YELLOW BAMBOO TEST!!!

[jmercer]

What's really, really stupid about that requirement is that if they ever succeed in finding a "qualified" challenger, some poor YB person is going to get the cr@p beat out of them. The guy in the video was clearly making an effort to not hurt these people while making it 100% clear that they were bogus.

Someone truly angry... or enraged... is going to do some harm. Idiocy, pure and simple. The jerk who created YB has done a major disservice to the gullible amongst us by having them believe they can now defend themselves from angry attackers.

I will give the YB people in that video credit for one thing, and one thing only. They stuck to their "art" and the "techniques" of their art even though they were obviously being humiliated.

I've seen bogus martial artists who - when faced with losing - switch from their bogus art to something that actually works, and then claim what they did was a "hidden" part of their art, etc. At least these people didn't try something like that.

 

[Hutch]

Noted. Now what should that mean to me?

Note sure how much you were joking, but BJJ is Brazilian Ju-Jitsu, a type of martial art that (from what i have seen of it) is mostly ground-type combat employing various joint and bone locks that can effectively lead to surrender (or broken bones). Google the name Royce Gracie, he's the name I've heard the most. He does some of those "NHB" tournaments and often whips on guys much larger than himself.

 

[Tricky]

Note how in the "rules" video, the YB guy says the attacker has to be angry.

Wanna bet that within YB someone is saying: "yeah but they weren't actually angry, they were just pretending to be angry for the purpose of the test, so it doesn't count"?

LOL. So YB won't work against a robber who is simply working his night job. "No offense, dude, but give me all your money or I will be forced to (unemotionally) beat the crap out of you."

Then again, I guess one way to prove the attacker was angry would be to have him actually beat the crap out of the YB guy. "Hey, it was in the agreed protocol."

 

[Phrost]

Note sure how much you were joking, but BJJ is Brazilian Ju-Jitsu, a type of martial art that (from what i have seen of it) is mostly ground-type combat employing various joint and bone locks that can effectively lead to surrender (or broken bones). Google the name Royce Gracie, he's the name I've heard the most. He does some of those "NHB" tournaments and often whips on guys much larger than himself.

Video highlight of Royce in the first two Ultimate Fighting Championships:

www.bullshido.com/videos/royce.wmv

At a skinny 180 lbs, he took on some monsters and dominated, using BJJ. The theory behind it is simple: take your opponent to the ground and establish positional dominance in order to avoid/negate striking. From there you are free to submit, choke, break bones, or even just rain down punches/knees/elbows/etc on your opponent.

His destruction of many recognized martial arts masters shattered the established (mis)understanding of the effectiveness of how most martial arts had been trained in this country since they became popular after WWII.

The other principle that makes BJJ training more effective than many martial arts is the fact that like Judo, almost all of its techniques can be practiced at full speed/strength/resistance on a regular basis without an excessive risk of injury. This prepares the BJJ fighter to deal with a situation more effectively. Instead of playing foot/hand tag for points, breaking boards, or any other such rubbish, the BJJ guy "fights" almost every time he goes in to class.

Plus, it's just a hell of a lot of fun.

 

[princhester]

Getting Angry

Scene: a beach in Florida. YB guy standing, ready. Martial arts guy standing 20 yards away ready to assist the JREF by charging the YB guy as a test. James Randi himself standing nearby, keeping an eye on things.

MA guy: "OK, I'm ready, make me angry."

YB: "You suck!"

MA guy: "mmm, nope, not angry yet"

YB: "Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!"

MA guy: "Aww c'mon, you can do better than that."

YB: "At college, your girlfriend was known as 'the town bike'"

MA guy: "Naah, she wasn't"

YB: "You're right, she was too ugly to $%@# and still is"

MA guy: "Look, umm, I think this a bit pathetic, I'm just not getting angry at all, really"

YB: "Hmmmm. OK. Uri Geller is an honest saint who can bend spoons with his mind!"

James Randi (head down, charging): "AAAARRRRRGGGGGGGH!

 

[Kimpatsu]

At one point in the video, the "attacker," the guy in black, comes right up into the camera and says something. But I couldn't understand it. Did anyone else catch what he said?

"They're losers".

 

[Moose]

princhester:

 

[sf108]

If YB is the most powerful martial arts in the world, where the no-touch theory is it's secret, why aren't they showing up at UFC?

 

[Kimpatsu]

If YB is the most powerful martial arts in the world, where the no-touch theory is it's secret, why aren't they showing up at UFC?

Yellow Bamboo isn't the most powerful, esoteric MA in the world; KIXA is!

 

[webfusion]

this dude is flying !!!

These XIXI people have figured out how to fly!

 

[Rainbow Snake]

Contrary to what Randi said in the latest Swift and Kramer in the Challenge posting, this was not an "official" test by the Australian Skeptics for the $110,000 Paranormal Prize.

The truth is actually better. A couple of martial-arts fans from Perth
got together and organised the test themselves.
As they said on the video,
"Such challenges are really over-rated. We're not representing our school or our Art - what we are representing is the force of common-sense."

