Wisconsin Voter ID

The Central Scrutinizer said:
I've yet to have anyone explain to me how these laws only affect black people? Are whites fully employed millionaires? There are no poor, unemployed white people?
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I've yet to have anyone say they only affect black people, so I think this is just a straw man.

They disproportionately affect minorities, and not just black people.

People lack imagination. If you have a license, your friend has a license, your sister has a license, and your co-worker has a license...what's the problem? The problem is that lots of people don't have licenses, have difficulty acquiring a license, and (for the most part) those people aren't in your network, so you don't care about them.
 
mumblethrax said:
Connecticut doesn't require photo ID at the voting booth. You don't have to show your driver's license.

The big deal is that these laws are transparently designed to supress the votes of political rivals, and especially by supressing the votes of racial minorities known to favor the "wrong" party or candidate. That's just not something that should be tolerated in a democracy, for essentially the same reasons that a poll tax or a literacy test shouldn't be tolerated.

Anyway, it would be a mistake to take the refusal to hear this case as settling the matter--the case to watch is the one in Texas, which is currently pending in the federal courts.
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We had a primary election here last month, and I was, indeed, asked for my ID. Not that it was a big deal.
 
jhunter1163 said:
We had a primary election here last month, and I was, indeed, asked for my ID. Not that it was a big deal.
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That's a different claim than the one you just made.

The whole of the debate occurs in the space that you're glossing over here.
 
There would be no problem arguing for voter ID, if voter fraud were real. I just wish the proponents of this thing would man up like this guy did.

 
The Central Scrutinizer said:
Actually, they give you one for free when you're born.



How do they ever manage to get to the grocery store? Or the dentist? How about work?



I'm glad to hear they're working 24/7/365!



The thing I can't figure out, is how does someone reach the age of 18 without a birth certificate or a drivers license (or other state ID)? When I turned 18, I had all those things. It really wasn't hard to get them.
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Let me guess. You were born into a middle class family.
 
WildCat said:
It's not that I think they shouldn't be voting, but they don't think they should be voting or they'd take a few minutes away from their crazy busy 24/7/365 with not one hour to spare lives to get an ID so they could vote.

Now tell me about the kind of people who work but don't have an ID yet should be voting. I've yet to encounter an employer, even working for minimum wage as a 16 year old, who didn't require an ID and a Social Security number. I can only think of one class of people who work and don't have those things, and they aren't eligible to vote. How do they even cash a paycheck without an ID?
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I believe that even the laziest, most apathetic and stupid people should be allowed to vote.
 
Show us the vote fraud.

ETA: I should modify this. Show us examples of the vote fraud (widespread or otherwise) which will be prevented by the ID requirement.
 
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Oh? Surely the lawmakers had a massive amount of evidence of voter fraud in Wisconsin and other huge numbers country wide.;)

There are cases of fraud at the voter machine and ballot counting level, but very rare cases of persons caught voting twice. Maybe the thousands who do so are just too clever to get caught?:rolleyes:
 
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mumblethrax said:
People lack imagination. If you have a license, your friend has a license, your sister has a license, and your co-worker has a license...what's the problem? The problem is that lots of people don't have licenses, have difficulty acquiring a license, and (for the most part) those people aren't in your network, so you don't care about them.
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There's no requirement that the ID be a license.
 
Olowkow said:
Show us the vote fraud.

ETA: I should modify this. Show us examples of the vote fraud (widespread or otherwise) which will be prevented by the ID requirement.
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There's no way to tell how many ineligible people are voting, because there's no ID requirement.

thaiboxerken says there's lots of people voting who work and don't have IDs, if true that's kind of a red flag don't you think?
 
thaiboxerken said:
Okay conservatives, what are voter id laws about? If it's fraud, present your car.
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You already did that, you said there's people who work but don't have an ID and can't get one.

I'm having a hard time believing those people are eligible to vote.
 
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