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Yellow Bamboo Challenge

petpower_2k

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Hey CFLarsen,

I live in Sweden, since you live in Denmark we maybe could meet and do a Yellow Bamboo test, to see if it is possible to defend against an attacker without physical touch.

Could you come to Sweden or should we come to Denmark?


best regards

Peter Semjonow
www.yellowbamboo.net
 
Wow. A first.

Someone challenges another forum goer w/o hesitation!

Petpower, are you going to be alone when you're doing this? or is there a whole group of yellowbamboo members just hiding in the shadows ready to knock a challenger down if they unwilingly fall down after you try to bribe them into doing so? haha...

I know where this is going.

If you know any members in Sydney, Australia, post here. I'm willing to participate.
 
petpower_2k said:
Hey CFLarsen,

I live in Sweden, since you live in Denmark we maybe could meet and do a Yellow Bamboo test, to see if it is possible to defend against an attacker without physical touch.

Could you come to Sweden or should we come to Denmark?


best regards

Peter Semjonow
www.yellowbamboo.net

If Claus accepts as an individual, or on behalf of the JREF if Randi approves, please make sure the test is actually done well.

The last one wasn't (dark conditions, people around everywhere, poor video, etc).
 
petpower_2k said:
Hey CFLarsen,

I live in Sweden, since you live in Denmark we maybe could meet and do a Yellow Bamboo test, to see if it is possible to defend against an attacker without physical touch. ...
Petpower_2k,

Could you describe for the rest of us what kind of setup and test you have in mind?
 
+1 to this idea.

Hands up everyone who wants to see CFLarsen bitch-slap a woo-woo.
 
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Atlas said:
Petpower_2k,

Could you describe for the rest of us what kind of setup and test you have in mind?

Kind of like this:

the attacker tries his best to really hurt the YB guy (me),

we make sure he gets upset and feel its ok to try to hurt the YB guy,
(he will only be allowed to hit in the chest and abdomen area),
and then we se if the yb guy can knock him down without touch.

___________________
Yellow Bamboo Sweden
 
How will you get Larsen upset? And why is this necessary? Why can't he just attempt to calmly hit you?

Is this why one of the YB's original stipulations was that the participant would have to become part of their clan, so they would have time to make the necessary psychological adjustments?
 
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petpower_2k said:
Kind of like this:

the attacker tries his best to really hurt the YB guy (me),

we make sure he gets upset and feel its ok to try to hurt the YB guy,
(he will only be allowed to hit in the chest and abdomen area),
and then we se if the yb guy can knock him down without touch.
Is it possible to knock down a non-attacker with Yellow Bamboo. That is, can a man standing alone be knocked to the ground by a practitioner of Yellow Bamboo who is standing 5 or 10 feet away. (I think this would be a preferred exhibition for JREF if captured on film.)

If not, does the attacker have to be running at the yb guy? Or can the two face each other within punching range?

The way you've described it it sounds like yb takes advantage when an attacker is enraged. Not all are. I'm sure Larsen will find this all interesting but he's a detail guy. He'll want to establish the parameters of required movement of the participants and distance between them and even what constitutes a knock down.

For instance, if a man is swinging a stick at my head and I duck and lose my footing and fall to my knees that would meet the no-touch definition but only because I would have been harmed if I had not ducked.

Can you be any more specific? Is an attack necessary or can you do a no-touch knockdown on any individual (perhaps blindfolded) at some distance from you?
 
Assuming that we can get legal absolution from the YB participants and there's an interest in trying this in New York, I'll be willing to help out.

