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The Nautilus case

dann said:
I have a hard time understanding why people weren't so creeped out by this guy that they refused to have anything to do with him.
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He was a billionaire with at least one really cool toy.
 
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Scordatura said:
*snip* Combine that anxiety with his sadism fetish bolstered by the gory videos and the result may have created a "perfect storm" culminating in the frenzied attack on Kim Wall. Could it have driven him into planning to commit suicide after fulfilling another dream of his - committing a gruesome attack on a woman?
I'm just speculating. *snip*
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Your speculation tends to be more informed rather than wild. However, I do tone down some of the background, the outwardly spectacular "perfect storm" and future intent of suicide.

To me, Peter Madsen was predisposed to paraphilia. That's my take on the background.

He invited a female on board his submarine in the same way some guys invite a female into their car.

Kim Wall (eventually) accepted the offer solely for professional reason. She was a journalist on journalist assignment. Her boyfriend decided not to board Madsen's submarine. Seems they trusted each other and Madsen.

Madsen's fantasy of a female accepting his invitation to be alone with him in his submarine became reality.

Madsen let his fantasy go further. Ms. Wall rejected Madsen's further intention. Madsen's fantasy blurred with his predisposition to paraphelia. Ms. Wall is dismembered.

Fantasy over. Madsen re-enters the public eye. No intention of suicide. As each excuse he makes is dismissed another excuse pops-up.

Just wondering. Why the trip had to commence at sunset? What moon it was that night?
 
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desmirelle said:
I've only ever seen him mentioned as an 'inventor' and 'entrepreneur', never as a 'billionaire'.
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He certainly isn't a billionaire. In fact I think not a man of means at all. The submarine was built by the help of volunteers and donated materials.

Hans
 
dellarte said:
Madsen's fantasy of a female accepting his invitation to be alone with him in his submarine became reality.
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That wasn't the first time he had women onboard the submarine. Deirdre King, a U.S. citizen living in Copenhagen, had had sex with him there. Immediately after the crime, she still believed that he was innocent. Now she suspects that he may have intended for her to become the (or maybe a) victim.
Neue Zürcher Zeitung (Feb. 23, 2018)
Ekstra Bladet (Feb. 24, 2018)
Ekstra Bladet (Sep. 9, 2017)
 
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»Han er ikke voldelig, han drikker ikke, tager ikke stoffer. Han er en mand med sunde værdier. Til gengæld skændes han med gud og hver mand,« siger Thomas Djursing.
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Peter Madsen har altid haft store drømme. Han har aldrig forstået, at almindelige mennesker kan finde tilfredsstillelse i almindeligt arbejde.
»Jeg håber, jeg på sigt får en kriminel løbebane. Ikke at jeg vil røve en bank. Nej for satan, det må ikke gå ud over nogen,« sagde han til Søndagsavisen i 2014. Men han vil gerne lave en happening af 'gigantiske dimensioner'.
Jyllands-Posten (Aug. 14, 2017)
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"He is not violent, he does not drink, does not take drugs. He is a man of healthy values. On the other hand, he is quarrels with everybody, "says Thomas Djursing.
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Peter Madsen has always had big dreams. He has never understood that ordinary people can find satisfaction in ordinary work.
"In the long run, I hope to have a career in crime. Not that I want to rob a bank. Hell no, it shouldn’t harm anybody," he said to Søndagsavisen in 2014. But he would like to make a happening of 'gigantic proportions'.


In my opinion, his size may have been what kept him from becoming a full-blown violent psychopath until ...
 
I notice that the scavengers are descending. Currently, his ex-GF is having her fifteen minutes of fame spilling juicy details of his/their sex-life.

I don't pity him, but ... tasteless it is.

Hans
 
Well, it's impossible to any more tasteless than Peter Madsen.
And most of his former acquaintances are probably pretending that they never really knew him all that well ... and never participated in his Nazi games ...
 
Turning towards the trial, with the first day being on this coming thursday. I assume that's for various technicalities surrounding the trial, as there's then a two week gap before the next set of court dates.

However, due to an impending labour conflict (strikes have already been announced, with lock-outs presumably due to follow), the case might grind to a halt after easter, as various members of the court staff has been selected for strike action.
 
dann said:
Well, it's impossible to any more tasteless than Peter Madsen.
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well, without any real qualifications to assess this, I still think that ... Peter Madsen is ... seriously ill.

And most of his former acquaintances are probably pretending that they never really knew him all that well ... and never participated in his Nazi games ...
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Yes, I have seen some being very busy putting as much distance between themselves and "Rocket Madsen" as they could. ... Can't blame them.

Hans
 
MRC_Hans said:
well, without any real qualifications to assess this, I still think that ... Peter Madsen is ... seriously ill.
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Well, probably not ill in the eyes of the law.

Yes, I have seen some being very busy putting as much distance between themselves and "Rocket Madsen" as they could. ... Can't blame them.
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No, and it's very similar what happened when famous TV psychic Graham Bishop tried to kill his daughters: TV-clairvoyant vil erklæres sindssyg efter drabsforsøg på sine tvillinger (Ekstra Bladet, Dec. 18, 2012). For some reason, all the amateur psychics stopped advertising that they had had Graham Bishop as a teacher of their 'craft' ...
I would have declared him insane the first time I saw him on TV channelling his spirit guide Dr. Karl: Father sentenced to eleven years in prison and deportation for assault on his twin daughters (CPH Post, Nov. 20, 2013)

Graham Bishop channelling Dr. Karl (begins at 4:28):

 
dann said:
Well, probably not ill in the eyes of the law.
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Well, time will tell. He may be sentenced to custody (in Denmark, that is essentially an indeterminate time sentence, in contrast to the longest regular sentence, which is 16 years).

Hans
 
dann said:
They (Retslægerådet) don't seem to think that he's clinically insane, but ...
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No, I know, but that assessment was, if I recall right, made before the most gruesome details became known.

But again, we'll see. Will probably take quite some time before the trial is completely over.

Hans
 
I think it's expected to be over this month. They begin tomorrow.
 
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