You may be Pyschic, not mentally ill.

Scorpion said:
There may be imbalance in my brain chemistry, and this caused emotional excess and nervous stress. But this in turn caused damage to my etheric body and my chakras. This caused negative psychic experiences, such as the feeling of fire flowing though the chakras. But psychiatrist usually take no account of such a possibility. All they can do is offer medication. But when I decided in 1971 I did not want to be a mental patient for the rest of my life and turned to spiritualism for help and healing I was given explanations that worked.
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Cool story, bro.
 
Scorpion said:
If the voices had nothing sensible to say why would I waste time listening to them. I certainly did not take any directives from them. The Yorkshire ripper did that and he was obviously not too bright.
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I was going on what you stated...
"I spent two years trying to work out the voices and at the end of it I decided they were idiots, therefore I was an idiot for listening to them."

So in the sense that you were trying to work out the voices you were hearing but found nothing of intelligent value. I think mybe you are being far too hard on yourself to deduce from that, that you were being an idiot for making the effort.

The sensible voices could be male or female and only spoke briefly, usually to give me advice. They did not identify themselves.
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Did you ever ask them to identify themselves?

One of the voices in my head was definitely female.
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Are the voices distinguishable in relation to being individual? For example, was the one voice which was female, always the same female voice? (likewise for the male ones).


I already did that on the thread about going to a medium party. I said a female voice told me I would win on the lottery one hour before the draw, on the only occasion I did win.
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I am not familiar with the thread - please give the link.

In the example you give here, I would say that this particular individual voice was offering you evidence of her existence and ability to give you truth regarding a future event.

The implications are interesting. Your ability in this is in being able to hear the voices.
When the predicted event eventuated, how did this make you feel in regard to the one female voice in your head? Have you developed any ongoing relationship with the female personality?

This discussion with you interests me greatly. I look at the internet as a kind of place where invisible individuals become 'voices in my head' although the voices are all 'sounding' like my own inner voice in my head...it is in how language is able to be communicated through writing and what is written then can be heard, (and visualized) and perhaps even listened to (acted on) depending on what is being said and how my bias might lean in relation to what is being said. (in relation to bias, I found it to be more the hindrance than the help and worked on ways to reduce it...mainly because it prevented me from hearing, let alone listening.)
 
Scorpion said:
The voices in my ears seem to try and seduce me into listening to them by saying things like, "you're not a schizophrenic you're a medium" but as soon as I start listening they revert to repetitive rubbish.
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That is an interesting thing. Have you ever been completely sure either way as to whether you are a 'medium' or a 'schizophrenic'?
More to that point, if you thought perhaps you were a medium, on a scale of 1-5, how convinced were you that this was the case?

The voices in my head usually limit themselves to a brief phrase that consists of information or positive advice. But I very rarely hear them.
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Have you ever invited them to speak in your head and established rules of conduct in relation to that invitation?
 
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Scorpion said:
There may be imbalance in my brain chemistry, and this caused emotional excess and nervous stress. But this in turn caused damage to my etheric body and my chakras. This caused negative psychic experiences, such as the feeling of fire flowing though the chakras. But psychiatrist usually take no account of such a possibility. All they can do is offer medication. But when I decided in 1971 I did not want to be a mental patient for the rest of my life and turned to spiritualism for help and healing I was given explanations that worked.
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This reminds me of an old guy we met outback some time ago. Short story, we noticed his eyesight was not so great.
When we asked him if he'd seen anyone about it, he replied that doctors could not do anything for him.
When we asked him when the last time he'd seen a doctor about his eyes, he replied,
1936.

Perhaps you should have a chat to someone if you are still hearing voices.
Medical knowledge and practice has moved on in the past 45 years.
 
Scorpion said:
I refer to such mediums as Ursula Roberts, Grace Cook, and Ivy Northage. All of whose lectures I attended in the 1970s when they were still alive.
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If they're now deceased, they should be giving far more informative and authoritative lectures. Heard anything from any of them?
 