However, I want to make sure I can't get sued when I hit them.
 
petpower_2k said:
Hey CFLarsen,
I live in Sweden, since you live in Denmark we maybe could meet and do a Yellow Bamboo test, to see if it is possible to defend against an attacker without physical touch.
Could you come to Sweden or should we come to Denmark?
best regards
Peter Semjonow
www.yellowbamboo.net
Claus is in Las Vegas and apparently not online. I think I saw Derren Brown do a similar thing on TV, and I didn't figure out how, so we'll probably have to consult one of our professional magicians for advice.
In the meantime: Could you come up with a more precise description of the test situation than this?
Kind of like this:
the attacker tries his best to really hurt the YB guy (me),
we make sure he gets upset and feel its ok to try to hurt the YB guy, (he will only be allowed to hit in the chest and abdomen area), and then we se if the yb guy can knock him down without touch.
"Hurt" him how exactly? Why would it be necessary for him to be both "upset" and "feel it's ok to try to hurt the YB guy", an apparent contradiction in terms: It would probably be easier for him to try to 'hurt' you if he knew that you wouldn't be (in any way seriously) hurt! (Or is that what is implied with "only ... in the chest and abdomen area"?)
Is there no way to perform this test without anybody trying to hurt anybody? Say, trying to push over the yb guy or something like that? (By the way, we have bigger and stronger guys than Claus if that is relevant for a test situation.)
 
Good god, what use is a martial art that only works if the attacker is upset? That's about as useful as kong jing, where it only works on people "trained" to be sensitive to it.
 
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dann said:
Claus is in Las Vegas and apparently not online. I think I saw Derren Brown do a similar thing on TV, and I didn't figure out how, so we'll probably have to consult one of our professional magicians for advice.
In the meantime: Could you come up with a more precise description of the test situation than this?

"Hurt" him how exactly? Why would it be necessary for him to be both "upset" and "feel it's ok to try to hurt the YB guy", an apparent contradiction in terms: It would probably be easier for him to try to 'hurt' you if he knew that you wouldn't be (in any way seriously) hurt! (Or is that what is implied with "only ... in the chest and abdomen area"?)
Is there no way to perform this test without anybody trying to hurt anybody? Say, trying to push over the yb guy or something like that? (By the way, we have bigger and stronger guys than Claus if that is relevant for a test situation.)


the attacker has to have real intention to hurt,
for example:

he keeps punching me and if he faints or falls down I win, if I cant take any more punches and give up then he wins.

with other words: he keeps kicking my ass until I give up.
or he falls down unconcious when trying to hit me, and I win.
 
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petpower_2k said:
with other words: he keeps kicking my ass until I give up.
or he falls down unconcious when trying to hit me, and I win.
So what you're saying is that you think you're a better fighter than Claus?

What's supernatural about that?
 
petpower_2k said:
the attacker has to have real intention to hurt,
for example:

he keeps punching me and if he faints or falls down I win, if I cant take any more punches and give up then he wins.

with other words: he keeps kicking my ass until I give up.
or he falls down unconcious when trying to hit me, and I win.
This sounds like Frazier not answering the bell when Ali tired him out using the Ropa-Dope and letting Frazier punch himself out. One thing about Ali - He could take a punch.

You sound like you have the same supernatural power that Mohammed Ali had.

Is it any bigger than that? Is it possible that an attacker could use a baseball bat or brass knuckles? What I'm asking is if there is anything beyond endurance and, pardon the expression, masochism, that you you employ? A mental force shield or a telepathic disrupter command that disables the opponent? - that kind of thing. Or are you inviting Larsen to a game of dodge punch, where he tries to punch you in the chest and you try to dodge his punches until he's tired?

I'm asking because I was under the impression that Yellow Bamboo could incapacitate an attacker without touching. It sounds like if your attacker hits you that's touching. Maybe you could explain Yellow Bamboo principles a little more, I obviously have a misunderstanding.
 
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petpower_2k said:
if I cant take any more punches and give up then he wins.
Isn't the idea that the attacker can NOT punch you at all? I tought the idea was that the attacker was disabled before contact.

How about this for a protocol:

Closed room. YBGuy ("petpower_2k") and an 'attacker' are only ones present, with some video cameras. YBGuy is searched for no electrical devices. YBGuy and Attacker stand in center of room about 15 feet apart. Attacker convinces himself to want to attack YBGuy. When he has done so, Attacker announces "I will hit him." Attacker then marches forward (not sprints or runs) and hits YBGuy in the chest with his fist. Test is successful if YBGuy is stationary and Attacker fails to make any contact with YBGuy.

Any problem with that?
 

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