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Wow, UK has lost freedom of speech

Hercules56 said:
Clear violation of the 1st Amendment.
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Yet again, why are you bolting Merkinainian things on to a discussion about the UK?

This is very confusing: you started a thread on the topic of free speech over here, thenkeep throwing in stuff about your Constitution and side walks and a heap of other things of absolutely NO RELEVANCE.

Go talk about Merkinanian things in a thread about Mekinania, please?
 
Ziggurat said:
And in the UK, you can't even pray silently in that area. Adam Smith-Connor was not harassing anyone, he was not traumatizing anyone, he was not screaming anything at all. In fact, as far as I can tell, no one even complained about him.

But he was still arrested, tried, and convicted. Because you're not allowed to pray silently in certain places. Not even, it should be noted, on your own property, if it's within 150 meters of an abortion clinic.
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Clearly Freedom of Speech means a lot less in the UK than America.
 
Carrot Flower King said:
Yet again, why are you bolting Merkinainian things on to a discussion about the UK?

This is very confusing: you started a thread on the topic of free speech over here, thenkeep throwing in stuff about your Constitution and side walks and a heap of other things of absolutely NO RELEVANCE.

Go talk about Merkinanian things in a thread about Mekinania, please?
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Kool.
 
Hercules56 said:
Clearly Freedom of Speech means a lot less in the UK than America.
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If that is your definition of freedom of speech (why capitalise it?), then you can keep it to yourself and stop complaining that other folk in another country do something differently, have different expectations, different laws and the like.

Next thing, you'll be complaining about why the British Isles are just off the coast of north west Europe and not on the eastern seaboard or something equally irrelevant...
 
lobosrul5 said:
Huh? How so. Assuming the bus is municipally owned. Something like a private coach could kick you off for saying the "n word".
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Yes. If you're on a county bus and you start yelling the N word, you can and should be forced to shut up or be removed.
 
Hercules56 said:
Yes. If you're a county bus and you start yelling the N word, you can and should be forced to shut up or be removed.
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So your saying you can be so disruptive on a bus, which is publicly owned, that you can be removed. But its OK to be as disruptive as you want on a public sidewalk, even if for example, its 5 feet from a residence?
 
Ziggurat said:
And in the UK, you can't even pray silently in that area. Adam Smith-Connor was not harassing anyone, he was not traumatizing anyone, he was not screaming anything at all. In fact, as far as I can tell, no one even complained about him.

But he was still arrested, tried, and convicted. Because you're not allowed to pray silently in certain places. Not even, it should be noted, on your own property, if it's within 150 meters of an abortion clinic.
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He was actually belligerent, refusing to comply with an officer that advised him of the law and he refused to comply for an hour and 40 minutes prior to arrest. And he wasn't praying silently 150 meters away; he was right outside the clinic, and had notified the city that it was a planned demonstration, intended to be seen by women going to the clinic, not a private matter in his backyard.
www.bbc.com

Praying man breached Bournemouth abortion clinic safe zone

The physiotherapist said he had been praying for his unborn son who died by abortion 22 years ago.
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lobosrul5 said:
So your saying you can be so disruptive on a bus, which is publicly owned, that you can be removed. But its OK to be as disruptive as you want on a public sidewalk, even if for example, its 5 feet from a residence?
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Within reason, yes.

You have to comply with sound rules.

You cant block people from using the sidewalk or going in and out of building.

Etc..
 
Thermal said:
He was actually belligerent, refusing to comply with an officer that advised him of the law and he refused to comply for an hour and 40 minutes. And he wasn't praying silently 150 meters away; he was right outside the clinic, and had notified the city that it was a planned demonstration, intended to be seen by women going to the clinic, not a private matter.
www.bbc.com

Praying man breached Bournemouth abortion clinic safe zone

The physiotherapist said he had been praying for his unborn son who died by abortion 22 years ago.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com
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Praying silently, on a sidewalk, as long as he doesn't disrupt traffic, should always be legal.
 
Hercules56 said:
Which as you know is not actually part of US law.

Regardless, do you think its fair that private business owners and employers have NO control over the speech of their employees and customers? I do not.

I dont think its right that in Britain I can walk into a store wearing a t-shirt that says "◊◊◊◊ yo mamma" and there is nothing the store owner can do about it.
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You don't seem have answered my question. Why do you think this is the case in the UK? (Hint: It isn't.)
 
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