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Disclose.

Ignoring any ethical imperative to tell the truth over something this mind-boggling, the aliens can blow the secret out of the water if it every occurs to them to do so. Why deliberately put yourself in a position where at someone else's whim, you'll be exposed as a liar?
 
Jodie said:
Just because someone has superior technology doesn't automatically mean they are going to land here and give you the blue prints. They may not see us as any different than cattle.
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True.

Or we are their cattle.

Or we are their experiment. (or one of many)

And/or they are monitoring results of genetic design modifications iplemented from time to time.

Endless possibilities I suppose.
 
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Bubba said:
Of course.

Lets collaborate on a thread for that
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Oh, how would you implied a secret government in that thread?

ACTUALLY why don't you do a thread on how the secret government created the entire UFO issue because - well - they are just evil.....lol
 
Bubba said:
Call it a sci-fi project if you wish.
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Interesting hypothetical, and I'd let the cat out of the bag. Humans learning they aren't as special or clever as they thought wouldn't be a bad thing.

Much more interesting are the responses, however, especially those who are incapable of accepting a hypothetical posited for no reason other than fun, demanding to know what your agenda is.

Fascinating.
 
jaydeehess said:
Disclose. ....but to whom?
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WHO OR WHAT is this information being disclosed to?

Isn't this a basic question?
Has it not been ignored thus far in this thread?

Obviously if Bubba's OP items are known then it is NOT likely an individual that has this info. (That happens in movies) So it would more likely be a group, a university research group or a military research group, or an organization such as NASA or private space based company(Like Virgin Galactic).
 
jaydeehess said:
WHO OR WHAT is this information being disclosed to?
Isn't this a basic question?
Has it not been ignored thus far in this thread?
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Sorry, forgot to get back to your question.

A handful of willing posters capable of rational participation in this exercise seemed to understand that it is the world in general aka earthlings to be informed about alien visitors, if you decide to disclose.

I hope that helps with your decision to disclose or not.

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(I did mention it in post #16 though):

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My answer is...... Disclose.
Per the hypothetical...

I know for certain that ET/aliens are visiting planet earth in spacecraft. Performance of their ships demonstrates technology beyond our understanding of physics. It is my responsibility to disclose or not disclose this to the world.
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Obviously if Bubba's OP items are known then it is NOT likely an individual that has this info. (That happens in movies) So it would more likely be a group, a university research group or a military research group, or an organization such as NASA or private space based company(Like Virgin Galactic)
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Actually in this hypothetical exercise...

a) it is an individual (shaman or chief astrologer or president or queen etc) faced with deciding to disclose or not.

b) a handful of underlings (pilots/advisors) might know of it but it will not be leaked, not ever.


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The Atheist said:
Interesting hypothetical, and I'd let the cat out of the bag. Humans learning they aren't as special or clever as they thought wouldn't be a bad thing.

Much more interesting are the responses, however, especially those who are incapable of accepting a hypothetical posited for no reason other than fun, demanding to know what your agenda is.

Fascinating.
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:thumbsup:


Yes, I noticed that too.

More interesting, very informative IMO, and sometimes entertaining.



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The Atheist said:
Interesting hypothetical, and I'd let the cat out of the bag. Humans learning they aren't as special or clever as they thought wouldn't be a bad thing. Much more interesting are the responses, however, especially those who are incapable of accepting a hypothetical posited for no reason other than fun, demanding to know what your agenda is.

Fascinating.
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Interesting take.

"would't be a bad thing" could actually be a really good thing.
 
Bubba said:
Sorry, forgot to get back to your question.

A handful of willing posters capable of rational participation in this exercise seemed to understand that it is the world in general aka earthlings to be informed about alien visitors, if you decide to disclose.

I hope that helps with your decision to disclose or not.

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(I did mention it in post #16 though):







Actually in this hypothetical exercise...

a) it is an individual (shaman or chief astrologer or president or queen etc) faced with deciding to disclose or not.

b) a handful of underlings (pilots/advisors) might know of it but it will not be leaked, not ever.


