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Trump - One Term or Two

Abooga said:
True, those speeches condemning corruption and unethical lobbying are equally likely to be just for winning votes...
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A rhetorical weapon against an enemy. I see nothing in his past which even hints at anti-corruption activism. Do you?
 
Hlafordlaes said:
Keep dreaming. All three branches of the US govt will soon be dominated by jackbooted thugs. I sincerely doubt the 2018 elections will be clean, as voters will be massively disenfranchised as old white boys take back their country. It's what they've been saying; it's what they will do. Any and all things that benefit white male power are good and holy for what is clearly a growing majority of 'true' Americans.

I've seen that same racism here on ISF in many guises, usually associating the white race with democracy and scientific progress, "the West brought us all good things," and so on. Not unsurprisingly, an unscientific viewpoint, as race has nothing to do with the ability to handle universal truths.

Epic, epic fail.
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Sing it, brother.
 
trustbutverify said:
A rhetorical weapon against an enemy. I see nothing in his past which even hints at anti-corruption activism. Do you?
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Not really. I guess I´ve been projecting my own wishes, since corruption is one of the issues that worries me most...
 
It's easy to entice Americas dumb white trash electorate with the possibility that their old jobs are coming back instead of being "stolen by immigrants and the Chinese". Unfortunately they aren't coming back so we'll see how long the angry and anxious masses puts up with all of his empty promises and rhetoric.
 
Arcade22 said:
It's easy to entice Americas dumb white trash electorate with the possibility that their old jobs are coming back instead of being "stolen by immigrants and the Chinese". Unfortunately they aren't coming back so we'll see how long the angry and anxious masses puts up with all of his empty promises and rhetoric.
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You know, this kind of talk of dumb white trash electorate is a big part as to why Trump won. Accurate or no, you can't afford to talk that way if you can't handle the backlash. Trump didn't speak about dumb beaners and sandniggers, but somehow he's bad because he speaks down to certain groups of people, but those that oppose him are good even though their approach isn't much better. It just targets other groups. The result was that this other group then elected "their" guy.

Pretty much with every response I see I'm more convinced that Trump was indeed a natural product of the spirit of the time. This had nothing to do with the dumb white trash electorate, you have and always had dumb trash voters in all electorate groups. Whites are just no exception to that, what of it? They simply felt this was their guy at last, so they voted for him in droves.

Want to make him a one term president? Look inside and fix your mistakes first. By and large they're hardly any smaller than his.

McHrozni
 
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Arcade22 said:
It's easy to entice Americas dumb white trash electorate with the possibility that their old jobs are coming back instead of being "stolen by immigrants and the Chinese". Unfortunately they aren't coming back so we'll see how long the angry and anxious masses puts up with all of his empty promises and rhetoric.
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They'll put up with it indefinitely because Trump and his fellow travelers will continue to blame foreigners, immigrants, minorities and so on for whatever is supposed to be wrong with the U.S.

He'll just need to keep upping the rhetoric as the failure to deliver becomes more and more apparent. Even if he is successful in repatriating U.S. jobs, the resulting inflationary pressure will make people's head spin. Of course wages can rise to compensate but eventually it becomes uneconomic to manufacture in the US again.
 
I expect there will be a powerful Russian American alliance.
I think this is fantastic, we in New Zealand have become servants to purulent and corrupt Chinese money.
I read all the Russian authors, devoured the music.
Thank god there is a chance of a cultural rennaisance, a strong rebuttal of Asian hegemony.
You should be a proud country to be forging a new history, one that deplores corruption and organ harvesting.
 
Samson said:
I expect there will be a powerful Russian American alliance.
I think this is fantastic, we in New Zealand have become servants to purulent and corrupt Chinese money.
I read all the Russian authors, devoured the music.
Thank god there is a chance of a cultural rennaisance, a strong rebuttal of Asian hegemony.
You should be a proud country to be forging a new history, one that deplores corruption and organ harvesting.
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You said 'deplores' you meddlesome hobbit.
 
Samson said:
I expect there will be a powerful Russian American alliance.
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I'm looking forward to it.

The reason for that is because the prerequisite for that is for the scientists to develop and clone pigs with functional wings, which will be great for barbecue.

McHrozni
 
Samson said:
I expect there will be a powerful Russian American alliance.
I think this is fantastic, we in New Zealand have become servants to purulent and corrupt Chinese money.
I read all the Russian authors, devoured the music.
Thank god there is a chance of a cultural rennaisance, a strong rebuttal of Asian hegemony.
You should be a proud country to be forging a new history, one that deplores corruption and organ harvesting.
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Fantastic is the word that comes to mind.
 
McHrozni said:
I'm looking forward to it.

The reason for that is because the prerequisite for that is for the scientists to develop and clone pigs with functional wings, which will be great for barbecue.

McHrozni
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Sputnik Apollo, let the science continue.
So sad that 50 years have nearly passed. Forget the pathetic Europeans, can't you all see how you have missed what was right before your eyes,
Two terms not enough.
Trump will figure a way like Pooty Poots.

President, Prime minister, President,.....

Seriously I am the only person I know that sees a massive, unprecedented opportunity.
 
McHrozni said:
I'm looking forward to it.

The reason for that is because the prerequisite for that is for the scientists to develop and clone pigs with functional wings, which will be great for barbecue.

McHrozni
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Can you imagine those delicious bacon wings?
Somehow I think Trump and Putin are more likely to bump heads.
 
75% of Europeans wanted Clinton
75% of Russians wanted Trump.
Facts

This is incredible, unprecedented, massive, completely misunderstood or not even noticed.
 
I think it will be one term, partly because I think that's all Trump will want, partly because he won't turn out to be the cure-all many might expect.

It's time to give the GOP the win, see what develops over the next 4 years and hope for better candidates on both sides in 2020.
 
Samson said:
Sputnik Apollo, let the science continue.
So sad that 50 years have nearly passed. Forget the pathetic Europeans, can't you all see how you have missed what was right before your eyes,
Two terms not enough.
Trump will figure a way like Pooty Poots.

President, Prime minister, President,.....

Seriously I am the only person I know that sees a massive, unprecedented opportunity.
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US constitution was written in a far more competent way. The only way Trump could get more than two terms if he gets another body.

Any similarities with Futurama may not be entirely coincidental :o

McHrozni
 
McHrozni said:
You know, this kind of talk of dumb white trash electorate is a big part as to why Trump won. Accurate or no, you can't afford to talk that way if you can't handle the backlash.
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Read an article lately about trailer trash/white trash in the Atlantic. An interesting point made by the author (who was reviewing two recent books on the topic of the state of poor, rural whites in America for the past 200 years as well as recently) was about how few of them vote and how hard they are to reach by political machines.

Which informs my criticism of the post that you responded to: they don't know what they are talking about. Donald Trump is indeed a symbol of the spirit of our time, and for that matter so is Hillary Clinton: they each represent different defects in our political condition.
aup said:
I'll go for one.
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You don't get a vote, unless you recently moved here.

I'll be interested to see if the turnout for this election, in terms of numbers, is any different than the last four. Have a friend who teaches political science (university) who does data collection and analysis of voting trends and turnout.
 
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I predict he will be impeached within six weeks of being sworn in.

And wait, we haven't heard from BLM yet. I think protests are going to go ballistic.
 
My only hope is that this is some sort of chemotherapy brings to light and kills an ugly cancer that metastasized in the US... Hopefully it doesn't kill the country first.
 
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