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Cont: The Trump Presidency IX: Nein, Nein!

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"I still have a picture on my mantel and it is a picture my mother had before that - a picture of my grandfather. And my Aunt Bee has walked by that picture at least a 1,000 times and remarked that he - her father, my Papaw -- had high cheek bones like all of the Indians do."
-- Elizabeth Warren (May 3, 2012)


Definitive proof from an impeccable source, Aunt Bee.
And something that played zero part in her professional career.

But please, start a thread in this, a forum for critical thinking, and let’s see if you can prove otherwise.
 
Trump Tweets

"The Woodward book is a Joke - just another assault against me, in a barrage of assaults, using now disproven unnamed and anonymous sources. Many have already come forward to say the quotes by them, like the book, are fiction. Dems can’t stand losing. I’ll write the real book!"

" The Woodward book is a scam. I don’t talk the way I am quoted. If I did I would not have been elected President. These quotes were made up. The author uses every trick in the book to demean and belittle. I wish the people could see the real facts - and our country is doing GREAT!"

“It is mostly anonymous sources in here, why should anyone trust you? General Mattis, General Kelly said it’s not true.” @SavannahGuthrie @TODAYshow Bob Woodward is a liar who is like a Dem operative prior to the Midterms. He was caught cold, even by NBC."

"Thank god for Trump!"

"STAND FOR THE NATIONAL ANTHEM!"
 
Trump also tweeted

"If the Democrats had won the Election in 2016, GDP, which was about 1% and going down, would have been minus 4% instead of up 4.2%. I opened up our beautiful economic engine with Regulation and Tax Cuts. Our system was choking and would have been made worse. Still plenty to do!"

"The Economy is soooo good, perhaps the best in our country’s history (remember, it’s the economy stupid!), that the Democrats are flailing & lying like CRAZY! Phony books, articles and T.V. “hits” like no other pol has had to endure-and they are losing big. Very dishonest people!"

"“President Trump would need a magic wand to get to 4% GDP,” stated President Obama. I guess I have a magic wand, 4.2%, and we will do MUCH better than this! We have just begun."
 
"I still have a picture on my mantel and it is a picture my mother had before that - a picture of my grandfather. And my Aunt Bee has walked by that picture at least a 1,000 times and remarked that he - her father, my Papaw -- had high cheek bones like all of the Indians do."
-- Elizabeth Warren (May 3, 2012)


Definitive proof from an impeccable source, Aunt Bee.

According to my octogenarian mother there is a town in California that is named after her uncle who owned the local mill or something. Every time I see that town name it makes me smile. I have even mentioned it to people from the area on the few occasions I have met them.

I have never done the independent research necessary to check whether my mom's story is true. I suppose that makes me a liar, too.
 
S and A along with his "Give Me More Insanity1" trope in 3..2..1...

Notice the the two biggest Trump Cult members here are seldom try to defend Trump, but just bad mouth his opponents?

My own feelings about tribalistic dualism having taken over and completely ruined the entire spectrum of political discussion are... well documented at this point but I will say that even among the Tribes the ones that think they "win" by erected the biggest possible negative totem of the other side are the worst.
 
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That's quite the assumption since no one has either proved or disproved that Warren has NA ancestry.

She's proved she isn't part Indian to my satisfaction. She won't take the test because she would fail. There is no rational reason for her not to support her claim if she could. Fake news would be running front page stories on this every day if Fauxcahontas was a Republican, saying exactly the same thing I am saying.
 
She's proved she isn't part Indian to my satisfaction. She won't take the test because she would fail. There is no rational reason for her not to support her claim if she could. Fake news would be running front page stories on this every day if Fauxcahontas was a Republican, saying exactly the same thing I am saying.

Naw, Trump has too many crazy, stupid, or scandalous events for many other front page stories. She'd have to get arrested to make front page, and so many Republicans are right now, it would have to be something good.
 
Naw, Trump has too many crazy, stupid, or scandalous events for many other front page stories. She'd have to get arrested to make front page, and so many Republicans are right now, it would have to be something good.

Consider that if only Republicans are investigated, only Republicans can be caught in perjury traps. Any idea why Manafort is being treated like El Chapo?
 
Consider that if only Republicans are investigated, only Republicans can be caught in perjury traps. Any idea why Manafort is being treated like El Chapo?

He isn't really, but his daughter's views seem to be that he should have been.


http://uk.businessinsider.com/paul-manafort-daughter-text-messages-ukraine-2017-3

In a series of texts reviewed by Business Insider that appear to have been sent by Andrea to her sister, Jessica, in March 2015, Andrea said their father had "no moral or legal compass."

"Don't fool yourself," Andrea wrote to her sister, according to the texts. "That money we have is blood money."

"You know he has killed people in Ukraine? Knowingly," she continued, according to the reviewed texts. "As a tactic to outrage the world and get focus on Ukraine. Remember when there were all those deaths taking place. A while back. About a year ago. Revolts and what not. Do you know whose strategy that was to cause that, to send those people out and get them slaughtered."
 
Consider that if only Republicans are investigated, only Republicans can be caught in perjury traps. Any idea why Manafort is being treated like El Chapo?

Republicans currently control both houses of congress, the presidency, and the supreme court is made up of a conservative majority. The majority of the statehouses are currently republican. Law enforcement, including the FBI, lean conservative/republican. And yet, Republicans are being investigated for various criminal enterprises. That would not imply, as you seem to be, that democrats are getting away with similar crimes due to some bias against the republicans. Rather, it implies that these republicans are so blatantly corrupt, even their erstwhile allies can't turn a blind eye.
 
Trump Tweets

"The Woodward book is a Joke - just another assault against me, in a barrage of assaults, using now disproven unnamed and anonymous sources. Many have already come forward to say the quotes by them, like the book, are fiction. Dems can’t stand losing. I’ll write the real book!"

" The Woodward book is a scam. I don’t talk the way I am quoted. If I did I would not have been elected President. These quotes were made up. The author uses every trick in the book to demean and belittle. I wish the people could see the real facts - and our country is doing GREAT!"

“It is mostly anonymous sources in here, why should anyone trust you? General Mattis, General Kelly said it’s not true.” @SavannahGuthrie @TODAYshow Bob Woodward is a liar who is like a Dem operative prior to the Midterms. He was caught cold, even by NBC."

"Thank god for Trump!"

"STAND FOR THE NATIONAL ANTHEM!"

It's like living in a dystopian novel where America is ruled by some facist dictator.
 
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It doesn't matter what political opinions any of us all, all of us should strive to have our opinions formed from facts, and none of us should trust sources that deliberately misrepresent and omit salient facts in order to push their own ideology - regardless of whether or not we agree with that ideology. In fact, I believe that we should be even more scrupulous in examining the claims of those who echo our own views, and in condemning those who use dishonest means to try to push views that we agree with.....
Yes and we should look at the sources of the criticism as well because the right wing sets on anyone who is successful with a message that hurts them. They've done this to both Clintons, to Gore, to Moore, to John Kerry, to Liz Warren and so on. And they are very good at it.

It's off topic for the thread to rehash this stuff but the link you cited has its own problems.
 
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