Yellow Bamboo Challenge

[Hellbound]

You know, there's a few interesting points here, but not about a protocol, so this is a slight derail (ignore if desired).

Okay, so the attacker must be full of hate for the technique to work. How sueful is this, really? Do you think a mugger is full of hate towards you, or does he just see beating you over the head as the quickest, easiest path to your wallet? I mean, there aren't too many situations where you're going to be able to use this, it seems.

Second, if the attacker has to be full of hate, how the heck do you practice this? Are your dojos little havens of aggrssion and malice? Does everyone there hate each other? Do all the students that get knocked down in these demonstrations hate their master (this could acually be feasible, when they consider the amountof money they've spent compared to what they've actually learned to do)? I mean, does everyone in a YB dojo hate everyone else? They must, for this to work at all in training.

I'm sorry, I don't buy it. It's bull<expletive deleted>.

 

[MRC_Hans]

What I believe, and want to test is:
I can knock down a person that is full of hate and agression towards me.

when I practiced kung fu before I noticed that people can hit me quite hard, without having the intention to hurt me and that we called sparring, the teacher said: kick and punch, but only for practice not to hurt.

I would be happy if the attacker whoever it is in this test would afterwards be able to say: I did everything to knock him down, I really wanted to hurt him.

Folks can't you see where this is going? If he fails, he'll just say: "Well he wasn't full of hate, he was just playing." And he is already asking for donations .

And of course, the intenr to hurt bit ensures him that the JREF is going to refuse, so he can say they don't dare test him.

Petpower, you are full of ◊◊◊◊. You are a fraud.

Hans

 

[thaiboxerken]

I guess the yellow bamboo people are defenseless against cold-blooded muggers. It's too bad i don't live in Sweden, so i could kick that guy and show him that it does not take any "hate in the heart" to do it.

 

[Ed]

But since he's in Europe wouldn't it be easier to just go to a British soccer game and openly root for a team while sitting in the section rooting for the opposing team? There should be no dispute after that failed test as to whether or not hate or a desire to hurt was involved.

Missed his location. Yes, Rugby or Soccer hooligans would do nicely. Reminf me to tell you my funny Rugby Hooligan story sometime.

 

[scratchy]

It's too bad i don't live in Sweden, so i could kick that guy and show him that it does not take any "hate in the heart" to do it.

Well, i do, so we're ganging up huligans in Stockholm who's eager to deliver some smacking. He has promised a new test, and i think its going to be crowded this time....

I´ll keep you all informed.

 

[Zep]

I still reckon a nice straight karate punch to the solar plexus will resolve the situation!

A full-blooded front kick would be too dangerous, of course.

 

[Ravenwood]

I'm curious to see if YB has someone who can (or is willing to try) to knock down someone 10 meters away firing a gun at them, as petpower 2K claims. I went to the range today to test my theory, & with a pre-ban 15 round mag & firing as fast as I could at a standard IPSC target 25 meters away, I was able to put all of the simunition rounds into a 4" circle. If this guy claims he could knock me down or deflect them away from hitting him, I say lets try it out...I'll even loan him my face shield & throat protector If you guys thought those other YB videos were funny, just imagine watching one of them getting lit up by 15 really nasty powder propelled "paintbullets"...(I have been hit by them & they hurt a hundred times more worse than paintballs) This claim has got to rank up there with the moron who wanted to be gassed with Zyklon B...

 

[Dragon]

Missed his location. Yes, Rugby or Soccer hooligans would do nicely. Reminf me to tell you my funny Rugby Hooligan story sometime.

Rugby hooligan?? - do you have any evidence that such a thing exists? I thought you had some understanding of British cultural matters, Ed.

What I would like to see is a YB practitioner facing a Rugby prop forward - never mind a linebacker with all that girlie padding. No punching required, just a nice "friendly" rugby tackle.

 

[MRC_Hans]

Heheh, I see a new "sport" to replace dwarf throwing; the more PC: "Beat the crap out of a Yello Bamboozle supporter" .

Hans

 

[Zep]

Zep, you're my favorite Aussie! Even though we disagree on a lot of things.

I must have missed this - thanks! And I don't think we disagree TOO much...!

 

[Zep]

What I would like to see is a YB practitioner facing a Rugby prop forward - never mind a linebacker with all that girlie padding. No punching required, just a nice "friendly" rugby tackle.

Oh no - "friendly" is not how the YB want it. This attack has got to be "full of hatred", so I suggest one of those bone-rattling no-step-backwards tiny-halfback-meets-prop-forward-front-on type of rugby tackles. WHUMP!

