You may be Pyschic, not mentally ill.

MostlyDead said:
Stupid will getcha no matter what you believe in. GPS nav systems are another heading there. Unconventional beliefs not exactly at issue.
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I agree. The faith people place in the GPS Gods, is rather conventional these days.
 
Scorpion said:
I appreciate a skeptics forum will not believe me but I can assure you I had some strange experiences, all of which were explained by my etheric body being loose and my chakras miss aligned. But the only answer psychiatrists had was heavy medication, and the drugs in the 1970s were just knock out drops, not the targeted drugs they have today that balance the brain chemistry.
I write this information on the off chance that someone else will find it beneficial to know there is an explanation other than plain old insanity.
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There is good evidence that for some people non -pharmacological approaches to schizophrenia may be very effective. One can learn to live with the voices, and recognise what is real from what is delusion. Psychoanalytic approaches had been a failure, the pharmacological approach was effective but might have been too widely used and the adverse effects not recognised, a psychodynamic / behavioural approach is effective. Probably a mix of drug and talk therapies is best, with the balance being individual.

If a cognitive model involving chakras is effective then so be it. The important thing to recognise is this is a tool or mechanism to allow you to function, and not a description of the real world but of your internal world. The mistake would be to think that what worked for you is right for others, they may need different cognitive tools.
 
Scorpion said:
I was using the minor chakras to heal myself in the 1970s and I did not see Barbara Brennan's book until the 1980s. This book confirmed to me what I already knew from attending healing classes under Ursula Roberts in the 1970s at the spiritualist association in London. Ursula Roberts is now dead but her teachings can be seen on the Internet.
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And where did her knowledge come from?
 
Scorpion said:
I have heard it said the spirit world is similar to this world but the substance it is made of vibrates at a far higher frequency than that of the atoms of our universe. It can be said this universe is an illusion as I think I am right in saying all matter can be converted back into energy. We experience the world as a reality because if we try to punch a hole in a wall it seems to hurt, but firstly the pain is an illusion of electrical signals sent up the nervous system to the brain, and secondly we could punch a hole through the wall, or even walk through it if the nuclear forces were weaker. Atoms are mostly space with nothing in them.

I expect the same is true of any higher worlds which spiritualists call the spirit world. Those higher dimensions are probably also illusions. But I have heard it said the astral plane seems as real as Charing Cross.
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Your understanding of vibration and frequency and knowledge is totally ill informed and is astonishing if you were an electronic repair person. Perhaps some time with information that is verifiable by anyone would help you understand that your understanding of the world we live in is totally wrong.
 
Sweet vibrations!

I was thinking about your comment Darat. It appears that vibrations do indeed have much to do with most - if not all everyday activity...from the Big Bang on...
 
Scorpion said:
You could not possibly offend or upset me. I was treated as insane from 1969 onwards by my own family as well as psychiatrists. My family called me a fool when I started going to spiritualist churches in 1971. I started looking for alternatives after two years as a mental patient, when I was told I would have to stay on the medication for the rest of my life.
As far as I am concerned I found the answers in the occult and learned how to control my psychic energies. I eventually got off the medication and became an electronics repair man, which is an occupation requiring some mental discipline and knowledge of logic, and I worked under pressure.
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Has it occured to you that you believe all this specifically because your original diagnosis was accurate?

I have heard it said the spirit world is similar to this world but the substance it is made of vibrates at a far higher frequency than that of the atoms of our universe.
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Word salad.
 
Scorpion said:
She is presumably psychic herself. I was told from another source that there are minor chakras in the palms and the soles of the feet and the temples. But the first time I ever saw a diagram of them was In Barbara Brenan's book.
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Well, there's part of the problem, right there.

As gently as possible, no, she is not. No evidence that stood up to the least scrutiny has even been presented of such.
 
John Jones said:
How do you know?
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I make them myself. Everything does. I feel them as well. Everyone does It is intricate to movement, and we all know this universe is moving.

Why would we assume then that at a certain level in the overall structure, the vibrations are not happening?
 
Argumemnon said:
Has it occured to you that you believe all this specifically because your original diagnosis was accurate?
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My original diagnosis was correct, I had all the symptoms of schizophrenia. What was not accurate was the assumption by psychiatrists that all my experiences were hallucinations and my beliefs delusional. I found out in the occult that the feelings I had were caused by my etheric body being loose. My mental problems caused great stress, and this in turn damaged my etheric body. Psychiatry takes no account of such things and has no remedy, but I got spiritual healing and was able to get off medication and become an engineer.
Argumemnon said:
Word salad.
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Assume for a moment there is a spirit world and it is invisible to us. It must be made of something, and that might be particles that vibrate at a much higher frequency than physical atoms. There are many atomic particles known about in this universe that are invisible and pass through our bodies unnoticed. So there may be particles which vibrate at far higher frequency's which make up higher dimensions, which we also cannot see .
 
Darat said:
Your understanding of vibration and frequency and knowledge is totally ill informed and is astonishing if you were an electronic repair person. Perhaps some time with information that is verifiable by anyone would help you understand that your understanding of the world we live in is totally wrong.
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I understood enough of theory of electrons to qualify in electronics and microprocessor technology. That does not make me a nuclear physicist.

But atoms vibrate at high frequency's, don't they?
If the nuclear force that binds atoms were weaker we could walk through walls, couldn't we ?
All matter can be converted back into energy, can't it?
Atoms are largely empty space, aren't they?
There are invisible atomic particles passing through us all the time, aren't there?
Where am I wrong?
 
Scorpion said:
But atoms vibrate at high frequency's, don't they?
If the nuclear force that binds atoms were weaker we could walk through walls, couldn't we ?
All matter can be converted back into energy, can't it?
Atoms are largely empty space, aren't they?
There are invisible atomic particles passing through us all the time, aren't there?
Where am I wrong?
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You are not even wrong.

If the Nuclear force that binds atoms was weaker we would not exist.

The rest is so irrelevant it is not worth addressing.
 
Scorpion said:
My original diagnosis was correct, I had all the symptoms of schizophrenia. What was not accurate was the assumption by psychiatrists that all my experiences were hallucinations and my beliefs delusional.
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Hasn't it occured to you that the reason why you think all those things are true is BECAUSE you have a mental illness?

What's more likely? That the entire fabric of the universe is completely different than we've been able to surmise these last few millennia or that your perceptions are wrong?

Assume for a moment there is a spirit world and it is invisible to us.
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I've done that a long time ago. Done, and dismissed. If the supernatural exists, there would be evidence of it. Until such evidence is presented, count me out.

It must be made of something, and that might be particles that vibrate at a much higher frequency than physical atoms.
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Who cares what you imagine it could maybe be made of?
 
Argumemnon said:
Energy isn't a thing, for one.
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It appears that energy is attached to things and as such can be many things re those attachments.

Ordinarily, it is associated with the reasons for things and isn't able to be separated from things.

As well as this, energy also reacts to things - and in doing so transforms from one 'type' of energy to another 'type' of energy.

In short, it is both the ripple and the effect of the ripple, but not entirely.

Without 'things', energy would not exist - without energy, 'things' would not exist.

Therefore, energy is a 'thing' really indistinguishable from the things it creates and is affected/effected by.

It is a 'thing' by that default. It is many things, but all 'things' are related to one thing.
 
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