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Worlds Largest Virus Party?

400,000 attendees, 200 cases in two weeks?

The country as a whole gets about 50,000 PER DAY.

I'll let somebody else do the math, but it looks to me that going to Sturgis might have been safer than staying home.
 
casebro said:
400,000 attendees, 200 cases in two weeks?

The country as a whole gets about 50,000 PER DAY.

I'll let somebody else do the math, but it looks to me that going to Sturgis might have been safer than staying home.
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About 50% of the national daily average, so far.
 
casebro said:
400,000 attendees, 200 cases in two weeks?

The country as a whole gets about 50,000 PER DAY.

I'll let somebody else do the math, but it looks to me that going to Sturgis might have been safer than staying home.
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What is it about, "But epidemiologists say the actual number is likely much higher. Limited contact-tracing ability in some states is artificially reducing the case numbers, they say," you don't understand?
 
dann said:
What is it about, "But epidemiologists say the actual number is likely much higher. Limited contact-tracing ability in some states is artificially reducing the case numbers, they say," you don't understand?
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If contract tracing is limited then the 50,000 number should also likely be much higher - in which case the comparison holds true; unless you think that the people who went to Sturgess all happen to live in those states where there is limited contact tracing.
 
Lplus said:
If contract tracing is limited then the 50,000 number should also likely be much higher - in which case the comparison holds true; unless you think that the people who went to Sturgess all happen to live in those states where there is limited contact tracing.
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There was also this, quoted in the same post: "Plus, there was a strong thread of disdain in the crowd for testing and other safety measures."[/I] You know, 'it's just the flu' and all that ...
 
dann said:
There was also this, quoted in the same post: "Plus, there was a strong thread of disdain in the crowd for testing and other safety measures."[/I] You know, 'it's just the flu' and all that ...
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But the same holds true for the general population. And all we want to compare is the rate of Covid, Sturgis vs the whole country. Sounds like you want to compare apples that have been examined under a microscope against oranges.
 
casebro said:
But the same holds true for the general population. And all we want to compare is the rate of Covid, Sturgis vs the whole country. Sounds like you want to compare apples that have been examined under a microscope against oranges.
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Incoherent, try again? Not "the same" as more people have been seeking tests, we can't measure "the rate" except by comparison of all the places the self-selected group scattered to, are you asking for omniscience or something possible given unwilling subjects?
 
casebro said:
But the same holds true for the general population. And all we want to compare is the rate of Covid, Sturgis vs the whole country. Sounds like you want to compare apples that have been examined under a microscope against oranges.
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here ya go, study is linked in the tweet by one of the authors:

We estimate that over 250,000 of the reported cases between August 2 and September 2 are due to the Sturgis Rally. Roughly 19 percent of the national cases during this timeframe.
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https://twitter.com/FriedsonAndrew/status/1302591878957862912

We conclude that the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally generated public health costs of approximately $12.2 billion.
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http://ftp.iza.org/dp13670.pdf
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
here ya go, study is linked in the tweet by one of the authors:



https://twitter.com/FriedsonAndrew/status/1302591878957862912



http://ftp.iza.org/dp13670.pdf
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I didn't see the CDC graph that shows a 250k spike. Did I miss it?

eta: hers is a link to one. https://covidtracking.com/data Scroll down to the pink graph. Gee, if any connection at all, Sturgis caused a drop in new cases. Nah, no connection. no 250K new cases, no $13B in costs.


Oh no, wait, pedantic writing- "250k new cases due to the rally"? Ok. but they are in place of the 250k new cases that would have happened from other causes, net increase due to Sturgis, 0.
 
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From another thread:

Captain_Swoop said:
Sturgis Motorcycle Rally Is Now Linked to More Than 250,000 Coronavirus Cases


The inevitable fallout from last month’s Sturgis Motorcycle Rally, an annual event that packed nearly 500,000 people into a small town in South Dakota, is becoming clear, and the emerging picture is grim.

According to a new study, which tracked anonymized cellphone data from the rally, over 250,000 coronavirus cases have now been tied to the 10-day event, one of the largest to be held since the start of the pandemic. It drew motorcycle enthusiasts from around the country, many of whom were seen without face coverings inside crowded bars, restaurants, and other indoor establishments.
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https://www.motherjones.com/coronav...linked-to-more-than-250000-coronavirus-cases/


Called it, cheap Harleys in the autumn.
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OT: I wonder if we can now use the number of cellphones at an event to count the attendance? Rallys, marches, demonstrations, inaugurations?
 
casebro said:
OT: I wonder if we can now use the number of cellphones at an event to count the attendance? Rallys, marches, demonstrations, inaugurations?
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That was tried, but the implants from the "flu vaccine" were found to be more reliable.
 
casebro said:
I didn't see the CDC graph that shows a 250k spike. Did I miss it?

eta: hers is a link to one. https://covidtracking.com/data Scroll down to the pink graph. Gee, if any connection at all, Sturgis caused a drop in new cases. Nah, no connection. no 250K new cases, no $13B in costs.


Oh no, wait, pedantic writing- "250k new cases due to the rally"? Ok. but they are in place of the 250k new cases that would have happened from other causes, net increase due to Sturgis, 0.
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How exactly am I supposed to understand this post of yours?

Is it:

"Covid is a complete Hoax" ?

or

"Covid exists but is far less dangerous than everyone tries to make it" ?

or something else?

What is the purpose of a post like this? Do you deny that this disease is contagious and that a 10 day event would benefit the spread of this disease?
 
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RedStapler said:
Do you deny that this disease is contagious and that a 10 day event would benefit the spread of this disease?
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That really neat webcomic someone linked here months ago that I can't find again, showing Trump ripping his shirt off to fight the virus, should now put the virus on a motorcycle.
 
RedStapler said:
How exactly am I supposed to understand this post of yours?

Is it:

"Covid is a complete Hoax" ?

or

"Covid exists but is far less dangerous than everyone tries to make it" ?

or something else?

What is the purpose of a post like this? Do you deny that this disease is contagious and that a 10 day event would benefit the spread of this disease?
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Read for literal comprehension instead of putting words in my mouth.

I merely pointed out that the gross statistics do not show 250,000 cases in excess of the curve. In fact the curve keeps sloping downward into September.
 
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