Atheists destroy churches, attack the faithful

[The Big Dog]

say, lets chime in a post that has literally nothing at all to do with the Firm Marxist Atheists crack down and persecution of religious people.

1 million Muslims in camps, blatant human rights violations? The atheists are the victims here!

Oh man...

 

[Crossbow]

say, lets chime in a post that has literally nothing at all to do with the Firm Marxist Atheists crack down and persecution of religious people.

1 million Muslims in camps, blatant human rights violations? The atheists are the victims here!

Oh man...

If your god really is a god, then I am sure that it would take far more than several faux pathetic postings to an internet forum to win the favor of that god.

 

[dann]

Considering his view on religion, we can safely assume that he was an atheist.

He was an atheist in the sense that he didn't believe in gods, but what he argued was that the miserable living conditions of people made them need religion, "the opium of the people." Thus it would be futile to "call on them (the believers) "to give up their illusions about their condition" because that would be "to call on them to give up a condition that requires illusions." I.e. it makes no sense to try to persuade them to give up their faith in God. What's the point?! It would make much more sense to persuade them to fight against the social conditions, which are what made them religious in the first place.
This is what I mean when I say that Marx went beyond atheism and criticism of religion.

Karl Marx did not himself take any part in any revolution, he only published his ideas.

It's true that he never fired a gun, built a barricade or threw a paving stone at the police. But he did more than just publish his ideas. He was a part of the First International, and as early as 1845 he said that:

The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point is to change it.
Theses on Feuerbach (1845)

That he didn't succeed in changing it (much) doesn't mean that he didn't try.

His position is certainly not causative for the atheism of others, but his ideas may well have appealed to people who were already atheists.

I think his position actually has been causative for the atheism of major parts of the labour movement, but unfortunately many have misunderstood his account of the relationship between society and religion, the opium of the people, to mean that the bad clergy invent religion as a tool to manipulate the working classes as if most religious workers had no other reason to believe.
The many self-proclaimed Marxists who have tried to put a stop to religion by means of persecution can't really invoke Marx in support of their endeavor.

 

[MRC_Hans]

let me fix that for you:

veganism is to eating meat as atheism is to religion.

Would be the opposite:

eating meat is to veganism as atheism is to religion ..

However, the point was I tried to make sense of your car comparison. I'm glad you agree it didn't.

Hans

 

[The Big Dog]

Would be the opposite:

eating meat is to veganism as atheism is to religion ..

However, the point was I tried to make sense of your car comparison. I'm glad you agree it didn't.

Hans

I was comparing cars to bikes, but... yeah.

 

[halleyscomet]

Rinse, repeat.

I was comparing cars to bikes, but... yeah.

You claim that atheism is responsible for the crimes committed in China. What is it about atheism that, in your opinion, might be giving rise to such behavior?

Why do you believe Chinese atheists are committing such atrocities when atheists in, for example, Norway are not?

Either answer the questions or provide a link to the post where you allegedly addressed them.

 

[Dr. Keith]

I was comparing cars to bikes, but... yeah.

But some people drive cars and ride bikes.

Are those like the people who don't believe in god but still like to go to church?

Or are they more like the people who believe in god but take a job in the government, even if it is nominally an atheist government?

 

[The Big Dog]

But some people drive cars and ride bikes.

Are those like the people who don't believe in god but still like to go to church?

Or are they more like the people who believe in god but take a job in the government, even if it is nominally an atheist government?

Oh! Ohhhh. I see, an appeal to secret identity!

 

[lionking]

while we can quibble about Hitler status as an atheist, even he can't hold a candle to Atheist Monsters like Lenin, Stalin, and Mao.

Stalin went to a religious school and then a seminary as a trainee priest. Great training ground. Many, many monsters went down the same path. The church has a lot to answer for.

 

[Nay_Sayer]

Oh! Ohhhh. I see, an appeal to secret identity!

No need to go overboard. You already convinced me christianity is vile and false.

 

[The Big Dog]

Stalin went to a religious school and then a seminary as a trainee priest. Great training ground. Many, many monsters went down the same path. The church has a lot to answer for.

And there are very few fanatics worse than the converted. As proved by absolute monster Stalin. They become unhinged, morally depraved, desperate to prove themselves that they are loyal to the new regime, to show that they have thrown off any trace of the old morality and to prove it they embrace the most aggressive aspects of the new, to prove that they are new men, and if it takes shooting 78,000 clergy, by Marx that is what they will do.

Just read anti-religous converts who post on this website.

It is known as the Zeal of the Convert. Skeptics are already well aware of its impact

 

[abaddon]

while we can quibble about Hitler status as an atheist, even he can't hold a candle to Atheist Monsters like Lenin, Stalin, and Mao.

Really? Explain why your pope has concluded an agreement re the appointment of bishops in China in that case.

We all know why you avoid that and why you keep avoiding it.

 

[dann]

How unsearchable are His judgments, and His ways past finding out!

Bible Gateway

 

[dann]

veganism is to eating meat as atheism is to religion.

Would be the opposite:

eating meat is to veganism as atheism is to religion ..

No, I think it's more like:

veganism is to eating meat as atheism is to eating the body of Christ.

They find it unsavoury.

 

[fagin]

Supposed to taste like pork, so properly cooked I would.

 

[Thor 2]

Just read anti-religous converts who post on this website.

Wow! The Big Dog has got it right at last. We are ant-religious not anti - the religious. This is a red letter day folks.

 

[Cosmic Yak]

Hitler? Saddam Hussein? Idi Amin? General Pinochet? Mugabe? Dick Cheney? D ) Mussolini? Franco? Enver Pasha (architect of the Armenian genocide)? General Tojo? (WW2 Japanese commander).

You really should read more, old boy. Your knowledge of world events is sadly lacking.

while we can quibble about Hitler status as an atheist, even he can't hold a candle to Atheist Monsters like Lenin, Stalin, and Mao.

Strange that you make no mention of the atrocities committed by the Christian Pinochet, the Christian Mugabe, the Muslim Amin, the Catholic and Catholic-supported Franco. It's almost as if you care more about putting down atheists on the internet than the very real human rights abuses that religious believers have carried out. Have you nothing to say on this?

While we're on the subject of abuses, this was on the BBC this morning:

Chechyna has opened the first concentration camp for homosexuals since Hitler, where campaigners say gay men are being tortured with electric shocks and beaten to death.

It comes after it was claimed 100 gay men had been detained and three killed in Chechnya last week.


[President] Kadyrov, who introduced Islamic rule in the Muslim-majority region, has been accused of earlier human rights violations.

TBD, where is your outrage, and where is the outrage of religious leaders around the world?

 

[David Mo]

while we can quibble about Hitler status as an atheist, even he can't hold a candle to Atheist Monsters like Lenin, Stalin, and Mao.

Have you ever heard of the Holocaust? Are you a negacionist?

 

[David Mo]

Strange that you make no mention of the atrocities committed by the Christian Pinochet, the Christian Mugabe, the Muslim Amin, the Catholic and Catholic-supported Franco. It's almost as if you care more about putting down atheists on the internet than the very real human rights abuses that religious believers have carried out. Have you nothing to say on this?

While we're on the subject of abuses, this was on the BBC this morning:


TBD, where is your outrage, and where is the outrage of religious leaders around the world?

n Spain there are still more than one hundred thousand disappeared under the regime of General Franco, a great Catholic blessed by his holiness the Pope. Not counting so many other legal murders that deserved the name of "Crusade". Two other monsters.

 

[thaiboxerken]

Oooh. Atheists are evil.

I'm not impressed by the OP's premise. It's based on idiocy.