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Ye likes Hitler

So what about conservatorships? Is there just no one trying to get one for him that has the connection needed or are those only for women?
 
tyr_13 said:
So what about conservatorships? Is there just no one trying to get one for him that has the connection needed or are those only for women?
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He’s eccentric, not hysterical.

(That’s a long way to say: yes.)
 
bruto said:
I think you are giving him too much credit, even for his ignorance or his obstinate refusal to become less ignorant before he says stupid things. But I suspect Ye does know, or thinks he knows, who Hitler was, and is more in accord with his ideas than a decent person should be - enough, it seems, to be ready to deny what he ought to know better, as fake news and Jewish lies. It's inexcusable idiocy any way you slice it I think, and in a rational world I think everyone who hears him say anything at all should just tell him to shut the **** up.
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I wonder why he's getting any attention at all. He's just a singer, for crying out loud. No one of any real importance. Why is the media even covering this disgusting man anymore?
 
Stacyhs said:
I wonder why he's getting any attention at all. He's just a singer, for crying out loud. No one of any real importance. Why is the media even covering this disgusting man anymore?
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For the same reason they cover what actors or sports people say. A big proportion of the general public fawn over these people or take enjoyment in their downfalls. Reporting their utterances drives traffic.
 
Stacyhs said:
I wonder why he's getting any attention at all. He's just a singer, for crying out loud. No one of any real importance. Why is the media even covering this disgusting man anymore?
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He's famous and trying to run for president. That shouldn't mean anything but am equally unqualified moron with serial bankruptcies did get elected.
 
Doubt said:
He's famous and trying to run for president. That shouldn't mean anything but am equally unqualified moron with serial bankruptcies did get elected.
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A Trump/West Republican ticket for the next election? <shudder!>
 
Kanye suffers from the sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament.
 
Stacyhs said:
I wonder why he's getting any attention at all. He's just a singer, for crying out loud. No one of any real importance. Why is the media even covering this disgusting man anymore?
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When one of the most famous people on Earth goes full neo-Nazi, it's going to get attention. Of course.
 
Stacyhs said:
I wonder why he's getting any attention at all. He's just a singer, for crying out loud. No one of any real importance. Why is the media even covering this disgusting man anymore?
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It's circular. Of course what he says should be ignored and dismissed from the start, but it isn't, so what else can someone do when a famous Nazi-loving fool runs for president and gets front page press? It's one thing to say "don't feed the trolls," but it's hard to ignore them when they're marching down your street.

I mean he wouldn't be the first poorly qualified entertainer to become president. He wouldn't even be the second!
 
Ian Osborne said:
A Trump/West Republican ticket for the next election? <shudder!>
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About a week ago West told Trump he wanted Trump to be his VP. It didn't go over well. No narcissist wants to play second fiddle.
 
Stacyhs said:
I wonder why he's getting any attention at all. He's just a singer, for crying out loud. No one of any real importance. Why is the media even covering this disgusting man anymore?
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I could dispute the "singer" part of that.
 
Just went down the proverbial internet rabbit hole on this. I don't go seeking news about the doings and sayings of this very troubled man, but it is splashed all over the Internet right now.

Started with this recent column by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.

And then the drama really hit the fan: Ye’s political advisor (and recent intern for Marjorie Taylor Greene) Milo Yiannopoulos claimed that bringing Fuentes to the dinner was his way to publicly humiliate Trump because he had grown disillusioned with him. Fuentes, now also a member of Ye’s campaign, refuted that claim: “My intention was not to hurt Trump by attending the dinner, that is fake news. I love Donald Trump.” Trump’s alleged response was, “He tried to **** me. He’s crazy. He can’t beat me.” Moe, Larry, and Curly would probably look at this dinner, shake their heads and say, “Too over the top.”
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Followed that first link to this story:
Nick Fuentes Contradicts Kanye Campaign Boss Over Trump Dinner (Daily Beast)

White nationalist Nick Fuentes tossed cold water on Milo Yiannopoulos’ claim that the now-infamous meeting between Donald Trump and Kanye West was intended to kneecap the former president. NBC News reported on Tuesday—citing the extremely unreliable Fuentes and Yiannopoulos, among others—that the dinner was a troll attempt to leave Trump politically wounded. “Ye’s political adviser Milo Yiannopoulos has grown disillusioned with Trump & said he was the ‘architect’ of the dinner trap. He said he knew the meeting would leak, & he dispatched Fuentes there ‘just to make Trump’s life miserable,’” NBC reporter Marc Caputo wrote. But Fuentes disagreed and contradicted Yiannopoulos following the story. “My intention was not to hurt Trump by attending the dinner, that is fake news. I love Donald Trump,” Fuentes responded on Telegram before taking aim at fellow West campaign associate Karen Giorno, who was also at the Trump and West dinner.
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This story contained a link to another one:
Racist YouTuber Joins Kanye West’s Campaign
A racist YouTuber—who achieved internet infamy by urging pedestrians to say the N-word—has joined the ranks of Kanye West’s expanding, informal 2024 presidential campaign.

