Poll: Are you happy with Windows 10?

[LTC8K6]

My overall impression of Windows 10? Meh.

It's better than 8 or 8.1, so I'm glad I updated my Win8 computer. But I still had to install Classic Shell because the "returned start menu" is just a small version of the metro screen glued onto an inefficient imitation of a real menu.

The Metro apps might be okay on a dinky cell phone but on a real computer, they're incredibly lame.

I still hate the schizophrenic Control Panel/Settings setup. All of that stuff should be in the same place, preferably Control Panel.

I hate the forced updating, especially since it seems to take forever in 10.

I won't be "upgrading" any of my Win7 Ultimate installations to 10 and I'll be taking impeccable care of those computers.

I removed the tiles so that I just have a plain start menu. I knew I would not be using the tiles. I like the alphabetical jump feature in the start menu. It can stay small, and I can still quickly find the program that I need by clicking on the letter or number that it starts with.

 

[Darat]

Of course anyone can predict that new technology or a new generation of security threats will make a next big release of Windows unavoidable. But it appears that in MS they ALREADY know that the support of this release will be no different than any other and that at some point Windows 10 will become obsolete. The question is, if they already know that, then why talk about "the final version of Windows" ? I could speculate it's a marketing trick, only the OS is free for the vast majority of users. It looks more probable to me that they would like to justify the new status of unavoidable, continuous and often stealthy updates (or "updates"). And why would they do that ? Data mining ? Advertising ? Product pushing ? Probably something along these lines.

I think what they are doing is establishing that they are going to follow the model of Linux, OS and the like going forward. So that doesn't mean that there won't be huge changes, for example the kernel could be replaced to cope with new technology it's that that will be rolled out as Windows 10.X. It's recognition of the fact that in the land of OSs it is now about continuous roll outs rather than a once every 5 years big new version; people with Windows 10 won't be paying out for Windows 10 again unless it's a new installation on new hardware (and even then it will be probably be factored into the cost of the hardware). Personally I think it is the right way forward.

 

[elgarak]

I removed the tiles so that I just have a plain start menu. I knew I would not be using the tiles. I like the alphabetical jump feature in the start menu. It can stay small, and I can still quickly find the program that I need by clicking on the letter or number that it starts with.

How did you do that?

As far as I can see, there's no option for doing that in the system preferences.

 

[El Greco]

I think what they are doing is establishing that they are going to follow the model of Linux, OS and the like going forward. So that doesn't mean that there won't be huge changes, for example the kernel could be replaced to cope with new technology it's that that will be rolled out as Windows 10.X. It's recognition of the fact that in the land of OSs it is now about continuous roll outs rather than a once every 5 years big new version; people with Windows 10 won't be paying out for Windows 10 again unless it's a new installation on new hardware (and even then it will be probably be factored into the cost of the hardware). Personally I think it is the right way forward.

That would make sense if they hadn't already announced that Windows 10 will be supported until 2025. So, what will happen then ? Windows 10 will not be receiving any more updates ? Why ?

It's not a question of huge changes or not. It's the paradox that they have announced the end of life of their supposedly last OS. It would make sense only if MS would completely stop producing Windows after 2025. Which, I suppose, is possible. They will start making a new OS, called Doors, and Windows 10 will have indeed been the last version of Windows.

 

[alfaniner]

How did you do that?

As far as I can see, there's no option for doing that in the system preferences.

Right click on tile, choose from popup menu. I think there are two choices you want to look at: Turn Off Live Tile, and Unpin From Start.

 

[KDLarsen]

Oddly, I kind of like the tile feature, especially once they worked out the wonkiness that prevented people from pinning non-default progr-sorry, "apps" to it.

I've got a handful of programs I use for one of my hobbies, and having each of them as a small tile in a single group makes it so much faster for me to get to them.

 

[elgarak]

Right click on tile, choose from popup menu. I think there are two choices you want to look at: Turn Off Live Tile, and Unpin From Start.

D'oh!

That's so simple that I didn't think of it. I was hoping there was some trick to turn ALL of them off at once (mostly because I was browsing through the preferences and only saw the option to turn on MORE of them).

 

[Darat]

That would make sense if they hadn't already announced that Windows 10 will be supported until 2025. So, what will happen then ? Windows 10 will not be receiving any more updates ? Why ?