The beach was in Western Australia rather than Bali.

Hmmm years since I've posted here.
Props to the qskeptics crew.

RS (No not that RS a different one)

 

[Vikram]

I personally found the little dog hilarious. The way it rushed in when the tackling began was priceless!

 

[dinosaur_knight]

Re: where was the bamboo stick?

Now, if this is the kind of thing that gets one $1-million, well, I happen to know an Israeli KRAV MAGA master, Guy Dar, who can really move so fast and has such lightening reflexes that he would actually be able to perform this maneuver perfectly and fake the attacker out of his shoes, causing a fall, without contact.[/B]

I've seen an aikidoist cause a fall by simply sidestepping an overextended strike. The trick would be convincing the judges that it's somehow "paranormal." If that qualifies, then I've got one: I can make small objects fly across the room with my hand.

 

[Placebo]

Uh guys, you might want to check this out : http://www.prweb.com/releases/2004/2/prweb106721.htm
Million Dollar Challenge Winner Proclaims James Randi Fraud ... submitted by A. Donovan !?

On 14 September 2003 Mr. Nyoman Serengen, the founder of Yellow Bamboo (with over 40,000 members) successfully slammed down, without touching, the Randi representative Mr. Joko Tri clearly demonstrating extraordinary paranormal ability. Once the demonstration was successfully carried out James Randi frantically scrambled to concoct a phony pretext not to pay

Once the Yellow Bamboo organization actually scientifically demonstrated paranormal ability Randi went into panic mode and was seen grasping at any straw available to induce his congregation not to realize he is a fraud.

I thought my exposure to some woo site might come in handy at times

Now, who is been 'naughty' here - Mr Donovan or the press?
Makes one angry doesn't it?

 

[Gr8wight]

Be aware that PRWeb is not a news service. It is simply a web site that will allow anyone to post anything they want, and call it a press release. Interesting reading:

former sleigh of hand con artist James Randi

There you have it! James Randi has been Santa Claus all this time.

 

[baliwesternman]

Contrary to what Randi said in the latest Swift and Kramer in the Challenge posting, this was not an "official" test by the Australian Skeptics for the $110,000 Paranormal Prize.

The truth is actually better. A couple of martial-arts fans from Perth
got together and organised the test themselves.
As they said on the video,
"Such challenges are really over-rated. We're not representing our school or our Art - what we are representing is the force of common-sense."

The beach was in Western Australia rather than Bali.

Hmmm years since I've posted here.
Props to the qskeptics crew.

RS (No not that RS a different one)

Actually you are right- Randi and Kramer *were* lying as usual when they claimed a "test" had been done.

But (with respect) what you say is not accurate either-

A Yellow Bamboo in Perth organised the test and invited Fraser
along.

It is also interesting to note- there are many tapes out there showing a successful knocking down but the only one people believe is the one where YB loses. Can you spell "Cognitive Dissonance"?

 

[baliwesternman]

Actually you are right- Randi and Kramer *were* lying as usual when they claimed a "test" had been done.

But (with respect) what you say is not accurate either-

A Yellow Bamboo in Perth organised the test and invited Fraser
along.

It is also interesting to note- there are many tapes out there showing a successful knocking down but the only one people believe is the one where YB loses. Can you spell "Cognitive Dissonance"?

I also forgot to mention that YB also invited Fraser to Bali to attack the founder of YB Nyoman Serengen, even offered a way to pay for it all- Fraser initially agreed but later backed out.

THe rationale for inviting him was this- One could say it did not work because the Perth YB practitioner was not prepared or whatever BUT if Fraser were to successfully attack the founder
then there could be no excuses.

Unfortunatly Fraser and Peter Delly have chickened out.

BWM

PS- Hi Kevin

 

[TheBoyPaj]

It is also interesting to note- there are many tapes out there showing a successful knocking down

But not under controlled conditions, where the attackers are not brainwashed YB customers and where you can actually SEE the event taking place.

but the only one people believe is the one where YB loses. Can you spell "Cognitive Dissonance"?

You don't understand. We like the videos of your people getting knocked on their ass because they are FUNNY.

By all means carry on with the tired excuses, though.

 

[baliwesternman]

But not under controlled conditions, where the attackers are not brainwashed YB customers and where you can actually SEE the event taking place.

You mean these videos? http://yellowbamboohk.com/yellowbamboo/YB_videoclips.html

I actually can see them quite well. But hey like I said because of cognitive dissonance- you will only believe what you see if it confirms your beliefs.
Do not let fact get in the way of what you believe cause you would lose your consciousness then

See yua Kevin

 

[Patricio Elicer]

It is also interesting to note- there are many tapes out there showing a successful knocking down but the only one people believe is the one where YB loses.

Yes, because it was done under controlled conditions. Be it an "official" or "unofficial" test, the important aspect is that the Australian skeptic was not knocked down.

As for the other videos, we can only tell for sure that those people fell to the ground, but it's not possible to tell the reason why. You say it's because of YB special powers. I say I don't believe you because the evidence isn't strong enough, there are mundane alternative explanations.