders, even those specifically authorized to own bicycles, one would not quibble with the fact that the crack down related to cars, particularly where there was precedent within living memory of pogroms against religious bike riders.

Here we see atheists cracking down on religious, and people claim to be baffled when someone shows that it is related to Firm Marxist Atheism.
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Yikes! christianity sounds awful the way you put it. I gotta say your turn around in all this has been a welcome surprise.

but you neever did explain why all christians support child strangulation.
 
The Big Dog said:
fascinating comment, no? It is odd how our anti-religion correspondents can see examples that DO relate to belief sets, but not to the explicit examples that relate to firm marxist atheism, despite the fact the CCP has specifically stated that.
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Well, this just might be because most of us here know that "firm marxist atheism" is not a belief set. (Actually, I'm pretty sure you also know that)

Marxism is, of course, a political theory, and atheism is a lack of belief systems.

Lets give our correspondents an hypothetical the illuminate the subject.

Had Chairman Xi required his party members to be Firm Car Drivers and cracked down on all bicycle riders, even those specifically authorized to own bicycles, one would not quibble with the fact that the crack down related to cars, particularly where there was precedent within living memory of pogroms against religious bike riders.
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We would, however, quibble if someone claimed it was related to veganism, which is exactly as equal to cars as atheism is to religion.

Here we see atheists cracking down on religious, and people claim to be baffled when someone shows that it is related to Firm Marxist Atheism.
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No. We see a totalitarian state crack down on people with different opinions, which includes, but is certainly not limited to, religious movements. Note the word "movements". Even in China, you can believe in whatever you want, as long as you're not too organized about it.

Hans
 
MRC_Hans said:
We would, however, quibble if someone claimed it was related to veganism, which is exactly as equal to cars as atheism is to religion.
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Lets take a look:

veganism is to cars as atheism is to religion.

Y'all see that folks? I mean really give into how outstandingly absurd it is? "theism" is literally in the word.

Lets try again, shall we folks:

Vegans oppose restrictions on eating meat. Only a hard core atheist would look at that and say, yup, that has nothing to do with veganism, yet here we are.

let me fix that for you:

veganism is to eating meat as atheism is to religion.
 
Hlafordlaes said:
I see TBD remains utterly incapable of establishing any relation between supposed atheist beliefs and his extreme claims, forcing the repetition of examples that do relate to belief sets, only not the one criticized.

Aka, sloppy slander.

The implication he provides, never stated so as not to have to defend himself from the ridiculous, is that it is the atheism that undermines ethical behavior and leads to the outcomes he decries, and not the doctrines taken by those cited as undeniable truths. The second motive, and far more telling, is that such recognition of the dangers of absolutism and fixed truths immediately opens Christianity's epic can of historical and contemporary worms. That is an "oops too far," even in this sad case.

Oh, well. I suppose some cartoons are on TV so I can refresh myself by trading up.
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And if I can just chime in on this great posting ...

Maybe I am getting both old and cynical, but in all of my time on the Forum, I have noticed that there has never even been so much as one theist on the Forum who has ever had the courage of his stated convictions.

For example, I used to wonder why all of the apostles of Jesus refused to speak up for Jesus after he got into trouble with the Romans, even though all of these honorable men were supposedly pledged to serve Jesus. Anyway, after seeing the various theist obfuscations and evasions that are all too typical of theists, I am firmly convinced that theism is simply incapable of actually providing one with any sort of real personal courage even though theists often claim that their belief in their god makes them so very strong.
 
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