Myriad said:
If they're now deceased, they should be giving far more informative and authoritative lectures. Heard anything from any of them?
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I no longer attend spiritualist churches, so I would not hear from them. But in any case they were purportedly only mediums, and it was the spirit guides that spoke through them that dispensed the wisdom. Those spirit guides would now have to find new mediums if they wanted to continue giving their message. The mediums themselves might not want to come back and give messages, as they in turn would have to find other mediums. They are probably enjoying a well earned rest in the spirit world.
 
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EHocking said:
Perhaps you should have a chat to someone if you are still hearing voices.
Medical knowledge and practice has moved on in the past 45 years.
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As far as I know the medical profession has yet to incorporate occult theology into its diagnosis. To them I am just a schizophrenic, and my opinions about there being a spirit world, and feeling my chakras, counts for nothing.
 
Navigator said:
That is an interesting thing. Have you ever been completely sure either way as to whether you are a 'medium' or a 'schizophrenic'?
More to that point, if you thought perhaps you were a medium, on a scale of 1-5, how convinced were you that this was the case?
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I think I can sometimes feel psychic energy and the presence of spirits, but I also have the chemical imbalance that causes schizophrenia. So I do hallucinate but I am relatively sure that some of what I experience is genuine psychic energy. 4/5

Navigator said:
Have you ever invited them to speak in your head and established rules of conduct in relation to that invitation?
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I can't remember doing that but the voices that make sense are a rare event.
As I said I decided mediumship was not for me because it is too disturbing, so most of my efforts have been to shut the voices out. Self healing by channeling psychic energy through my chakras.

I used to stand on grass in my bare feet and imagine energy flowing up through the chakras in the soles of the feet, then channeling that energy out through the palms of my hands where there are two other minor chakras. Then channeling it in through the chakras in the temples. I got considerable feelings of benefit from doing this, and could stop the voices in my ears.
 
Volcanologists have also failed to incorporate superstition into their diagnoses. As far as they are concerned all volcanos are caused by hot magma welling up through cracks in the earth's crust, the opinion of those who insist they are due to volcano gods counts for nothing.

Hearing voices is no longer considered automatic proof of schizophrenia, Scorpion. A surprising number of perfectly sane people experience the phenomenon at one time or another.

http://www.hearing-voices.org
 
Navigator said:
Did you ever ask them to identify themselves?
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No, the intelligent voices don't hang around for a discussion. They just drop a
one liner on me and leave.
Navigator said:
Are the voices distinguishable in relation to being individual? For example, was the one voice which was female, always the same female voice? (likewise for the male ones).
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The female voice that told me I would win the lottery only spoke to me twice.
First in the week before the lottery it said "help is coming from and unexpected source" and then, one hour before the lottery it said "you won"

Other times I have heard other voices, usually male.


Navigator said:
I am not familiar with the thread - please give the link.
In the example you give here, I would say that this particular individual voice was offering you evidence of her existence and ability to give you truth regarding a future event.

The implications are interesting. Your ability in this is in being able to hear the voices.
When the predicted event eventuated, how did this make you feel in regard to the one female voice in your head? Have you developed any ongoing relationship with the female personality?
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The thread is a little down the page and entitled ' going to a psychic medium party' There I recount the details of a voice telling me I had won the lottery. When it told me I would win I did not believe it but when I did win it was evidence to me that the spirit world were capable of talking to me and it was not likely to be a hallucination. The odds against winning 5 numbers are 55,000 to 1 but the odds against hearing a voice tell you, you would win on the only occasion that you did win must be astronomical. It also is evidence that the spirit world can see into the future.
 
Pixel42 said:
Volcanologists have also failed to incorporate superstition into their diagnoses. As far as they are concerned all volcanos are caused by hot magma welling up through cracks in the earth's crust, the opinion of those who insist they are due to volcano gods counts for nothing.

Hearing voices is no longer considered automatic proof of schizophrenia, Scorpion. A surprising number of perfectly sane people experience the phenomenon at one time or another.

http://www.hearing-voices.org
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Thanks for posting that about hearing voices. It's an important point.
 
