Hillary Clinton is Done: part 2

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You need hard evidence, if you know what I mean. You're not going to get that in a doctor's office, believe me. As for Lewinsky, I don't think she has described her experiences in the detail required. At least not in any testimony that has been unsealed.

Now that I think about it, I'm starting to wonder how Hillary got her name, Crooked Hillary. It might not be because she's dishonest and corrupt. ;)
IOW, you don't need evidence Jone was truthful, but the 2 doctors and Lewinsky they're just not credible.

Give it up, Jones was the least credible of the accusations.
 
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I think Paula Jones' accusations are quite believable. On the other hand, it's not exactly some great crime for a man to invite a woman up to his hotel room, drop his drawers and ask her to perform a sex act. It's a little rude maybe. It's also entirely consistent with Bill Clinton's well-established history of horndoggedness. Paula Jones suffered legal setbacks only because she couldn't show that being exposed to Bill's disfigured member was such a trauma that it was worth hundreds of thousands of dollars in restitution.


Clinton Settles Paula Jones Lawsuit for $850,000

"President [Horndog] Clinton reached an out-of-court settlement with Paula Jones yesterday, agreeing to pay her $850,000 to drop the sexual harassment lawsuit that led to the worst political crisis of his career and only the third presidential impeachment inquiry in American history.

"After more than 4 1/2 years of scorched-earth legal warfare, Clinton and Jones brought a sudden end to the case with a four-page deal in which he acknowledged no wrongdoing and offered no apology.

"Robert S. Bennett, Clinton's chief attorney in the case, said the president still insists Jones's allegations of a crude proposition in a Little Rock hotel suite seven years ago "are baseless" but agreed to make the payment in the interest of finally putting the matter behind him."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/jones111498.htm (November 14, 1998)

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Every time I read one of these heartwarming stories about Crooked Hillary and her perverted husband, I have an unexplained craving for a cigar. Go figure.
 
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Sure you do. However, you should take responsibility for your actions. In this election, if you want the most left-wing government there is, you should vote for Clinton, as not doing so helps ensure you get the most right-wing government there is. And a loudmouth buffon and extremist populist for a president.

"The most left-wing government there is"? Clinton will lead us into war and hand out favors to Wall Street. I don't want to see another recession. Trump seems much less likely to lead us into war than Clinton, and I am anti-war, so the "lesser of two evils" argument is shaky at best.

I have already pledged not to vote for Clinton, and I don't see that changing any time soon. So, if anything, my vote is being "stolen" from Trump, not Hillary.
 
... I have already pledged not to vote for Clinton, and I don't see that changing any time soon. So, if anything, my vote is being "stolen" from Trump, not Hillary.
Never mind the scenario under discussion, pledges of this sort are a really bad idea. The pledge takes on a life of its own, locking the pledger into a rigid mindset.

"I have already pledged..."
 
"The most left-wing government there is"? Clinton will lead us into war and hand out favors to Wall Street. I don't want to see another recession. Trump seems much less likely to lead us into war than Clinton, and I am anti-war, so the "lesser of two evils" argument is shaky at best.
You got all that watching him on The Apprentice didn't you? He makes Sarah Palin look like a decorated statesmen.

Trump: "I like the poorly educated".
 
You got all that watching him on The Apprentice didn't you? He makes Sarah Palin look like a decorated statesmen.

Trump: "I like the poorly educated".

Trump loves us poorly educated citizens because unlike graduate students we aren't so paralyzed with fear from microaggressions we are unable to function.
 
Trump loves us poorly educated citizens because unlike graduate students we aren't so paralyzed with fear from microaggressions we are unable to function.

Wait ..what?

You buy the 'he's not PC' narrative then? How cool. That skill will surely come in handy as POTUS. :rolleyes:
 
You got all that watching him on The Apprentice didn't you? He makes Sarah Palin look like a decorated statesmen.

Trump: "I like the poorly educated".

I've never seen The Apprentice, actually. (If he won the election and told Hillary she was fired, that would be amazing, though.)

There's a good article on Salon called "A liberal case for Donald Trump" that explains why a Trump presidency might be preferable.

Third parties are really where it's at, though...especially in this election. I've heard that Gary Johnson is already polling at 10% (!)
 