 

[Flo]

What I believe, and want to test is:
I can knock down a person that is full of hate and agression towards me.

when I practiced kung fu before I noticed that people can hit me quite hard, without having the intention to hurt me and that we called sparring, the teacher said: kick and punch, but only for practice not to hurt.

I would be happy if the attacker whoever it is in this test would afterwards be able to say: I did everything to knock him down, I really wanted to hurt him.

I call severely deluded. With all these woowoos claiming supernatural powers in combat, you really have to wonder why martial artists still have to actually engage in actual physical training, when all you have to do to win battles is to concentrate and stop even the most rabid attackers from afar

I also wonder (well, not really) why instead of issuing mostly empty challenges to strangers on internet forums, they don't just practice what real martial artists who established valid disciplines like karate or judo did: "dojo-crashing" or in other words, visit dojos and training centers of other disciplines (I suggest judo, mainstream full-contact karate, boxing, K1, Kendo) and claim you can lick anyone who dares to attack you. That way, you'll get all the animosity and intensity of attack you desire. You also get a full dose of reality ...

Don't worry, most dojos in Europe are required to have someone trained in first help ...

 

[MRC_Hans]

Yeah, or use a modified version of MRC_Hans' Solopsism Test [tm]:

1) Go to busy downtown corner of large city.

2) Wait for large, aggressive-looking male to come by.

3) Walk up behind him and direct a healthy kick at the lower rear portion of his body.

4) When he turns, say: "That's because your mother's so ugly!".

5) Use your Yello Bamboozle powers to avert attack.


Hans

 

[dann]

2) Wait for large, aggressive-looking male to come by.
3) Walk up behind him and direct a healthy kick at the lower rear portion of his body.
4) When he turns, say: "That's because your mother's so ugly!"

Please, Hans, do not persuade people to harass innocent bystanders and their equally innocent mothers! It's probably illegal too: 'requesting people to act violently' or something.

 

[Ashles]

Please, Hans, do not persuade people to harass innocent bystanders and their equally innocent mothers! It's probably illegal too: 'requesting people to act violently' or something.

Normally I'd agree, but does this still apply to someone who is actively encouraging people to donate money so a complete stranger can be flown in from another country with the express purpose of driving them into such a rage that they wll run at him with the express intent of physically attacking him repeatedly until he falls over?

Surely in this instance it's more of a guideline than a rule.

 

[baliwesternman]

Hey Petpower,

Did Larsen accept your challenge?

Details?

I also heard on 30 january you are doing a public demo, will youi have media there to record it IE reporters?

Baliw Western Man

 

[IllegalArgument]

Argh, I saw a video somewhere showing a yellowbamboo person getting leveled durning one of these trials... but where!!! It's out there somewhere.

 

[dann]

Wasn't it this one? http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=51010

 

[CFLarsen]

Hey Petpower,

Did Larsen accept your challenge?

Details?

I also heard on 30 january you are doing a public demo, will youi have media there to record it IE reporters?

Baliw Western Man

I have emailed with Peter, and the ball is in his court. He is probably away for the weekend.

 

[petpower_2k]

I have emailed with Peter, and the ball is in his court. He is probably away for the weekend.

this is the latest email I sent in reply to CFLarsens mail.
sent 01-19:

If a test occurs I will wear protection.

Yes what I mean by repel is that the attacker will not be able to hit me (or the protection) at all.

I have tested before and know it works but I haven’t tested with a sceptic.

January 30 I am conducting a knocking down test in Stockholm, Sweden with several martial artists from the Swedish martial arts forum (www.kampsport.se/forum)

Anyone who wished to try attacking can come. We will have several video cameras recording it.

This will be the second knocking down test we do with the Swedish martial arts forum people.

In the first test (which you can see here: www.yellowbamboo.net/testet) we let the forum moderator “monkeyBoy” attack me and Elisabette,

We were unable to knock him down, we asked him to really try to hurt us and punch with all his strength, but he said he could not do that with the fear that we might get hurt. Now he has changed his mind and promised us he would cause us harm without problem, so we will see the 30th if we can knock him down or not.

Peter

-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
Från: Claus Larsen [mailto:editor@skepticreport.com]
Skickat: den 19 januari 2005 10:55
Till: Peter Semjonow
Ämne: Re: SV: Yellow Bamboo test

Hello,

First, I would like to stress that it is completely out of the question that any harm can come to you in any way. If you are being hit, you have to wear protection.

So, if I - or someone else - stand in front of you and hits your (protected) stomach, I will not be able to hit you at all? Is that what "repel" means?

Have you been tested before, so you know it works?

/Claus