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WTC Dust said:
Does it have debris bouncing off the south face of WTC 2 at the moment of supposed impact?

Does it show evidence of the wake that follows any large aircraft?

If yes, please tell me the times.
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00:05. Debris & flames flying away from the face at the point of impact.

Careful with those goal post now.
 
WTC Dust said:
At what point in the video do we get to see plane debris bouncing off the south face of WTC 2?

And at what point in the video do we get to see evidence of the wake that would have followed any airplane, if one had flown nearby the WTC?
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We see the planes penetrating the building. We watch it happen. Now that you know what happened you need to change your hypothesis. Also now that you know it happened further insistence that planes did not crash into the WTC are correctly identified as lies. You have been informed of your error and you knowingly present false information. This is the definition of a lie.

For the record we do see material flying away from the building at impact.
 
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WTC Dust said:
Do you realize what you're saying? That a column of air is going to stop on a dime?

Besides, you're saying the plane didn't stop until it got to the interior of the building, so it would have gone at least that far even if you were right, which you are not.
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A plane does not "drag behind it a column of air", In Its wake are the spiral vortices formed at its wing tips from the Bernoulli principle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF54SvC5ZAs
 
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WTC Dust said:
Oh, poo. Do you really think I'm desecrating the names of the victims?

I think I'm helping the survivors. They breathed in a lot of the dust, and
up until now, this dust has been mischaracterized.

I think they deserve at least one person "on the case".
And I suffered, too. Don't forget I am a person, too.

You're convinced of the official story, fine, but what I also think you are convinced about is that anyone who would dare to question the story is morally bankrupt in some way, and I assure you that I'm not.

I'm a pink-haired biology researcher who got caught up in 9/11.
It was an accident. I smelled and saw and tasted the damaged World Trade Center, and I knew right away that what I was observing was not an ordinary fire. It had an almost unbelievable smell and character to it. Nobody was explaining this properly, so I had to continue to search.

You don't read me posting in other conspiracy threads because I'm not a conspiracy theorist. You must note that I haven't revealed to you who I think did the deed. I'm only talking about what was done.

The buildings were turned into a rather dusty foam. Parts of the buildings remained behind, strangely damaged.
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1. NO YOU ARE NOT HELPING THE SURVIVORS! My brother-in-law is an EMT, he was there helping the injured when the planes hit and frantically searching for survivors for days after. THAT is helping, not your sick little delusions.

2. You keep going on about the smell and fumes. I know exactly what you're talking about but unlike you I know burning collapsed skyscrapers (hit by planes and with hundreds of people dying inside them)aren't going to smell like anything we normaly come across.

3. Yes, you ARE a conspiracy theorist. You reject the fact that planes crashed so unless you believe Al Qaeda faked plane attacks and nuked the buildings, you are a kooky truther.

4. "Parts of the buildings remained behind, strangely damaged" Um yes that would be the nearly 200,000 tons of steel hit by airliners!
 
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WTC Dust said:
If the "second plane" had merely flown close to the WTC 1 fuming, those fumes would have been whipped around.
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Are you sure you're from NYC? You don't seem to be aware of the geometry and the distances involved here. The plane hit WTC2 on the southeast corner. WTC1 was northwest of WTC2. That means WTC2 was between the plane and WTC1. So, 400+ feet and one of the largest buildings in the world were between the plane and WTC1, and you think it's wake should have reached that smoke?
 
phunk said:
Are you sure you're from NYC? You don't seem to be aware of the geometry and the distances involved here. The plane hit WTC2 on the southeast corner. WTC1 was northwest of WTC2. That means WTC2 was between the plane and WTC1. So, 400+ feet and one of the largest buildings in the world were between the plane and WTC1, and you think it's wake should have reached that smoke?
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I'm not entirely sure she's from this planet nevermind NYC. I think this woman really has taken first place among all the looney tunes who post on the forum, thats one hell of a tall order but I think she's managed it.
 
At the moment of impact? Doesn't count if the bounce-back happens at any other time. Physics doesn't wait for a while and then act.

Redtail said:
00:05. Debris & flames flying away from the face at the point of impact.

Careful with those goal post now.
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Penetrate is right. What looks like a plane penetrates the building.
It doesn't crash into the south face of WTC 2. If you say there's some plane debris, take a screen shot, circle it, and post it to this forum. Let's all make sure we are talking about the same thing.

Craig4 said:
We see the planes penetrating the building. We watch it happen. Now that you know what happened you need to change your hypothesis. Also now that you know it happened further insistence that planes did not crash into the WTC are correctly identified as lies. You have been informed of your error and you knowingly present false information. This is the definition of a lie.

For the record we do see material flying away from the building at impact.
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The hijacking story is fake. No hijackings took place on 9/11.

Even if I'm wrong about this, and I'm willing to admit the possibility,
air plane crashes don't do what was done on 9/11. They never do.

When a plane crashes into something, you are left with the something
and a plane. A plane is always there after a plane crash, but you want me
to believe that we didn't find and reconstruct any of the four planes, but that they really, really existed?

Delusions.

You're the one who wants to talk about planes, not me. I'm focused on
finding out what destroyed the World Trade Center.



Dash80 said:
1. NO YOU ARE NOT HELPING THE SURVIVORS! My brother-in-law is an EMT, he was there helping the injured when the planes hit and frantically searching for survivors for days after. THAT is helping, not your sick little delusions.

2. You keep going on about the smell and fumes. I know exactly what you're talking about but unlike you I know burning collapsed skyscrapers (hit by planes and with hundreds of people dying inside them)aren't going to smell like anything we normaly come across.

3. Yes, you ARE a conspiracy theorist. You reject the fact that planes crashed so unless you believe Al Qaeda faked plane attacks and nuked the buildings, you are a kooky truther.

4. "Parts of the buildings remained behind, strangely damaged" Um yes that would be the nearly 200,000 tons of steel hit by airliners!
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There's nothing magical about the wake of an airplane.

When you have a flying airplane, you have a wake. Simple enough.
This wake is not much more than moving air.

Light up a joint. Watch the smoke rise. Then blow into the smoke as
it rises. You'd expect to see some evidence of a wake in the fumes coming
from WTC 1 and at least the part of the explosion that came out of the south face of WTC 2, but you don't.

No wake? No plane.



phunk said:
Are you sure you're from NYC? You don't seem to be aware of the geometry and the distances involved here. The plane hit WTC2 on the southeast corner. WTC1 was northwest of WTC2. That means WTC2 was between the plane and WTC1. So, 400+ feet and one of the largest buildings in the world were between the plane and WTC1, and you think it's wake should have reached that smoke?
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WTC Dust said:
Penetrate is right. What looks like a plane penetrates the building.
It doesn't crash into the south face of WTC 2. If you say there's some plane debris, take a screen shot, circle it, and post it to this forum. Let's all make sure we are talking about the same thing.
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Everyone else is talking about the planes that crashed into the WTC. What you're talking about is not entirely clear.
 
I'm just curious. Why do you feel you need to have a special understanding of the events of 9/11. There's not much point in discussing the no plane idea, it being demonstrably false. I'm more interested in how you got to the point where this made sense to you.
 
30 years of preparation and 10 years of constant effort.

Craig4 said:
I'm just curious. Why do you feel you need to have a special understanding of the events of 9/11. There's not much point in discussing the no plane idea, it being demonstrably false. I'm more interested in how you got to the point where this made sense to you.
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