Cont: The Trump Presidency Part IV

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BobTheCoward said:
And told them what?

Unplanned drills are some of the best drills.
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How about told the, they weren't under attack? That might be reassuring, hearing from the highest authority in The Executive Branch, that they aren't under attack.

A real president would do that.

Oh, and this wasn't a drill. This was a mistake. Real drills are done to exercise the system, are planned and have evaluators on hand, and you, for obvious reasons here know it's a drill.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
What 'lucrative trade deals'? Trump has no intention of offering anyone anywhere a dewal that is anything other than 'lucrative' in his own eyes which means that if he doesn't get what he wants he will cheat and steal just like he has done all his business life.
Anything trump says or offers is worthless, he lies and lies and can't be trusted by anyone.
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OF course, remember in Trumpland there are Winners and Losers in every deal and the goal is to make America the Winner by making everyone else the Loser. How is that supposed to help the UK?
 
quadraginta said:
I've already said in no uncertain terms that I have no opinion about whether or not the expense of the building is warranted, and was making no comment relating to that. I don't understand why you persist in responding as if I was being critical of the price.

And I can only admire that someone was able to pay for a $1 billion dollar building with $481 million. Can't complain about that. :p

Five acres isn't all that impressive. The Pentagon has a five acre courtyard. Inside the building. The building itself adds another 28 acres to that.
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So what you are saying is that we needed to move the embassy out of the city to somewhere land was more affordable. OF course it was also built on land already belonging to the government.

It we simply wanted to build a large office building on land we already own of course we could get better value.
 
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It seems to me that of all the irrelevant issues floating around the Trump presidency, whether or not he said "I" or "I'd" is the least relevant.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
It seems to me that of all the irrelevant issues floating around the Trump presidency, whether or not he said "I" or "I'd" is the least relevant.
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True.

But if he’s going to accuse the Wall Street Journal of intentionally misreporting his words, it seems important enough to weigh the evidence that that’s what actually happened.
 
There's humor, though, in the argumentation.

He said, "I have....", what a liar!
No, he said "I'd have..." and that's been shown to be true, what with all the rounds of golf and the warm friendly negotiations he's started.

:D
 
Stacyhs said:
Not according to the Washington Times Oct 19, 2016:



Reagan is invoked so often by Republicans that I'm surprised he isn't referred to as St. Ronnie of Reagan.
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Yes and that is the way they want to keep it, and ignore his actual policies and politics.
 
Craig4 said:
How about told the, they weren't under attack? That might be reassuring, hearing from the highest authority in The Executive Branch, that they aren't under attack.

A real president would do that.

Oh, and this wasn't a drill. This was a mistake. Real drills are done to exercise the system, are planned and have evaluators on hand, and you, for obvious reasons here know it's a drill.
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Not all drills are known to be drills at the time.

How stupid do you have to be that the president is more reassuring to you than a captain at the local military facility. Both of them are just some person.

I'm an adult. I don't look to the president for anything.
 
Fast Eddie B said:
I hear “I”, not “I’d”.

And the former is much more consistent with both what precedes and follows it.

Edited to all: WOW! Scroll and read the comments. It’s a whole ‘nother blue dress vs. gold dress thing!
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I think Trump is a horrible person, but to be honest I hear "I'd'",
what immediately follows it is "I would...." then he ends that 'thought' and says "I have relationships with people, I think you people are surprised"
In that twitter clip they didn't put the "I would..." in subtitles, which seems a bit dishonest as he did say that too.
 
I feel like the shock at the time was the notion that the president had possibly communicated directly. He purposely obfuscated on the follow up question. Was there much discussion of the statement on the good idea/bad idea spectrum?
 
BobTheCoward said:
Not all drills are known to be drills at the time.

How stupid do you have to be that the president is more reassuring to you than a captain at the local military facility. Both of them are just some person.

I'm an adult. I don't look to the president for anything.
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You're not the electorate and your beliefs have been rejected by the people ever since Libertarians attempted to run for office. We have decided not to have presidents along your model and yours is not the government we want.

As to nuclear attack drills, having spent many hours doing them, yes you ALWAYS know it's a drill. The reason for that is that you would never want an enemy to pick up on the fact that you're in the final preparation for a nuclear attack. They might assume that you're evacuating or sheltering citizens in anticipation of their response.

The "captain" of the local facility is not in possession of the view of the world; the president is. It would be more reassuring for most people, to hear from the person at the head of the executive who is in charge of all US Forces that they are not under attack. Moreover, the President has more and better ways to reach out to the people of Hawaii than your "captain".
 
Craig4 said:
You're not the electorate and your beliefs have been rejected by the people ever since Libertarians attempted to run for office. We have decided not to have presidents along your model and yours is not the government we want.

As to nuclear attack drills, having spent many hours doing them, yes you ALWAYS know it's a drill. The reason for that is that you would never want an enemy to pick up on the fact that you're in the final preparation for a nuclear attack. They might assume that you're evacuating or sheltering citizens in anticipation of their response.

The "captain" of the local facility is not in possession of the view of the world; the president is. It would be more reassuring for most people, to hear from the person at the head of the executive who is in charge of all US Forces that they are not under attack. Moreover, the President has more and better ways to reach out to the people of Hawaii than your "captain".
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I didn't say nuclear attack drills. I said drills. There are other important drills in the world.

If the president is more reassuring to people then we are doomed as human beings in possession of individual will. We are then merely the legal property of the government.
 
BobTheCoward said:
I didn't say nuclear attack drills. I said drills. There are other important drills in the world.

If the president is more reassuring to people then we are doomed as human beings in possession of individual will. We are then merely the legal property of the government.
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That's just some silly little Libertarianism hyperbole. We elect presidents to lead the nation.
 
Craig4 said:
That's just some silly little Libertarianism hyperbole. We elect presidents to lead the nation.
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No, presidents are elected to exercise the powers and duties listed in article 2 of the Constitution. At no point does that mean the president is leading the nation.

Article 2 is not libertarian hyperbole.
 
Craig4 said:
How are the functions of Article 2 not leadership?
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..of the executive branch. I am an American citizen. I'm not part of the executive branch. I'm not being led in any capacity by him. The president exercises his powers, I exercise mine,and we interact at the boundaries of laws. At no point is that an act of leadership over me.
 
Craig, you've been Bobbed. It's when common usages of words are ignored to bolster an argument.
 
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