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That simply begs the question of the method of disclosure "to the World".

Is there a lack of persons on the internet claiming pretty much exactly what you outline in the OP?

David Icke springs to mind immediately. Headlines in News of the World and similar media also come up. I have seen pictures of several US Presidents shaking hands with an alien for example.

That said I reiterate that it is sci-fi movie fiction that sees a lone researcher discover earthshattering information.

BTW in my first post I did say "disclose".
 
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The Atheist said:
Much more interesting are the responses, however, especially those who are incapable of accepting a hypothetical posited for no reason other than fun, demanding to know what your agenda is.

Fascinating.
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I suspect it's from many years of having people with actual agendas posing similar hypotheticals, and then playing "Gotcha!" with those who answer their questions in a straightforward manner.

I'm personally not bothered by such shenanigans, which is why I played along. Even if Bubba tries a Gotcha, it just makes it more fun, as I explain why his Gotcha doesn't apply :D
 
jaydeehess said:
Is there a lack of persons on the internet claiming pretty much exactly what you outline in the OP?

David Icke springs to mind immediately. Headlines in News of the World and similar media also come up. I have seen pictures of several US Presidents shaking hands with an alien for example.
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And that of course points out the fundamental difference between what is proposed in the OP, and what we see on the internet.

If we had so much evidence that we could with confidence reach the conclusions as laid out in the OP, we'd of necessity have far more evidence than what is currently on offer by the David Ickes of the world. A few blurry photos of "Something" in the sky, and few drunk rednecks telling tales would not be sufficient.

I'm not sure what would be sufficient to allow us to arrive at the proposed conclusions, but it would have to be way more than that.
 
jaydeehess said:
That simply begs the question of the method of disclosure "to the World".
Is there a lack of persons on the internet claiming pretty much exactly what you outline in the OP?

David Icke springs to mind immediately. Headlines in News of the World and similar media also come up. I have seen pictures of several US Presidents shaking hands with an alien for example.

That said I reiterate that it is sci-fi movie fiction that sees a lone researcher discover earthshattering information.

BTW in my first post I did say "disclose".
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Opening post said "Call it a sci-fi project if you wish."

Have it at it as sci-fi if that helps you participate.

Hypothetical/fiction/science fiction.....take your pick....give it a shot.

What would you do....disclose, or not?


BTW you may simply say disclose or not disclose. The method of disclosure is not included in this hypothetical exercise.


But if it helps, .....leaflets. Tri-fold, Bi-color Leaflets. Dropped from biplanes, blimps, and balloons.

And messengers afoot shall dash to every village and vale. By hook or by crook everyone shall hear about the visitors. Its your call. You need only to make a decision.


That simply begs the question of the method of disclosure "to the World".
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No. Not anymore. You are free. Free at last to make that decision.


Disclose, or not?
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ooops sorry. You did say disclose earlier. I had you mixed with nitpickers avoiding it. Sorry!
 
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Bubba said:
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Of course your power to choose disclosing or not preempts leaks.

There are no leaks if you choose not to disclose the ET presence.

I should have known better than assuming that would be understood.

Feel free to weigh in with that condition (no leaks possible) added to the hypothetical question.
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Your hypothetical assumes too much. Assuming you can preempt a leak is like presuming you can stop breathing, or the sun will not rise tomorrow. with something this big you simply can't assume n o leaks anymore than you can assume no one else will find the Aliens

This is a fantasy hypothetical whose likelihood of occurring in real life I rate as miniscule and thus not worth discussing.
 
Pacal said:
Your hypothetical assumes too much. Assuming you can preempt a leak is like presuming you can stop breathing, or the sun will not rise tomorrow. with something this big you simply can't assume n o leaks anymore than you can assume no one else will find the Aliens

This is a fantasy hypothetical whose likelihood of occurring in real life I rate as miniscule and thus not worth discussing.
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So would you say you are capable, or incapable of participating ?
 
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