It's not a question of huge changes or not. It's the paradox that they have announced the end of life of their supposedly last OS. It would make sense only if MS would completely stop producing Windows after 2025. Which, I suppose, is possible. They will start making a new OS, called Doors, and Windows 10 will have indeed been the last version of Windows.

I think you are being a tad pedantic....

 

[AdMan]

I've got a handful of programs I use for one of my hobbies, and having each of them as a small tile in a single group makes it so much faster for me to get to them.

You know, I can actually see this catching on!

 

[quadraginta]

You know, I can actually see this catching on!

Me to.

This is, in essence, what Fences (a third party app from Stardock) lets you do with the icons on your desktop. A utility I've been very pleased with.

I'm gonna have to play with it.

Thanks KD and Adman,

 

[psionl0]

You know, I can actually see this catching on!

[qimg]http://i.imgur.com/yIQSydk.png[/qimg]

You can still have add that setup to your computer if you install DOSBOX.

 

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Happy as clam, and I recommend everyone I fix pc's for, to upgrade. I only had a few minor glitches the first couple of days due to various updates.

 

[xtifr]

It appears to be as easy to replace with Linux as any other version of Windows, and since that's all I ever ask of Windows, I guess I'd have to say I'm reasonably happy with it?

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

It appears to be as easy to replace with Linux as any other version of Windows, and since that's all I ever ask of Windows, I guess I'd have to say I'm reasonably happy with it?

You're reply has been erased as you don't like the same music I do

 

[El Greco]

BTW, this is the first Windows edition where UAC can't be completely deactivated, ie NEVER get UAC prompts, run everything as administrator by default and all programs working normally (including metro apps). This security thing is getting more and more ridiculous. You have to put up with it no matter what.

 

[Rrose Selavy]

BTW, this is the first Windows edition where UAC can't be completely deactivated, ie NEVER get UAC prompts, run everything as administrator by default and all programs working normally (including metro apps). This security thing is getting more and more ridiculous. You have to put up with it no matter what.

Are you sure? The same Win 7 settings are still there.
Or apparently there's a registry tweak.

http://winaero.com/blog/how-to-turn-off-and-disable-uac-in-windows-10/

 

[El Greco]

Are you sure? The same Win 7 settings are still there.
Or apparently there's a registry tweak.

http://winaero.com/blog/how-to-turn-off-and-disable-uac-in-windows-10/

Yeah, I've done all that and more. If you disable UAC with the registry hack and you try to run a tile app, you get the message "can't be opened using the Built-in Administrator account. Sign in with a different account and try again". Even though I'm not logged in as the built-in admin account but apparently with the uac disabled, that's what Windows thinks.

Furthermore, there are some keys in the registry that can't be modified even if you are admin and have taken ownership with full permissions. Some say that not even Chuck Norris can modify these keys.

 

[Damien Evans]

Yeah, I've done all that and more. If you disable UAC with the registry hack and you try to run a tile app, you get the message "can't be opened using the Built-in Administrator account. Sign in with a different account and try again". Even though I'm not logged in as the built-in admin account but apparently with the uac disabled, that's what Windows thinks.

Furthermore, there are some keys in the registry that can't be modified even if you are admin and have taken ownership with full permissions. Some say that not even Chuck Norris can modify these keys.

I bet Jens Voigt can.
http://www.jensvoigtfacts.com/

 

[Darat]

Sounds like MS is making the right call if you ask me.

 

[Rrose Selavy]

Yeah, I've done all that and more. If you disable UAC with the registry hack and you try to run a tile app, you get the message "can't be opened using the Built-in Administrator account. Sign in with a different account and try again". Even though I'm not logged in as the built-in admin account but apparently with the uac disabled, that's what Windows thinks.

Furthermore, there are some keys in the registry that can't be modified even if you are admin and have taken ownership with full permissions. Some say that not even Chuck Norris can modify these keys.

It works for me for installed or pinned to start as tiles programs but apparently Metro Apps, which I don't use , require UAC at at least level 3 setting, but have you tried this suggestion in Win 10?

http://www.bleepingtech.com/windows-8-fix-this-app-cant-open-for-built-in-administrator-account/