I recall reading about some ongoing research on people who experience auditory hallucinations. Some cope with them quite well.... They seem to know perfectly well that they are hallucinations and essentially ignore them.
My wife used to occasionally "hear" her departed mother call her name. Just random neuronal firing.

However, a percentage of such people seem compelled to be directed by these hallucinations, or to obey them as orders. As in the "Son of Sam" killer who felt compelled to shoot people.
 
Scorpion said:
No, the intelligent voices don't hang around for a discussion. They just drop a
one liner on me and leave.

The female voice that told me I would win the lottery only spoke to me twice.
First in the week before the lottery it said "help is coming from and unexpected source" and then, one hour before the lottery it said "you won"

Other times I have heard other voices, usually male.




The thread is a little down the page and entitled ' going to a psychic medium party' There I recount the details of a voice telling me I had won the lottery. When it told me I would win I did not believe it but when I did win it was evidence to me that the spirit world were capable of talking to me and it was not likely to be a hallucination. The odds against winning 5 numbers are 55,000 to 1 but the odds against hearing a voice tell you, you would win on the only occasion that you did win must be astronomical. It also is evidence that the spirit world can see into the future.
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Right thanks for that. I scanned the thread and got the gist of it. You appear to have little knowledge regarding the voices you have heard and anything sensible and intelligent from that source is a rarity for you. On the other hand you seem to have formulated beliefs about what 'the spirit world' is, and this is obviously information you have picked up over the years from voices which have physical bodies and call themselves 'mediums.'

My interest in you and the voices you hear had to do with the possibility of seeing if it could be something we could work with together, but now that I have read the other thread I see that it is a rare thing you experience and the impression I get is that you are not overly keen on the voices due to a number of reasons, perhaps the main one being that they mostly have not made any sense to you.

Thank you for answering my questions.
 
Scorpion said:
I appreciate a skeptics forum will not believe me but I can assure you I had some strange experiences, all of which were explained by my etheric body being loose and my chakras miss aligned. But the only answer psychiatrists had was heavy medication, and the drugs in the 1970s were just knock out drops, not the targeted drugs they have today that balance the brain chemistry.
I write this information on the off chance that someone else will find it beneficial to know there is an explanation other than plain old insanity.
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And could not be explained by anything else?
 
Scorpion said:
I could feel the energy flowing through the chakras in all the main seven that are commonly known about by psychics. I also learned there are fourteen minor chakras that are not so commonly known about, and they are very important in healing and self healing. I found I could channel healing energy to myself through the palms of my hands and in through my temples where there are minor chakras. It took me years to discover there were minor chakras that could be used in this way. I finally saw a diagram of them in a book called ' Hands of light' by Barbara Ann Brenan.
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And where did her knowledge come from?
 
Scorpion said:
Anyone who hears voices then consults a psychiatrist can expect a diagnosis of schizophrenia.
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It sure beats being diagnosed with demon possession.

If a psychiatrist is enlightened enough to consider a person may be psychic instead they are a rare breed.
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A rare breed of idiot. There is no documented evidence for the existence of psychic power, and for a licensed doctor to reach such a conclusion would be irresponsible, harmful and possibly criminal.

The sensible voices could be male or female
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Did you ask them their prefered pronouns?

There may be imbalance in my brain chemistry
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Yeah, no kidding. This is why medecine is used: to restore the balance. Thinking that it's magic involved instead and skipping treatment will not help you.
 
Bikewer said:
I recall reading about some ongoing research on people who experience auditory hallucinations. Some cope with them quite well.... They seem to know perfectly well that they are hallucinations and essentially ignore them.
My wife used to occasionally "hear" her departed mother call her name. Just random neuronal firing.

However, a percentage of such people seem compelled to be directed by these hallucinations, or to obey them as orders. As in the "Son of Sam" killer who felt compelled to shoot people.
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Actual therapy (the stuff that works not the crap alternative stuff) often works by trying to help ill people to distinguish between dangerous and benign voices and instructions. Many learn to know when they are in a downwards cycle and can seek intervention.

Obviously anyone who begins to believe the voices are "psychic" isn't able to distinguish between reality and their illness so needs a lot of help and treatment.
 
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