Wisconsin Voter ID

WildCat said:
You might call them lazy, stupid, or apathetic... but Democrats call them their base.
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That's nice. Can we replace "Democrats" with "Republicans" and "lazy, stupid, or apathetic" with "greedy, racist, misogynistic, homophobic, conspiratorial, xenophobic, sanctimonious, war-mongering, or sociopathic"?
 
maxpower1227 said:
That's nice. Can we replace "Democrats" with "Republicans" and "lazy, stupid, or apathetic" with "greedy, racist, misogynistic, homophobic, conspiratorial, xenophobic, sanctimonious, war-mongering, or sociopathic"?
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Why are you asking for permission? Don't you already do that?
 
maxpower1227 said:
That's nice. Can we replace "Democrats" with "Republicans" and "lazy, stupid, or apathetic" with "greedy, racist, misogynistic, homophobic, conspiratorial, xenophobic, sanctimonious, war-mongering, or sociopathic"?
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No. Since the Democratic base was described with only 3 words, you must also limit your description to 3 words. Please choose.
 
jhunter1163 said:
I don't get the fuss over this. It's not that hard to get a photo ID. It's just not. Connecticut has voter ID; I have to show my driver's license to vote. So flippin' what?
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Same here.

Is there widespread voter fraud to warrant this? Probably not. But like you, I just can't get worked up about it. I (used to) have to show my ID to the bartender. So what's the big deal about showing it to the poll worker?
 
The Central Scrutinizer said:
Maybe that's why it's so hard for them to get a free ID.
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What is free about a free ID? A person needs a birth certificate, which costs money. They also need transportation, which costs money. Also, they need to take time off of work, which costs money.

Voter ID laws are only about suppressing and discouraging people from voting. This has been admitted by Republican politicians.
 
thaiboxerken said:
What is free about a free ID? A person needs a birth certificate, which costs money. They also need transportation, which costs money. Also, they need to take time off of work, which costs money.

Voter ID laws are only about suppressing and discouraging people from voting. This has been admitted by Republican politicians.
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The only people it discourages are the lazy, the stupid, and the apathetic.

And that's funny about people with no ID having to take off of work, as if such people work! At least not legally... and if they can't work legally they really shouldn't be voting, should they?
 
WildCat said:
The only people it discourages are the lazy, the stupid, and the apathetic.

And that's funny about people with no ID having to take off of work, as if such people work! At least not legally... and if they can't work legally they really shouldn't be voting, should they?
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It should not discourage anyone. Is it your assertion that lazy citizens shouldn't have the right to vote?
 
jhunter1163 said:
I don't get the fuss over this. It's not that hard to get a photo ID. It's just not. Connecticut has voter ID; I have to show my driver's license to vote. So flippin' what?
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Connecticut doesn't require photo ID at the voting booth. You don't have to show your driver's license.

The big deal is that these laws are transparently designed to supress the votes of political rivals, and especially by supressing the votes of racial minorities known to favor the "wrong" party or candidate. That's just not something that should be tolerated in a democracy, for essentially the same reasons that a poll tax or a literacy test shouldn't be tolerated.

Anyway, it would be a mistake to take the refusal to hear this case as settling the matter--the case to watch is the one in Texas, which is currently pending in the federal courts.
 
It's a law that doesn't actually address any real issue.

It's purpose is to make it more difficult - if only by degrees - to vote.

That politicians spend their time drafting and passing legislation to reduce voter turnout should bother people.
 
thaiboxerken said:
What is free about a free ID? A person needs a birth certificate, which costs money.
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Actually, they give you one for free when you're born.

thaiboxerken said:
They also need transportation, which costs money.
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How do they ever manage to get to the grocery store? Or the dentist? How about work?

thaiboxerken said:
Also, they need to take time off of work, which costs money.
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I'm glad to hear they're working 24/7/365!

thaiboxerken said:
Voter ID laws are only about suppressing and discouraging people from voting. This has been admitted by Republican politicians.
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The thing I can't figure out, is how does someone reach the age of 18 without a birth certificate or a drivers license (or other state ID)? When I turned 18, I had all those things. It really wasn't hard to get them.
 
mumblethrax said:
The big deal is that these laws are transparently designed to supress the votes of political rivals, and especially by supressing the votes of racial minorities known to favor the "wrong" party or candidate.
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I've yet to have anyone explain to me how these laws only affect black people? Are whites fully employed millionaires? There are no poor, unemployed white people?
 
thaiboxerken said:
Tell me about the lazy, apathetic, and stupid people you think should NOT be voting.
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It's not that I think they shouldn't be voting, but they don't think they should be voting or they'd take a few minutes away from their crazy busy 24/7/365 with not one hour to spare lives to get an ID so they could vote.

Now tell me about the kind of people who work but don't have an ID yet should be voting. I've yet to encounter an employer, even working for minimum wage as a 16 year old, who didn't require an ID and a Social Security number. I can only think of one class of people who work and don't have those things, and they aren't eligible to vote. How do they even cash a paycheck without an ID?
 
The Central Scrutinizer said:
I've yet to have anyone explain to me how these laws only affect black people? Are whites fully employed millionaires? There are no poor, unemployed white people?
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According to the progressives, whites are smart enough to get ID in order to vote. Apparently they still believe that blacks are too stupid to do so. After all, if blacks were intelligent, they wouldn't need progressives to run their lives for them. :confused:

I've never understood the contempt that Democrats hold one of their most important voting blocks in. I'd be as if Republicans thought that all small business owners were complete idiots.
 
cmikes said:
I've never understood the contempt that Democrats hold one of their most important voting blocks in.
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You don't understand. Those blacks are better off on the plantation in the projects.

I'd be as if Republicans thought that all small business owners were complete idiots.
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Well, now that you mention it... :D
 
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