Nico Kenn De Balinthazy, better known as “Sneako,” said on Monday night that he’s taking a hiatus from live-streaming to focus on his new role with the antisemitic rapper.
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Just another attention-seeker.

Then, there was another link to a story that Kanye "stormed out of an interview" with Tim Pool because Pool didn't want to indulge his Hitler praise. Apparently Fuentes was also present for this interview.

Kanye West Storms Out of Interview After Tim Pool Lightly Defends Jews
During that 20-minute stretch, West offered a sprawling, aggrieved commentary railing against those he believes had harmed him, including but not limited to: a designer at Adidas who Ye is convinced was a CIA and somehow also a “Zionist” plant; Jamie Dimon; Hollywood executives; the Gap; his former trainer and also, in Ye’s mind a Canadian deep-state agent; and, of course, the fictional Jewish cabal in charge of both banking and media. “It was like American History X, like my head was on the side of the curb, and the exact people that I called out kick my head,” said Ye. The rapper also appeared to back Brooklyn Nets star Kyrie Irving, who similarly posted antisemitic material, and talked about the true “bloodlines” of Black people.

“Rahm Emanuel was right next to Obama, and then Jared Kushner was right next to Trump,” Ye added, ending with a “da-da!” musical flourish to punctuate his antisemitic talking point about Jews being puppet masters.

During a brief pause in his near-monologue, Pool told Ye, “I think they’ve been extremely unfair to you.” When asked by Ye to clarify who he meant by “they,” Pool replied: “The corporate press.” That didn’t satisfy Ye. “Who is ‘they,’ though?” he shot back. As Pool stammered, one of the evening’s other guests chimed in: Nick Fuentes, the 23-year-old white nationalist and Holocaust denier, who had taken on an undefined role in Ye’s largely theoretical 2024 presidential campaign. “It is them, though, isn’t it?” Fuentes said, again referring to Jewish people.

Evidently, because Pool refused to play into one of the oldest antisemitic tropes around, Ye considered it a bridge too far. Before Pool could get another word in edgewise, West rose from out of his chair and silently marched out of the studio.
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Oh, and for laughs, Newsweek did a fact check on whether Hitler invented "highways and microphones" (of course not). Although the Autobahn was built in the 1930s, Hitler didn't "invent" it any more than Al Gore invented the Internet. And there doesn't seem to be any basis at all for the idea that he invented the microphone. (He used microphones, of course, but that's not the same as inventing them.)

Nazi aesthetics sold Kanye West on everything else about Hitler (Forward)

Well before Kanye West publicly praised Hitler (though long after he allegedly did it in private), he was seen out on the town in what looked like a cartoon version of Nazi jackboots.

Ye purports to be an aesthete. He launched a fashion line that included insanely expensive plain white T-shirts and shoes that look like something out of a David Cronenberg film.
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“He had a really cool outfit and stuff, and he was a really good architect,” West, who legally changed his name to Ye, told Jones.

“So you’re in love with the look of it?” Jones asked.
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And of course Hitler wasn't an architect either. He knew an architect, Albert Speer, but wasn't himself one. I guess that's how West himself thinks of things though. He isn't truly a fashion designer either. Others designed his fashion products, he merely approved or rejected the proposed designs.
Ye didn’t answer directly. Instead, and somehow this is being glossed over, he replied, “And he didn’t kill 6 million Jews, that’s just, like, factually incorrect.”
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So yes, he just explicitly denied the holocaust in the Alex Jones interview. He doesn't merely associate with Holocaust deniers, he is one.
 
Puppycow said:
So yes, he just explicitly denied the holocaust in the Alex Jones interview. He doesn't merely associate with Holocaust deniers, he is one.
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I disagree with that. He didn't deny the Holocaust, just the raw numbers. I don't think that makes him a denier that horrible atrocity occurred. A lot of people question the numbers.

I don't see Kanye as having evil intent; I see him as relatively ignorant and insane.
 
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