I probably should have said you find her despicable:

...If you're asking why she is the way she is, i.e. dishonest, answering that requires a deep dive into her psyche. I think in part it's a genetic predisposition, in part it's due to her high intelligence (it takes brains to lie somewhat consistently), and in part it's due to her experience in getting away with lying most of her life...

...Hillary Clinton is dishonest because she has told whopper after whopper for 25 years, and she does it almost automatically and reflexively...A Hillary Clinton lie is more like making a doody in somebody's sock drawer and covering up the smell with air freshener.

You're young(ish), so you probably don't have an appreciation for the depth of her dishonesty. She had already established herself as a reflexive/automatic liar 20 years ago...

It's amusing that Hillary supporters like Skeptic Ginger point to Hillary's sordid past as some sort of strength.
 
You've accuse her of being dishonest many times, do you ever give examples? For instance, you wrote that Clinton has told "whopper after whopper for 25 years." What exactly are you referring to?
 
You've accuse her of being dishonest many times, do you ever give examples? For instance, you wrote that Clinton has told "whopper after whopper for 25 years." What exactly are you referring to?

I've linked before to Bill Safire's article from 20 years ago. It's a good summary of her most egregious lies prior to 1996. He doesn't even list the dishonesty on display in this extremely cringeworthy spectacle:

 
I've linked before to Bill Safire's article from 20 years ago. It's a good summary of her most egregious lies prior to 1996. He doesn't even list the dishonesty on display in this extremely cringeworthy spectacle:


News Flash, wife supports husband against allegations of infidelity.

What is this supposed to prove? The election is about Hillary, not Bill.
 
The election is about Hillary, not Bill.


Hillary Clinton Shapes Potential New Role for Bill Clinton

"In an election year when Bill Clinton’s policies and personal indiscretions have faced intense scrutiny, Hillary Clinton is beginning to shape the role her husband would play in her administration, zeroing in on economic growth and job creation as crucial missions for the former president.

"Mrs. Clinton told voters in Kentucky on Sunday that Mr. Clinton would be “in charge of revitalizing the economy, because, you know, he knows how to do it,” especially “in places like coal country and inner cities.” On a campaign swing this month before the West Virginia primary, she said her husband has “got to come out of retirement and be in charge” of creating jobs."

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/17/us/politics/bill-hillary-clinton-administration-economy.html?_r=0 (May 16, 2016)

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This election is about Crooked Hillary, *and* Bill.
 
Hillary Clinton Shapes Potential New Role for Bill Clinton

"In an election year when Bill Clinton’s policies and personal indiscretions have faced intense scrutiny, Hillary Clinton is beginning to shape the role her husband would play in her administration, zeroing in on economic growth and job creation as crucial missions for the former president.

"Mrs. Clinton told voters in Kentucky on Sunday that Mr. Clinton would be “in charge of revitalizing the economy, because, you know, he knows how to do it,” especially “in places like coal country and inner cities.” On a campaign swing this month before the West Virginia primary, she said her husband has “got to come out of retirement and be in charge” of creating jobs."

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/17/us/politics/bill-hillary-clinton-administration-economy.html?_r=0 (May 16, 2016)

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This election is about Crooked Hillary, *and* Bill.

You've been touting this for a fortnight now - time to get some new material :rolleyes:
 
"The most left-wing government there is"? Clinton will lead us into war and hand out favors to Wall Street. I don't want to see another recession. Trump seems much less likely to lead us into war than Clinton, and I am anti-war, so the "lesser of two evils" argument is shaky at best.

Trump seems less likely to lead you into a war? You haven't been paying attention at all then.

I have already pledged not to vote for Clinton, and I don't see that changing any time soon. So, if anything, my vote is being "stolen" from Trump, not Hillary.

Whatever.
 
I've never seen The Apprentice, actually. (If he won the election and told Hillary she was fired, that would be amazing, though.)

There's a good article on Salon called "A liberal case for Donald Trump" that explains why a Trump presidency might be preferable.

Third parties are really where it's at, though...especially in this election. I've heard that Gary Johnson is already polling at 10% (!)

That's actually a crap article that's already been discussed here.
 
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